You know, this really only reinforces that ancaps are irredeemably shit people

I'm not an ancap

Not me neither

@Silverfang no it doesnt because I dont owe you or anyone shit for being alive

You sure like their beliefs though

>ancap

Oof bud

Nationalist libertarian

> You know, this really only reinforces that ancaps are irredeemably shit people
@Silverfang

Resorting to personal insults and assumptions.
You've lost.

Society doesn't owe anyone anything just cause they're alive

Also not an ancap.

Constitutional capitalist here

I take care of my grandparents because I am generous and I can, not because I have to

No bro, y'all ust have no arguments worth refuting at this point, you've literally said that people are worthless

Right because the druggie in the corner stoned out of his mind is worth as much as me that works every day.

Hard pass.

They are until they prove otherwise

Generosity and compassion is actually effective, government/societal forced care is not and never has been

Believing that people are inherently worthless beyond their ability to operate as machines is the worst take in history and I'm not surprised it takes an entire server of hard right conservatives to even begin to argue against a single socialist

I'm not hard right

i dont think any of us are hard right

Yeah you are buddy, if you believe this you're a conservative

i think most of us are dead center

@Silverfang work value is 0 until proven otherwise

Human life is precious though. These are seperate things

Only if you think american republicans are "center"

It’s never your successful friends that post communist quotes

^^^^^^^^

truth

I'm actually fairly left in terms of social issues. I just do not believe it is the government or societies place to tell me or anyone else what we are worth or where I have to dedicate my time, money, and care

> Believing that people are inherently worthless beyond their ability to operate as machines is the worst take in history and I'm not surprised it takes an entire server of hard right conservatives to even begin to argue against a single socialist
@Silverfang

People are inherently worthless if they don't advance and grow as a person.

I mean, I can literally direct you to a millionaire who makes youtube videos in support of communism if you want

Not even socialism, straight up communism

youtuber

literally generates currency off people watching and listening

No, he makes youtube videos, he is not a youtuber

or gains donations from them

If you don't work

You deserve nothing

thats not working

^

Yes and I can direct you to broke people who support capitalism

@Silverfang he is a capitalist then and is in denial.

A communist profiting off capitalist invention isnt new

Such as @VI/K/INGinnaTRENCH/K/OAT

> @Silverfang he is a capitalist then and is in denial.
>
> A communist profiting off capitalist invention isnt new
@mcguyver123

In fact it's what they all do

Capitalists profit off communism, what do you call the corporate bailouts?

@Silverfang communism. And I dont support it

America is a socialist lite country.

That's you, paying the corporations for making bad decisions in the name of profit

Holy fuck

And it should be cleansed of that commie shit

I dont agree with it.

It's communism for the rich and capitalism for everyone else

Communists should be sent to work houses since they're property of the state.

And paid the smallest amount possible

Oh wait that's already what Korea, China and Vietnam do

@Silverfang sounds like the system needs to be free market again. The free for all the market provides allows for natural EB and flow of not only economics, but progress in innovation and makes the entire society richer over time.

This^

So that the capitalists can p[profit off the people again\

You know you don't need to @ me literally every time

I'm right here

No so that there are more dead communists. Duh.

Shouting doesn't help you

@Silverfang its because theres several people here silver

silver stop trying to act holier than thou

YELLING IN TEXT IS ALL CAP(it a list rule)S

^

I don't have to when you all keep digging deeper into the hole of "How terrible a person can I be"

Oh cool lemme dig deeper

wait wait wait

I'm a Constitutional Fascist lmfao

silver where you from?

Get yeeted

@Silverfang if I'm terrible because I dont believe you're. Ot entitled to a portion of my check then I guess I'm shit

And I'm the only person you're arguing against because if I wasn't here this would be yet another alt right echo chamber

$10 says usa

nah

thats too ez

ima say hes from Aussie

Australia

Easy to be a communist in a 1st world country.

@Silverfang. "Alt right"

Check under your bed for boogie men

How's that going for Venezuala lmfao

"Alt right echo chamber"

As if me and half the other people in this server to lock horns almost weekly

👆

You should be asking how it's going for Vietnam since it's not a dictatorship

Jesus, I'll add to that too. If everyone you disagree with is alt right, no one is. Just like how leftist like calling everyone racist. If everyone is, no one is

Hell the ADMINS lock horns almost weekly lmao

LMFAO

Vietnam adopted fucking Capitolism after the war and look at the country now... ITS BOOMING

Just like Korea isn't a dictatorship? Or Russia?

Or China

Fuck China

@Silverfang vietnam is like China. Theyve allowed for some capitalist aspects. Vietnam's got a booming tourist industry. Or atleast it did in the 80s and 90s

Russia is capitalist at the moment and have been a dictatorship sine lenin died

China is adopting more capitalist ideology and its fucking the world

"Yee we have voting, but if you vote for anyone but the main party you get dissapeared"

Lenin was a dictator, or would have been

"We'll attach Democratic Republic to our name and make everything okay"

"Yall are digging a hole "

Except weve refuted you that all your anti points to capitalism are products of government intervention.

^

Lenininism is very similar to Stalinism

@Foxhound "everyone can vote because we are all equal. Even those not invested and are only here for gibs"

^

"Lenin wasn't a dictator"

Cept he murdered his way into power and then more to maintain it

> "We'll attach Democratic Republic to our name and make everything okay"
@Foxhound You say this but before we moved here someone in general tried to say that the Nazis were socialists

@Foxhound "murder"

No no, the commies call that self defense.

What part of

Nationalist Socialist Workers Party

Did you

Fucking

Miss

Are you being serious right now

I mean you're a communist, you're a cog in the machine and thus, your opinion is irrelevant

The nazis had socialist aspects during their Reich @Silverfang

Gibs me dat economics sucks

No, for real, are you trolling?

Your ideals are directly responsible for the murder of 100 Million people

@Silverfang tell me how I'm wrong

Cause you havent

But you have the guys to come tell me we're wrong, and to shit on the server

*guts

Starvation or the ability to make my own company and work for a living

I'll chose life lmfao

Because you just said "The DPRK use democratic republic to pretend the they're not a dictatorship" and then said "The Nazi name needs to be taken at face value"

Oof way to put words in my mouth

> The nazis had socialist aspects during their Reich @Silverfang
@mcguyver123

No I didn't

And no it didn't

They killed all the socialists during the night of the long knives

The name was literally "Nationalist socialist workers party"

They had socialist policies left and right

Do you not actually know anything about the Nazi party

fang has a point

> They killed all the socialists during the night of the long knives
@Silverfang

The night of the long knives was killing the brown shirts.

I know quite a bit about the NSDAP

And the name of the north koreans is the DEMOCRATIC PEOPLE"S REPUBLIC OF KOREA

Are they democratic

Which were Mr. Hitluhs original supporters.

Are they a republic

Well?

is North korea a democratic republic?

No

Yeah they are represented by a midget asshole

@Foxhound Is North Korea a democratic republic?

> "We'll attach Democratic Republic to our name and make everything okay"
@Foxhound

Exact wording I used

I never said they were a democracy

But all you're doing is exactly what you Accused us of. Making this an echo chamber

I know you didn't, but it's in their name

They say they're a democratic republic

Since you failed to refute any of @mcguyver123 points.

The nazis said they were socialists

Brub

You're literally circling

Is North Korea a democratic Republic?

They allow their citizens to vote

Your all part of the democratic Republic of deeze nuts

And you all gay

But people are forced to vote for their tubby lil dictator

@Trash Squid yes papa squib

@Foxhound dead little dictator

So you're saying that even though they have no choice, and there's only one party, and they have an actual dictator in charge, they're a democratic republic.

So is the only thing that matters is what they call themselves?

I want to be clear here, I want it in your words

> @Foxhound dead little dictator
@Trash Squid

Wasn't he sighted today?

Commies apparently can't read

Since I said

*again*

> @Foxhound
@Foxhound

@Foxhound was he? I haven't been on the internet today, went on a 4 mile run through swamps and the forest

"We'll attach Democratic Republic to our name and make everything okay"

Been crawling through mud and bryers all day

> @Foxhound was he? I haven't been on the internet today, went on a 4 mile run through swamps and the forest
@Trash Squid

Supposedly

Well damn

Wonder if its true

Might be

Might not be

So then the Nazi's using socialist in their name to gain the votes and approval of the working class before literally killing all the socialists in the party means that the nazis are obviously definitely socialists

Hard to tell with communists and dictators what's the truth and what's the lie

And they weren't doing the same thing literally every right wing dictatorial power ever has done before and after

> So then the Nazi's using socialist in their name to gain the votes and approval of the working class before literally killing all the socialists in the party means that the nazis are obviously definitely socialists
@Silverfang

I love that you're focused on this so much, yet failed to refute any other argument offered.

Just like communism is a *failed experiment*

That's because I need to know how deep your cognitive dissonance goes

And McGuyver has nothing of value worth refuting anyway

> And they weren't doing the same thing literally every right wing dictatorial power ever has done before and after
@Silverfang

Because absolute no left wing regime would ever possibly strip it's people of rights and murder them

Oh wait.

They did.

Repeatedly

*BuT tHaT wAsNt ReAl CoMmUnIsM*

Oh wait, if they were left wing they wouldn't have a dictator because that's inherently opposed to the ideals of liberty and the inherent worth of all people

So what exactly was he USSR? DPRK? PROC?

Wait were they nazis too!

I knew it!

Again. If the Nazis are socialists because it's in the name then are the DPRK Democratic because it's in the name

That logic is autistic through and through

Yes it is, and you keep repeating it

You're the one circling the same point

Since you can't defeat the arguments of anyone else here

You said that National Socialist Workers Party is socialist because they say they are socialist

Your entire rant in this channel is summarized as "Reee I'm retail and deserve more money"

No one deserves anything more than that which they earn

No, I'm going back to this because you're cognitive dissonance is showing

Your autism is showing so

We're even

Anyone that openly supports as failed an ideal as communism is mentally inept.

And anyone that hides behind personal insults in a debate is pathetic

"If I can't refute their statement I'll just call them autists. My 4chan 88chan buddies love that"

"Anyone that disagrees with me clearly has cognitive dissonance"

Because half the communists I've met are absolute retards lmfao

The Nazis killed all the socialists in the party once they got secured their power, that doesn't sound very socialist to me, but what do I know, after all they did call themselves socialists so it must be true

Assuming you're entitled to anything someone else made is absolute mental retardation

@Silverfang they had socialist aspects during their reich

And we're back to the exact same point. Again.

We never left the point

How very common of communists to focus on one point since they can't win the broad spectrum war

I have offered refuting points that you couldn't or wouldnt counter

How common of the alt right to pretend that they're winning when they can't even refute a single point

@Silverfang bro, weve done refuted your points and all you've come up with is

Assumptions that we are bad because we stated ones work related value isnt equal to everyone elses

No you haven't

You haven't refuted anything

Yes we have

We offered a counter view that you dont agree with

Thats how debate works

> How common of the alt right to pretend that they're winning when they can't even refute a single point
@Silverfang
I lost any possible respect for your argument when you complained about not making more but only working retail, and then insinuating my raise was propaganda rather than a reward for work well and fairly done.

Actually correction, I lost respect for you, if I had any since you're a communist.

As if you had any respect for it to start

My argument is I am not entitled to give you any of my labor. Especially if it's the legislated and enforced redistribution your commie bullshit needs to survive.

I am not any percent a slave. Under communism I would be

Actually you know what? If Hitler did have all the socialists killed? Theres something good he did.

Because if I refused to work or refused to give you a percent of my labor, I'd go to prison or a gulag

Do some actual research before you try to argue shit because "The nazis are socialists because they said they were socialists" is going to get you eviscerated if you ever actually have to debate someone

@Silverfang over here man

Like, seriously, actually research the night of the long knives

"Eviserscted lmfao"

@Silverfang https://mises.org/library/why-nazism-was-socialism-and-why-socialism-totalitarian

Pardon me for being exhausted from doing more productive work than screeching "GIMME FREE STUFF" and actually working for my living.

Oh boy, a right wing think tank video!

Jesus christ

I believe that you're only entitled to what you earn, be it through enhancing your physical might or brain power
I believe the community should help each other better themselves but forced "help" like government social programs is theft, if you don't want to participate then just don't benefit from it
I also believe that many people who come to a table and speak AND listen find common ground
Also nazis were socialists
Hitler was inspired by Mussolini
In fact those ideologies that are closest hate each other the most

Oh boy, a communist furry! How could this be any more meme worthy!

If you're not willing to listen to the other side then you're not thinking

Oh boy, a conservative ancap who thinks the DPRK are democrats, this can't be any more meme worthy!

Not an ancap but k

If you're gonna throw shade at least get it right

Hates the government ✅
Thinks the government doing things is communism ✅
Thinks that corporations should be absolutely free to do whatever they want ✅

Ancap

Never said corporations should be free to do whatever

Or at least, you sure believe in all the same things they do

Not sure where you got that from