Reminder that civic and social engagement were on the rise until the 60s

Which is when America was getting KGB'd hard

define KGB'd hard -- I read a book on the history of the FBI which was pretty gnarly once

but I'm not sure what you're getting at

My father's family co-founded a town in Massachusetts; what does it look like today? Fucking Dunkin Donuts on every corner, and houses from the 70's that I can't afford to live in.

Deliberate hardcore subversion on all fronts

okay haha

KGB operative defected to Canada and spilled the beans decades ago but we still havent done proper cleanup

well if you go full tin-foil, most pop culture from 60s to 80's was CIA-backed

That's true; they did that everywhere.

Was that Bezmenov, Beemann, or someone else? I'd like to look into that

without going into the weeds, you can find a CIA connection with LOTS of rock bands

Yeah it was Bezmenov

Ahhh gotcha

I need to re-watch that interview again

Bezmenov's words have come true

yep

@Beemann I'd like to read about that, the canada defect

that sounds very interesting

Look what we know the CIA and KGB did in the Middle East and South America in the 50's-80's, and the idea that all the social movements that happened in America are organic or accidental seems positively naïve.

Yuri Bezmenov. He did interviews

Yuri Bezmenov was based.

There's like an hour long one on YT

Where he just goes over fucking everything. It's nuts

anything that happens abroad likely happens here in some capacity

Read his pamphlets, too! Archive.org

deffo

I didn't know he'd written anything

Also Cleon Skousen's Naked Communist; explains all that's going on, written in 1962.

going to be forward -- i'm straight dissident right and love BAP, moldbug, landry, and practically anything over on that end. But I came from far left years ago.

so take anything I say with a grain of salt

thanks y'all

I enjoy matt, tim pool, and other content creators as a way to ground myself a bit, but i'm generally not very grounded

I knew this was messed up ever since I found out that the 60s feminists were literally making "the destruction of the family" one of their chants

Programming is your parent's fault; you're not guilty for having been asleep, just for chosing not to get up when you awoke.

I was actually fairly left when I was younger, too, but that's a story I don't have time for today haha

ah my parents were conservative as fuck, and I reacted by going far left

Ha!

"Not very grounded"
Core values?

it started with some even further left friends telling me to get out of my tower of white privilege years ago, found the usual suspects like Rubin, went into the rabbit hole of alt right shit, and i'm floating around that and centrism

core values? I'm mostly concerned with the same things most people are here I think.