Message from @devpav

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2019-11-07 03:38:48 UTC  

Oh you didnt watch it slide into shit?

2019-11-07 03:38:52 UTC  

I can't even be an evangelical because they're such crazy hard-core Zionists.

2019-11-07 03:39:03 UTC  

Was always Libertarian until I realized I hate most Libertarians. "Muh roads. Muh Open Borders." Fucking retards.

2019-11-07 03:39:18 UTC  

@Chet Nick y u BoOlIN mEH

2019-11-07 03:39:32 UTC  

Yeah, I used to like Caplan, but I can't accept a libertarian reason for open borders.

2019-11-07 03:39:38 UTC  

You leave muh roads out of this you monster!

2019-11-07 03:39:55 UTC  

I was watching it slide into the shitpile for years before Trump showed up

2019-11-07 03:39:59 UTC  

Open Borders is a rejection of property rights.

2019-11-07 03:40:13 UTC  

Also the Open Borders argument makes more sense once you have the system in question

2019-11-07 03:40:27 UTC  

Because then people who own land determine who crosses it, and there's no gibs

2019-11-07 03:40:44 UTC  

It doesnt make *any* sense **now**

2019-11-07 03:41:14 UTC  

I was more or less libertarian until my Trump-inspired turn toward protectionism in 2015.

2019-11-07 03:41:17 UTC  

It's also silly to suggest that libertarian must = open borders, since border protection is a base value of the state

2019-11-07 03:41:38 UTC  

If you don't have borders, you don't have a nation.

2019-11-07 03:41:42 UTC  

open borders benefit corportations.

2019-11-07 03:41:48 UTC  

corporations*

2019-11-07 03:42:03 UTC  

that's a coming from the left opinion

2019-11-07 03:42:09 UTC  

If you rely on individual property owners to "do the right thing", ditto.

2019-11-07 03:42:15 UTC  

but I think it's a good sell point for the other side

2019-11-07 03:42:20 UTC  

Oh open borders as a lefty position is so hilariously contradictory

2019-11-07 03:43:04 UTC  

Open borders is globalism is a lefty position.

2019-11-07 03:43:06 UTC  

endless cheap labor, no need to make building a family affordable in any regard here

2019-11-07 03:43:09 UTC  

just import more people

2019-11-07 03:43:09 UTC  

>per capita emissions in the west are high
>automation and labour flooding hurt the poor
>let's let more people in

2019-11-07 03:43:30 UTC  

It's contradictory

2019-11-07 03:43:43 UTC  

If you believe in economic growth above those things that makes more sense

2019-11-07 03:44:05 UTC  

the smarter leftist point would probably be something like emissions are outsourced to china

2019-11-07 03:44:09 UTC  

But I will never understand people afraid of automation, worried about the poor and the environment, who are for increasing the immigration rate

2019-11-07 03:44:09 UTC  

Vox Day is right about the mobility of labor nullifying MOST of the Austrian School of Economics' theories.

2019-11-07 03:44:16 UTC  

That makes it worse though

2019-11-07 03:44:55 UTC  

Automation or Mobility of Labor?

2019-11-07 03:45:00 UTC  

If outsourcing labour offsets the per capita emissions and the emissions are still high per capita

2019-11-07 03:45:33 UTC  

Then you absolutely should be critical of immigration, no?

2019-11-07 03:45:38 UTC  

chet, what is vox day?

2019-11-07 03:45:57 UTC  

Really?

2019-11-07 03:46:01 UTC  

haha, really

2019-11-07 03:46:07 UTC  

Also I dont know that I agree with that assessment, Chet

2019-11-07 03:46:29 UTC  

He's a Christian Nationalist writer and Vlogger. @clubfrills

2019-11-07 03:46:37 UTC  

I think it makes some goofy assumptions about the current market

2019-11-07 03:46:40 UTC  

sold, will look into it

2019-11-07 03:46:54 UTC  

not that I will agree, but I enjoy it