mainsteam science that has been proven

It is impossible for us to reach a compromise because our outlooks on the world are so polar opposites.

Like evolution?

Any other science is pseudoscience

Anything that isn't tested and observed but has the veneers of science can still be compelling to those who don't think

Flat earth is the stupidest thing

Flat Earth makes sense to me.

But I understand that’s not for everyone.

The ancient greeks knew the earth was spherical

And knew roughly how big it was

The ancient Greeks also were gay.

Satellites working proves orbital mechanics quite well

Yup he is bating

Here’s an interesting mind bender for you.

Things that wouldn't stay up if gravity pulled everything to a plane and not a point

Is GPS a satellite system?

I am pretty sure, yes

Correction.

It is not.

Then how does it work

If you pull it up online. They will tell you it is a satellite system.

But in truth. It is ground based.

Just ignore him Notso, he isn't debating in good faith

What are we talking about

Hes going on about ancient nukes and flat earth

uuuh

idk if i wanna get into this convo now

It’s why during the Gulf War, GPS systems wouldn’t work. I actually had a soldier tell me that. That the reason they wouldn’t work is because they are not satellite based.

Anyone want to debate about socialism?

Finally.

A topic worth discussing.

socialism bad

^

How @DoobyCooby

idk

Lol

There are some okay things about it

@Attika You wanna try?

I’m just saying things a lot of people would instantly say when socialism is brought up

@bolivarian_robert Socialism focuses on the many instead of the one, it also promotes government intervention into personal lives, things I am inherently against. Socialism is inherently about big government and a planned economy. While some socialist policies could and should be implemented, for the most part it is a curse that destroys countries and forces people to become state drones.

Socialism doesn’t require government intervention in personal lives, it requires government intervention in the economy @Attika

Also focusing on the many is a good thing for a nation to survive

That is something I am also against.

Individual rights and freedoms should never be infringed

What rights

Freedom of speech, bear arms and pursuit of happiness.

Bear arms isn't a right

How does socialism infringe on those things

I also never want the government to meddle with my family and relationships

Wait Socialism as in Marxian Socialism?

Here in civilized country at least

No @DoobyCooby

But Marx believed in the right to bear arms

I do not know in America how it works

@Notso its a right in America

Yeah

Should be a privilege

No.

It’s a right.

It's a privilege

And that should never ever ever be infringed

If you arent american

It’s a right.

If it’s a right then even children have access to them

I am german

It's not a right

And look at Germany.

It’s an absolute mess

We are doing fine

America is an absolute mess!

Cologne disagrees

marx said the workers should own weapons and should even fight back if they are to be taken away from them

Why are you changing the conversation @Attika

I’m not changing the conversation.

I’m following it

We are talking about Germany now I guess

If you're talking about our muslims, look at all your minority crime

Again.

Which is why I am a white nationalist.

oh

We were talking about if bearing arms is right or priviliege

It’s a right.

We live in different countries

No we were talking about socialism @Notso

You understand that

Don’t change it

Right

I don't believe rights exist

Problems with socialism is that it allows the government to include itself in the economy.

What’s wrong with that

So instead we should let corporations fuck around with people's livelihoods?

Because the government will always damage the economy irreparably. Look at Venezuela.

Vuvuzuela time

You want people to suffer in poverty because they can't afford 200.000 college degree? That is already in America

The Venezuela crisis wasn’t caused by government intervention in the economy

It was caused by over-reliance on a single resource starting in the 1970’s

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@Notso no. But as a guy who owns a corporation and runs a business. Government intervention makes things worse for everyone. I have experienced this myself.

@bolivarian_robert I disagree. It was one of the wealthiest nations in SA before they went socialist.

Prove socialism caused it