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Ffs

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I am pretty laggy as well

@Deleted User nah i don't care about time period

no????

It usually takes some time with a counselor to have a diagnosis. which can stall a timeframe of getting HRT

it's a diagnosis

I mean I guess that might take time

but like

????

acab. All communists are bastards

i'm not saying take 4 months then diagnose

it's however quick the diagnosis occurs

and yes it should be a diagnosis

then it's probably higher risk for you to take the meds than not

Ong

for the bad effects of hrt

In talking about I'd you don't have GD

basically going through transition twice

You fucking Morin

yes, people shouldn't get drugs if they just want them

assuming they cause some harm

wait do you disagree

???

literally what do you think I'm saying

wait

so on the flip side

do you want kids to be damaged by going through a transition that they will then detransition, that that is ok?

It's true, we shouldn't allow people to sell heroin to five year olds

booooooo

??????????

In talking about kids

I'm talking about 14+

@Deleted User do you agree with this flowchart

I'm not talking about kids

You retard

who?

adults?

Yes

oh yeah sure they can take it

He did say 18+

wait did you

I missed that

nah this is kids

detransition rates are low for adults

Probably more like 16+

mmmm

grayer zone

that's not true, hormone blockers

... but they should be able to cuz it's free

I'd still say like

they should get some approval from a doctor to take it

but that's easy

Informed consent

Jack ass

Well, that's probably a tenet of transmedicalism...
they want to have some sort of rapport with a counselor/therapist at an early age... hormone blockers, a diagnosis, etc

yes

thats' literally

not

transmedicalist

```Transmedicalism is a term for a wide range of beliefs in the transgender community that are critical of transgender people who haven't medically transitioned and/or don't experience major dysphoria. Many transmedicalists (or "transmeds" for short) focus on gatekeeping.

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trans people who don't transition are still valid!

just as valid!

sorry, gonna eat lunch

lmfao

I don't think they say non transitions are invalid...
They just not trans

@Deleted User the ONLY claims I will make are that [1] hrt should require GD diag and [2] srs should require GD diag

Okay that's false

Niether should require it

???

but then you risk unnecessary treatment

a waste of resources

Why should hrt require a GD diagnosis

5:14 PM] acb: ???
[5:14 PM] acb: but then you risk unnecessary treatment
[5:14 PM] acb: a waste of resources

I don't think all unecessary things are waste

If you think this then stop playing video games

we should set a higher standardfor medicine than for playtime

b/c it has longer and larger consequences

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Yeah you can fuck off

I don't think physiological preferences are comparable to "play time"

I ate fast and you two were gone <:pepehands:644890202304937994>

```2:13 PM] acb: trans people who don't transition are still valid!
[2:13 PM] acb: just as valid!```
Of course... but I still don't see how believing the above makes **one not a transmedicalist**

Unless you're like... an exclusionary or **trans only, transmedicalist** which seems like a particularly rare position

We canf allbe soulless robots with No physiological préférences

Which is why I'm not really concerned with the label of being a transmed...

I mean... there's not much reason to be upset, if you're taking this personally...
It's because you feel personally you could not have had access to a counselor to build the rapport or be in the system long enough to get a diagnosis?
But this is why socialism/free healthcare is actually so vital

If we had had free health care, people could have been diagnosed earlier for hormone blockers

And that paves the way for more controlled/secure transitions

I already have one

Has nothing to do with me personally

I'm just disgusted by the view

https://open.spotify.com/track/1kxeWHF9PrCVZHvVskv8lg?si=jKIP9nbjTwS425E4Chj56A

why is that?

.

anyone wanna play showdown

Because I think it's immoral

It's immoral to try to filter out some people from transitioning when they may not need it and could possibly change their mind?
If anything this just seems like appealing to expert opinion...

Which might be paternalistic but