Bruh moment

Whot

I mean, I recognize the existence of Ukraine to the left of Dnepr river. While Kiev and everything to the right of it is historically Russian territory

Historically, but I personally believe in greater Ukraine

Therefore

Because of the density of ukrainians in certain areas of russia

I do believe

"Greater Ukraine" when did that even exist?

Lmao

1920

For like what seven years?

from the syan to the don

thats ukraine

^

I mean, whats your solution to the whole Civil War issue? Russia is pretty comfortable with letting Ukraine bleed out due to the prolonged conflict.

good

I don't want a western Ukraine

nato and eu will kill it

WHAAAAAT

no

yes

do you want

Western ukraine is good

gay pride parades

and shit

<:ben:588490784576110593> based

in Kyiv?

As long as you don't LET eu and nato in

Plus the influence of both are going down anyway

Yeah, don't let them in, but get all the benefits, I don't think it works that way)

And considering how none of those are in effect with many countries at the western borders of Ukraine, such as Poland, czechia, Slovakia, Hungary etc

i would be 100% fine if Russia annexed us as long as we never have another gay pride parade again

There was a gay pride parade in kyiv some time ago right?

yeah i think so

Also I'd rather.keep Ukraine a country and have no fag parades

God damn

not an option

if we join the west

we WILL have fags

But to be honest I'm kinda used to all the gay pride shit I live in a city full of it

gay

Fag parades in your capital? I legit forgot about that. Yeah

Yeah I hate this place

@Prince_Stolas thank God it was only attempted. It got blocked off by a bunch of absolute chads 👌

I like the self hate Ukrainian nationalism got itself into at this point after almost 7 years of pseudo separation. You don't really have a place to separate to. EU doesn't really want you at this point, self rely is not an option. Zelensky is a clown, a clown with charisma, but still a clown. Russia also has a bunch of issues, but nothing that fundamental, that tied to culture and identity.

russia isn't perfect by far

but I'd rather be with russia than have a "free" Ukraine controlled by the west

I'd rather say fuck Russia fuck the west

The split of Ukraine just becomes a matter of time at this point, it's so sad that it had to go exactly as it did. With such loss of slavian population by the Civil War. I'm glad Crimea got spared

not an option

Fuck the fag parades fuck the Russian imperialism

Maybe not right now but if the fight goes on...

yeah russia is imperialist but again

morally

it would be better to be with russia

and practically

because being alone is not an option for Ukraine

we should join our Orthodox brothers

That's the fun point, you can't ignore both. Есть два стула. The question which are you more comfortable sitting on?

It's still so sad that the 2013 revolution went as it did. It had purpose at first, but then got high jacked by LARPing nazis

yeah

you're alright, moskal

The whole irony of Ukrainian nationalism is that it has no completely sovereign culture to rest on. Ukrainian culture is tied to the Russian one as much as the other way round. What рушники and культ села is all that it can offer, that is in a way sovereign? Anything beyond that?
Ukrainian nationalists either have to borrow heavily from the Russian culture, rebranding symbols as something else. Or just try to act like German soldiers in uniform, signs and flags.
Why not embrace the connection that had developed over a millennium? There are no "russian writers" or "ukranian painters" or "belorussian sculptors". We are one, we get lost when we separate. All of us experience struggles, but if we come together, we can change our broken fate that has hurt us since 1991

This is my outlook on the whole issue

there were Ukrainians though

especially ones that contributed a lot to russian culture

such as

maxim berezovsky

who wrote so many liturgy chants

and songs

@everyone Daily Question 🔖

- Are people ultimately divided more by class than by nationality?

no

Yes

inside a country by class, outside by nationality so both ?

a poor person from like

russia

this question is gay

isn't as close to a poor person from lets say

@CUNT If you took 2 people of the same nationality but once was rich and one was poor, would they relate more than 2 poor people from different countries?

Yes

japan

@Deleted User no they aren't, belive it or not we probably won't have any commies

as a rich person from japan is

@Deleted User anon is NAZBOL

poor people have less language skills to start with, they will relate more to their own

In the view of the U.S and Europe, absolutely

Class is more dividing than nationality

no

its not

@Deleted User but the question is asking if we belive in the main values of communism

I don't see why we would like germans more then our own poor

If we fixed the insane class division in european and n.american nations

Nationalism would be significantly stronger

As always it depends

there are no rich and poor

2 nationalities can be similar

So in that case, class

Though that isn't always

@Deleted User there are no poor people in russia because its communist

what