The point is below me, honestly.

Pun intended.

Blasian Ethnostate when

My point is the common person won't travel space and if so it'd be years before its affordable.

they can and they will

right now its a n exclusive club because nasa needs pilots that can also do repairs

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and no shit workers will exist lol

but when space travel becomes commericalized normies will be admitted too

And it's on the verge.

The Space Force commentary is just an aspect..

mm hmm

It's just taken a long fucking time to get ahold of it.

imagine space 911

space 411?

hijackers turn a rocket into an orbital strike

If it's necessary to risk that.

That is fine.

that is why no habitats; comies would nuke those on earth if they had somewhere ELSE to live

It'll be funny when the rest of the world makes a space military corp. after mocking Trump for it.

its inevitable

I just wish my life path woulda taken a path to controlling more directly. *wipes tears away*

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>orange man discovers immortality
>people kill themselves in protest

there is no space force. It's simple like AFRICOM or EUCOM etc. simple DOD reorg, like JTAC was with nukes

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Used to be each branch of the military had charge of their own tactics and deployment of nukes. this resulted in overlap and inefficiency

It's the thought that counts @ManAnimal honestly.

then they consolidated everything nuclear under JTAC

Basically *talking* about Space Force brings it to the public consciousness

whether its up now or not, it will be needed. private companies would get aggressive with each other and start colonizing moons and planets theyre not authorized too.

instead of xenos the first enemies engaged by the space force would definitely be private companies and their private security acting like their own governments

you don't think it is already in the public consciousness?

I think most in the public are just tired of the same old promises

Underscoring it is important.

Moon in 4 yrs... for the last 40 yrs we have heard every President say this

Not that I recall

i dont think so

its private companies that want to go into space

Probably for the better tbh

Still debatable as to whether or not BEING in space can be profitable

Hate to pull it.. Obama? Bush 2? Clinton? Bush 1?

profitable definitely

launching sattellites and visiting? sure. but staying there?

Just a matter of make it so.

>housing
>mining
>prospect of making your own colony and turn a corporation into an actual legal self governing sovereign power

imagine a planet owned solely by disney where they control EVERYTHING

But I absolutely don't recall any "moon in four years" from prior admins.

But truthfully, companies like SpaceX have only been integrators not so much innovators

Skylon if it works would be an innovation

Integration is a step to innovation.

It just works.

but what SpaceX is doing is taking 30 yrs of aerospace work in the industry and integrating it

Yeah, which is absolutely needed.

this is true

That's how efficiency is gained - revision.

The real question is pace of iteration.

But it highlights the uncertainty of whether or not we can make it profitable outside of novelty visits

Efficient enough and I'd think so.

well, the iteration was done with MANY aerospace companies going bankrupt and each moving the ball forward inch by inch

Also, for on lookers, profitability isn't just capital in the form of direct RoI.

this is true especially for the Normies who will tip the balance

personally though, i think much of the new focus comes from 'peer pressure' felt by countries like China and India

the US doesn't want to fall behind

Which is why my argument of why being "hope" is valid in my estimate.

oh no doubt, i agree with you there

We shouldn't have rested on our laurels for so long.

it's just that such 'hope' is usually more abundant with those that haven't heard Bush Senior, Clinton, GWB and Obama make the same empty promises

Again, hate to pull it.. but I don't recall them doing so.

lol. of course you don't.

you hadn't been hatched yet

Recall, I'm in my early 30s.

I was paying attention in Obama, GWB and the end of Clinton's time.

So you seriously don;t remember?

Its almost like you should take a career politician's word with a grain of salt.

As said, I don't remember the latter two aiming at moonshot.

Brb. will get video

I just saw a hard-left friend of mine say "Twitter is run by actual fascists" and my almonds are on fucking fire

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Admission: '89 counts as prior to my awareness.

I mean we did have a mission to mars tho.

probably no thanks to Obama

Okay, catching Bush the 2nd, he actually met the longer goal.. which was ISS.

I may be wrong about Clinton. I can personally remember hearing speeches from all the others but Clinton

Yeah, I recall the Bush one.. and after seeing the thumbnail for Obama I do recall that.

Also, watching the Bush II one...

Fucking Obama broke the plan.

I'm even *more* angry at Obama, now.

Also, even if my account isn't entirely factually accurate, others are sure to have the same disappointment. The fact that we haven't really made many strides forward since those Moon landings in 30+ yrs kinds gives everyone a bad taste in their mouth

Meh, Obama wasn't BAD.. he was just a CUCK

NASA isn't really funded as much.