you don't think it is already in the public consciousness?

I think most in the public are just tired of the same old promises

Underscoring it is important.

Moon in 4 yrs... for the last 40 yrs we have heard every President say this

Not that I recall

i dont think so

its private companies that want to go into space

Probably for the better tbh

Still debatable as to whether or not BEING in space can be profitable

Hate to pull it.. Obama? Bush 2? Clinton? Bush 1?

profitable definitely

launching sattellites and visiting? sure. but staying there?

Just a matter of make it so.

>housing
>mining
>prospect of making your own colony and turn a corporation into an actual legal self governing sovereign power

imagine a planet owned solely by disney where they control EVERYTHING

But I absolutely don't recall any "moon in four years" from prior admins.

But truthfully, companies like SpaceX have only been integrators not so much innovators

Skylon if it works would be an innovation

Integration is a step to innovation.

It just works.

but what SpaceX is doing is taking 30 yrs of aerospace work in the industry and integrating it

Yeah, which is absolutely needed.

this is true

That's how efficiency is gained - revision.

The real question is pace of iteration.

But it highlights the uncertainty of whether or not we can make it profitable outside of novelty visits

Efficient enough and I'd think so.

well, the iteration was done with MANY aerospace companies going bankrupt and each moving the ball forward inch by inch

Also, for on lookers, profitability isn't just capital in the form of direct RoI.

this is true especially for the Normies who will tip the balance

personally though, i think much of the new focus comes from 'peer pressure' felt by countries like China and India

the US doesn't want to fall behind

Which is why my argument of why being "hope" is valid in my estimate.

oh no doubt, i agree with you there

We shouldn't have rested on our laurels for so long.

it's just that such 'hope' is usually more abundant with those that haven't heard Bush Senior, Clinton, GWB and Obama make the same empty promises

Again, hate to pull it.. but I don't recall them doing so.

lol. of course you don't.

you hadn't been hatched yet

Recall, I'm in my early 30s.

I was paying attention in Obama, GWB and the end of Clinton's time.