1820's

@Tato how so?

weve talked about that

Yeah, and I'm not proposing a short term fix.

that was during a semi feudal system

this is the present

it wasnt feminist it was focused on survival

not the past

and u need women for survival

or they needed

@Tato i mean you can see how it is in islamic countries to this day with men being complete slaves to women

There's a lot no one here is taking into account which is technology

These solutions might work as the world is but

muslims are slaves of ideology both men and women

If you fuck off to some backwater area, never advertise, never put up signs, and take pride in not being friendly towards outsiders, then nobody is ever going to want to go there. Just make sure you steadily build more and more gated communities, so you'll end up with this iron wall of "Don't come here" staring people in the face.

Not that long ago there where people who lived before the advent of the plane

And technological growth is increasing at least as far as I can tell

Hence why you don't want to become Amish 2.0.

You want to keep up with modern technology. Just not the culture.

@Arthur Grayborn long before you gain enough resources to build a wall you'd be infiltrated

simply do to your size

> moms

@Tato and who, may i ask, forms the ideology of children? Who has time to raise them with men being required to provide for their female relatives and - if they are marrying cause theres a huge amount of incels there thanks to polygamy empowering women to go all for the very best of men - who has time for that?

@Muten - Not if your entire society is built around gated communities, where one of the existing residents has to sponsor you.

We need to move away from polygamy in the very least

Ever heard of the fox and the hound?

@Redneo women form ideology of children men form ideology of women

Pair bonding is the way to go

>women form ideology of children men form ideology of women
do you even human

people from the inside would get interested with people from the outside and let them in

Polygamy COULD work, in theory, if you could manipulate the relative birth rates of men and women. You don't want to end up with a bunch of partner-less men though, not unless you're willing to embrace turning a bunch of men into traps.

I hate both protect the childran and protect the womenz

@Tato no. women form ideologies of men, too. men want to please women and do what they want. allways did, allways will.

polygamy works in practice\

I mean just look at ancient societies

very successful with rampant polygamy

@Arthur Grayborn sounds good to me.

besides if women shape childrens ideology, those children grow up to be the men later on 😛

Its less about birth-rates and more about the social strength and stability of 2 person relationships ie pair bonding

false its a modern idea and it is so in modernity thats y west is falling apart socially

my hair is a bird

We actually already have the tech for creating more female babies, where you do some medical sort of thing pre-selecting the sperm.

@Arthur Grayborn not having women anymore. we have created eggcells from blood, we dont need women for eggcells. and we have biobags, we dont need their wombs...

In poly you can't have people as tightly knit

Which sounds bad but we're talking about family so

in past women tried to make men like them they wanted to be desireable

modern men are feminine

and weak

@Tato wrong

Women want modern men to be unattractive to women

men have never been more masculine than today @Tato

so wrong

Never listen to what a women tells you she wants

biologically yes

Its like always the opposite

yes they can troll you too

;p

mentally were all bunch of pussies

compared to our ancestors

I don't know if I agree with that

yeah should bring back famine plague and perpetual war

What most women want is the maximum status for the least amount of effort.

They'll dangle their assets in front of a man if they think he's a step up from their current partner.

yep Arthur same with men

it's what human wants

That isn't culture its technology even modern China is softer then old commie china

arthur that's legit the same with anyone

Everywhere is getting softer

oh i disagree. plenty of men are now openly embracing all the things jesus did. not marrying, not being ashamed of being seen with prostitutes and so on. @Tato

maximum gains for minimum input

that's called efficiency

Except North Korea

china

path of least resistance yes

china

Yeah, but there are a lot of moderately wealthy guys out there who game women's feelings to get laid literally hundreds of times a year, convincing a fuckload of women in the process that they can get and/or deserve such a guy.

jesus was a pussy

You know why that exists though

muhammad was a fucking soyboy

its not a societal problem

Because of the shift towards a more poly society

u picked the pussiest person in history

its a biological problem. we evolved that way

jesus is a face of modern man

Fewer men get all the women

Real men fuck little boys, like the Greeks.

Pederasty FTW.

keke

that's a bit too far nigga

Incels cry themselves to sleep and ugly chicks chase 10/10s

even greeks werent as gay as we are today

the issue is incels crying about being incels and using it to justify shit

all of the pedo jokes from arthur make me uncomfortable

The Greeks where gay in a better way then we are today

@svarozhyc they arent

It was one joke, you @Bastard.

haha guys wouldnt it be crazy if a man fucked a child hahahahahahaha not a pedo tho

i remember you defending pedophilia a week or so ago too

@svarozhyc they (the incels) are blaming themselves and then commiting suicide murder for allah and the women.

Its not just incels crying about incels

Really? I don't recall it.

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