and the state is seperate

in the USA, we were ALWAYS defined by acceptance of certain core VALUES

community enforced these values and ridiculed those that didn't respect them

I'm saying you are missusing terms and my misunderstanding comes from his missuse

today, the mechanism of social ridcule has been hijacked

when you say "community" it appears to be that you are talking about the people

there is not community

and the state keeps filling the void

not a hypothetical community

But a concept of the people as a collective

which is wrong

don't talk to me if you are going to be a post-modernist

I'm not

yes, it is a concept which i labeled 'community'

is the the proper label? perhaps not

I'm saying that your miss use of the terms is creating issues with my understanding

that doesn't invalidate the concept

just the label

Well the concept is flawed

as well

but the post-modernist can't see past superfical labels

indeed we must have decentralized communties that makes their own laws, if we can achive this the state becomes unneccessary

which are you?

The state should exist just shouldn't intervene in domestic affairs as it does.

not 'laws'

and your miss use of the terms is hiding the fact that it is a flawed concept

we have the state for that

@SageTheory no it shouldn't exist at all

besides, 98% of life happens BEYOND the 'laws'

I can't explain why your concept is wrong without explaining that the terms you use are wrong

because if I didn't I'd have no way to explain why your concept is wrong

you don't learn killing is wrong because someone breaks the law and the state punishes you

How are we gonna go to war if we don’t have a state

Lol sorry ancap Utopia is retarded humans aren't built that way.

the community influences people to follow certain social norms that are aligned with the 'law' because law takes it's cue from community precedence

Humans are social creatures, so they'll inevitably create some sort of community.

ancap utopia existed

it was called kowloon walled city

and it was pretty ebic

@SageTheory AnCaps don't claim there way of doing things is "Utopia" retard

You have head cannoned this out of thin air, there is so much spaghetti in your statements @ManAnimal

sigh* if this is going to be an 'ancap argument' that is whole other argument

@Terry Arcona Well their ideal is utopian

anbrap

no, this was the way it was in the day of my PARENTS and GRANDPARENTS

1940-1985

How are we gonna have a Military without a state

@Muten not really, it's pretty practical if you really read up on it

>reading

Look if you can't explain it to a layman

then it's too full of bullshit

i have explained it just fine

Not you

Try reading War and Peace

fuck that

That first paragraph is a mouthful

you are just a post-moderist and can't grasp concepts outside of labels

it's ok

we like blue hair here too

opps

not me

i hate when that happens

lol

You missed my counter completely, instead opting to label me post modernist and filling in the rest with your own bias @ManAnimal

sorrry

negative

i DID miss that you were aiming for Sage

no terry literally @'d me

I was responding to terry

god you are thick

yes, i was directing my intital statements to sage

and YOU muten are self-centered. the world doesn't revolve around you. i wasn't following your conversation.

Were you? I thought you were rambling as usual.

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leave the thinking to others, Sage

God I let everyone think

you aren't very good at it Sage, you might hurt yourself

Stay spergy, Muten and Godman. It makes my Sperg Boner EXTRA HARD

Not just my own ego

idiots should be allowed to think

now you are misreading something directed at Sage

and they should be heard

Nice strawman though calling me a post modernist though because I said incitement is bad.

I'm building off your statements to make a point

stop trying to stuff everything with your own ego

Muten, i accused you not of not allowing or not thinking, i only accused YOU of expecting me to read your everyword like it was the most important think in my life

idiots should be heard

if i didn't read, i won't undserstand

I was just laughing at the ancap

if you want to have a convo with someone you should listen to what they say

Ancaps have a point, they just take it abit far

that should be self explanatory

Ayn Rand was right with a few things

if you can't do that

@SageTheory jokes on you because I didn't say anything that was funny

not to you

but her assesment of human nature was...... off mark

but to real intellectuals

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