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2017-03-23 01:39:55 UTC

oh, so likke you're skirting around the goverment and making exchanges with currency they can't tax you on is that it?

2017-03-23 01:39:55 UTC

Even if t were supposedly backed by gold it isn't you'd be better off getting physical gold

2017-03-23 01:40:02 UTC

No

2017-03-23 01:40:05 UTC

no it's taxed

2017-03-23 01:40:07 UTC

the fuckers

2017-03-23 01:40:10 UTC

It's taxed

2017-03-23 01:40:14 UTC

aw shit

2017-03-23 01:40:17 UTC

it's taxed like stocks

2017-03-23 01:40:33 UTC

There ARE people who do illegal shit but it's gotten a lot harder

2017-03-23 01:40:45 UTC

to do the illegal shit or catch them

2017-03-23 01:40:49 UTC

It's harder to get money OUT in large amounts

2017-03-23 01:40:53 UTC

yeah. you can be anonymous when using it, but it takes work.

2017-03-23 01:40:56 UTC

To do it

2017-03-23 01:41:01 UTC

right like a vpn and stuff right

2017-03-23 01:41:14 UTC

Yeah you gotta use tails, multiple vpns, tor

2017-03-23 01:41:18 UTC

it's essentially an interesting experiment in economic theory

2017-03-23 01:41:24 UTC

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2017-03-23 01:41:26 UTC

crap I don't know what tails are

2017-03-23 01:41:33 UTC

oh my god @Buddy Hobbs not here

2017-03-23 01:41:38 UTC

DNS masking, I would say that tot is definitely co@promised

2017-03-23 01:41:47 UTC

Tor*

2017-03-23 01:41:50 UTC

only use an address for one transaction

2017-03-23 01:41:53 UTC

I know Tor

2017-03-23 01:41:57 UTC

and vpns

2017-03-23 01:42:17 UTC

yeah Tor is compromised and the government would rather let a pedo go than tell us how they did it.

2017-03-23 01:42:17 UTC

why's Tor compromised?

2017-03-23 01:42:22 UTC

TAILS is a live image OS that runs completely without record

2017-03-23 01:42:31 UTC

Well it was built by the govt

2017-03-23 01:42:38 UTC

TAILS is dope. never played with it but it looks interesting.

2017-03-23 01:42:38 UTC

For military use

2017-03-23 01:42:38 UTC

Tor was or Tails was?

2017-03-23 01:42:44 UTC

Tor

2017-03-23 01:42:45 UTC

TOr

2017-03-23 01:42:46 UTC

ah

2017-03-23 01:42:50 UTC

Tails is safe

2017-03-23 01:42:52 UTC

so basically don't use it

2017-03-23 01:42:54 UTC

use Tails

2017-03-23 01:43:08 UTC

Nah u gotta use both

2017-03-23 01:43:13 UTC

it's still okay to use if you want to stay anonymous from ad trackers and shit like that.

2017-03-23 01:43:25 UTC

Just gotta make sure the exit nodes on tor are safe

2017-03-23 01:43:26 UTC

But looking at WikiLeaks is illegal. It's different for media though.

2017-03-23 01:43:32 UTC

just maybe not for dodging state sponsored surveillance

2017-03-23 01:43:34 UTC

Always use pgp

2017-03-23 01:43:40 UTC

Yeah exactly

2017-03-23 01:43:55 UTC

you used keybase at all?

2017-03-23 01:44:07 UTC

Also make sure your vpns are safe not DNS leaking

2017-03-23 01:44:14 UTC

and not logging.

2017-03-23 01:44:19 UTC

don't use a VPN in the states.

2017-03-23 01:44:36 UTC

What about canada

2017-03-23 01:44:40 UTC

correction. don't use a VPN based in the states and don't use servers based in the states.

2017-03-23 01:44:40 UTC

Yeah keybase is good

2017-03-23 01:44:53 UTC

I wouldn't use Canada unless for piracy

2017-03-23 01:44:55 UTC

Lol

2017-03-23 01:45:00 UTC

I use Iceland

2017-03-23 01:45:04 UTC

And Switzerland

2017-03-23 01:45:05 UTC

keybase is sweet. they need to work on the speed of their stuff though. can get bogged down sometimes.

2017-03-23 01:45:15 UTC

as in actually going there to do your pirating?

2017-03-23 01:45:16 UTC

i think hong kong is okay too.

2017-03-23 01:45:18 UTC

And some Eastern European non EU nations

2017-03-23 01:45:32 UTC

yeah. sends the request to that server and then that server sends the request on your behalf

2017-03-23 01:45:48 UTC

Russia is good so is belarus

2017-03-23 01:45:51 UTC

so the place you're getting the otrrent from only sees the VPN server, not you.

2017-03-23 01:46:08 UTC

I run a bunch of connections chained thru each other

2017-03-23 01:46:19 UTC

oh okay so you mean don't have your vpn hosted in the US have it hosted in one of those other places

2017-03-23 01:46:38 UTC

i have heard that isn't as effective as you would think though. i read somewhere multiple connections aren't any more effective than just using one.

2017-03-23 01:46:48 UTC

although i believe everything i read on the internet.

2017-03-23 01:46:52 UTC

I ssh into my main box that is in Switzerland

2017-03-23 01:47:06 UTC

@Gerry yes

2017-03-23 01:47:12 UTC

Which has a dedicated Ip and I use ssh keys to log in

2017-03-23 01:47:30 UTC

Then I use that to log into any number of additional ones

2017-03-23 01:47:54 UTC

Then my Icelandic one which has arguably the best data protection laws anywhere

2017-03-23 01:49:33 UTC

hows ssh'ing into a server and requesting from there any different than proxying a request through a VPN in Switerland.

2017-03-23 01:49:42 UTC

Well

2017-03-23 01:49:54 UTC

Firstly it keeps my Icelandic box super safe

2017-03-23 01:50:17 UTC

Am I next?

2017-03-23 01:50:26 UTC

Set rules on the sshd daemon to only allow connections from my home static Ip and my Swiss Ip

2017-03-23 01:51:11 UTC

@Picassoใƒ„ I would hazard a guess that no you are not, I could be wrong.

2017-03-23 01:51:33 UTC

Then the Icelandic one i installed a hyoervisor and use it as a virtual machine; which has the benefit of acting as a remote PC that I then plug in my thumb drive with TAILS on it and use it that way

2017-03-23 01:51:37 UTC

If that makes sense

2017-03-23 01:52:14 UTC

But yeah I take a lot of measures. I only use cold storage for my btc wallets. Single use wallets

2017-03-23 01:52:14 UTC

well i agree that it's much more secure to do things that way, but does it improve anonymity?

2017-03-23 01:52:26 UTC

paper wallets?

2017-03-23 01:52:39 UTC

Yup

2017-03-23 01:52:45 UTC

damn that's hardcore.

2017-03-23 01:52:58 UTC

you write that shit down, right? can't trust the printers!

2017-03-23 01:53:00 UTC

Well I tend not to but BtC anymore really

2017-03-23 01:53:04 UTC

Yup

2017-03-23 01:53:09 UTC

No printers

2017-03-23 01:53:34 UTC

Mad tinfoil hattery up in here but it's legit af

2017-03-23 01:53:35 UTC

yeah i don't have enough in ethereum for it to be worthwhile but in the future i'm gonna have to figure out better ways to store my ether.

2017-03-23 01:53:52 UTC

it may be tinfoil, but at least it's safe.

2017-03-23 01:54:08 UTC

plus that's alot of money i'm assuming you have if you got in that early

2017-03-23 01:54:26 UTC

I've just come to terms that I'm being tracked. It sounds hard to be anonymous

2017-03-23 01:54:41 UTC

Either that or I type up a plaintext file with the info and then encrypt the file and put it into an encrypted volume on an SD card

2017-03-23 01:54:48 UTC

Yeah I was lucky to get in early

2017-03-23 01:55:13 UTC

Was tempted to sell when btc got to 300, now it's over 11-1200

2017-03-23 01:55:30 UTC

Estimated to go up to 10k eventually wouldn't be surprised if it does

2017-03-23 01:55:32 UTC

i'd probably go that way. i'd be afraid i'd write the wrong address down. one character wrong.

2017-03-23 01:55:38 UTC

damn. that high?!

2017-03-23 01:55:45 UTC

yeah. better hold onto that.

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