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2019-08-25 01:20:12 UTC

tbh

2019-08-25 01:20:24 UTC

Thunderf00t is a kinda dead channel nowadays

2019-08-25 01:20:32 UTC

It kind of is, lol

2019-08-25 01:20:36 UTC

along with the Amazing Atheist

2019-08-25 01:21:02 UTC

thankfully, he seems to mostly have gone back to just refuting specific extraordinary claims about new commercial technologies

2019-08-25 01:21:08 UTC

like they have 1 Million subs

yet they barely can push 50K+ views on recently videos

2019-08-25 01:22:36 UTC

I used to watch Thunderf00t a lot, when he was refuting creationist videos.

2019-08-25 01:23:45 UTC

What's funny is that the principles of evolution and selection I learned from watching Thunderf00t were a huge contribution to my understanding of biological realism. The conclusions of which, I'm almost sure would freak out Thunderf00t himself.

2019-08-25 01:24:50 UTC

Of course there was even more to learn about selection mechanisms, such as reproductive isolation, for instance often being a major factor in proper speciation. Something a lot of experts don't really go over.

2019-08-25 01:25:54 UTC

In fact, it's actually really shocking how much of the mechanisms aren't really explored by more mainstream accessible texts and lectures at the high school and even college levels.

2019-08-25 01:26:16 UTC

Probably because they're only focused on biology broadly, and not evolutionary biology in particular, and so can't examine it in detail.

2019-08-25 01:28:39 UTC

<:pepelaugh:544857300179877898>

2019-08-25 01:29:21 UTC

IT GETS BETTER

2019-08-25 04:02:32 UTC

o damn poppy is racist!

2019-08-25 04:02:46 UTC

vaush exemplifies like everything wrong with the western left

2019-08-25 08:10:34 UTC

Canadian politics in one image.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613770471938195467/615095657677586434/50596559.06_image.png

2019-08-25 08:22:08 UTC

unfortunately yes

2019-08-25 08:22:30 UTC

Max is the only non cuck in Canada

2019-08-25 10:24:46 UTC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWLn1NL5Cgg --- Uhh, Sargon really doesn't know much about Satanism. Maybe he should watch more Styx (especially older ones, since now he's more about the occult stuff that's piled on top of Satanic philosophy that is still there).

2019-08-25 10:26:40 UTC

There's a problem with abandoning sacrilegious anti-Christian movements because they are "just anti, not pro". First, Sargon is anti-feminist, anti-SJW, neither ios pro anything, which is why he's been courted by neo-fucking-nazis.

2019-08-25 10:29:44 UTC

There's a specific need in the USA for atheistic parody denominations such as The Satanic Church, Temple of Satan and Pastafarianism. Namely: 1st Amendment will be violated without them, by Christians.

2019-08-25 10:33:38 UTC

If you as an atheist demand nativity scenes to be taken off from courthouse lawns (yeah, COURTHOUSE, not even other, less political governmental property but fucking courthouse itself which implies total oblitaration of 1st Amendment in spirit as USA judicial system is implied to be ruled by Jesus), most Christians would call atheists basically being no fun and that they rather destroy than create. The Christians would say that nativity scenes, Jesus statues, Bible quotes and 10 Rules of Moses belong to courthouse lawns *as does every religious icon of other religions*.

2019-08-25 10:35:33 UTC

But when atheists actually do what Christians want them to do and "create instead of destroy", and they erect Satanic statues or Flying Spaghetti Monster on the lawn, the Christians go **apeshit** about how anti-Christian it is and how they rather let courthouse be courthouse than a religious carnival. And rather than blaming the first group of Christians, the second group of Christians also blames atheists just like the first group did.

2019-08-25 10:36:54 UTC

Christianity is still a part of the western culture, deal with it

2019-08-25 10:36:59 UTC

Why cannot Christians take swords and fight this out ** among themselves**?

2019-08-25 10:37:26 UTC

@ETBrooD I'm just tired that atheists are turning pro-Christian theocracy now.

2019-08-25 10:37:35 UTC

They're not

2019-08-25 10:39:47 UTC

The unity between atheists and Christians that we're seeing right now is purely a stance of... anti-Islam, anti-open borders, anti-communist, and such things

2019-08-25 10:40:51 UTC

Lol. Maybe it's the cultural context. All I see is Christinity trying to unify with Islam since they worship the same God (just with different understanding on who the prophets are).

2019-08-25 10:41:06 UTC

And the church promising to house illegal migrants from deportation.

2019-08-25 10:41:11 UTC

Where do we see Christian-Islam unification?

2019-08-25 10:41:16 UTC

Insanity, I say, insanity.

2019-08-25 10:41:49 UTC

Christians are not unifying with Islam, not to my knowledge. They're just humanist, and Muslims are humans.

2019-08-25 10:42:01 UTC

@ETBrooD Nowhere, since Mudslime don't want it. They are offered all sorts of nonsense about being the Religion of Peace.

2019-08-25 10:42:21 UTC

Do remember, Religion of Peace is a conservative, Christian newspeak.

2019-08-25 10:42:25 UTC

It was not by SJWs.

2019-08-25 10:42:35 UTC

Christian?

2019-08-25 10:42:47 UTC

Yeah.

2019-08-25 10:42:55 UTC

When was that?

2019-08-25 10:43:01 UTC

G.W. Bush

2019-08-25 10:43:12 UTC

He said Islam is a religion of peace?

2019-08-25 10:43:27 UTC

I'll try to find a Youtube clip...

2019-08-25 10:46:21 UTC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ynG7bcH6ss is a compilation of Christian conservativism toward Islam.

2019-08-25 10:46:48 UTC

watching rn

2019-08-25 10:46:50 UTC

Also, some parts of Alt-Right is converting to Islam for good reasons. Because they are conservative, reactionary even.

2019-08-25 10:47:35 UTC

There's **zero chance** of Deus Vult becoming reality again. Only atheists are in a position to go agressively against religion (incl. Islam).

2019-08-25 10:48:53 UTC

Because atheists see 1st Amendment mostly as "freedom from religion" but Christians see it as "freedom to religion". And because they tie themselves to freedom to exercise instead of freedom to not, they are obligated to defend Islam, at every turn.

2019-08-25 10:49:36 UTC

Ok, I guess this proves Bush was indeed the useful idiot that he's always appeared to be. Don't need to watch the last minute of the video, this suffices.

2019-08-25 10:49:55 UTC

But I disagree, from my experience many Christians are arguing vehemently against Islam

2019-08-25 10:50:21 UTC

There will always be fools who fall for Islam, that's a general stupidity/ignorance problem.

2019-08-25 10:50:39 UTC

My family is mostly atheist and some of them fell hook line and sinker for it

2019-08-25 10:51:06 UTC

Because to combat Islamic lunacy, you either curb down the religious lunacy in general (staying within 1st Amendment of not taking sides) or you ... just demand repealing 1st Amendment to create religious freedom to only selected religions (most likely only to Christians).

2019-08-25 10:51:18 UTC

And the latter is not going to go well.

2019-08-25 10:51:41 UTC

I guess ya

2019-08-25 10:52:21 UTC

But I have to say I welcome the alliance against Islam that is happening between atheists and Christians

2019-08-25 10:52:43 UTC

Alliance cannot happen.

2019-08-25 10:52:45 UTC

Christians are almost atheistic these days

2019-08-25 10:53:02 UTC

It is already happening though

2019-08-25 10:53:03 UTC

Because Deus Vult will have atheists impaled on the spear next to the Mujahideen.

2019-08-25 10:53:15 UTC

That's fundamentalism

2019-08-25 10:53:27 UTC

We talking about Christianity, not insane medieval bullshit

2019-08-25 10:53:27 UTC

Deus Vult **is fundamentalism**.

2019-08-25 10:53:44 UTC

Non-fundamentalist Christianity **CANNOT** fight Islam. Only fundamentalists can.

2019-08-25 10:53:58 UTC

Of course they can

2019-08-25 10:54:01 UTC

And fundamentalists are fundamentally anti-atheists as well. There can be no alliance.

2019-08-25 10:54:13 UTC

The only thing you need to fight Islam is the ability to see the truth with your eyes

2019-08-25 10:54:45 UTC

You cannot fight Islam if there's "freedom to religion".

2019-08-25 10:55:01 UTC

You can only fight against Islam if you focus on "freedom from religion".

2019-08-25 10:55:19 UTC

The fight against Islam is not a destruction of the idea or the religion itself

2019-08-25 10:55:20 UTC

Because then you can point out the lack of freedom is Islam by them prohibiting apostacy.

2019-08-25 10:55:26 UTC

It's a destruction of the fundamentalism

2019-08-25 10:55:35 UTC

Same as has happened with Christianity

2019-08-25 10:55:52 UTC

But you cannot destroy only fundamentalism of Islam. 1st Amendment doesn't allow it.

2019-08-25 10:55:59 UTC

Sure you can

2019-08-25 10:56:01 UTC

You need to treat all fundies equally.

2019-08-25 10:56:06 UTC

Muslims are quitting all over the place

2019-08-25 10:56:11 UTC

Most ex-Muslims are in Muslim countries

2019-08-25 10:56:27 UTC

They're just afraid for their lives right noew

2019-08-25 10:56:32 UTC

Like Chinese in China

2019-08-25 10:56:42 UTC

It's the same thing, just different

2019-08-25 10:56:54 UTC

North Koreans in North Korea

2019-08-25 10:57:04 UTC

Do you think they actually all believe the lies of their government?

2019-08-25 10:58:09 UTC

It's important that we defend all the things that make this change possible

2019-08-25 10:58:29 UTC

What do you think is the reason why so many leftists don't attack Islam, but they do attack capitalism?

2019-08-25 10:59:09 UTC

It's because capitalism reveals the true nature of Islam. Leftists reject capitalism, and thus they welcome everything that rejects capitalism.

2019-08-25 10:59:16 UTC

Islam rejects capitalism.

2019-08-25 10:59:35 UTC

Black or white, no gray. That's how people are.

2019-08-25 10:59:45 UTC

But Satanism accepts capitalism.

2019-08-25 10:59:55 UTC

Aight, good

2019-08-25 11:00:15 UTC

It accepts gun rights, it accept right to self-defense, etc.

2019-08-25 11:00:26 UTC

Those are things they have in common with Christians

2019-08-25 11:00:41 UTC

Do you see now why atheists can ally with Christians?

2019-08-25 11:00:57 UTC

Satanists can also ally with Christians.

2019-08-25 11:01:04 UTC

Why not?

2019-08-25 11:01:26 UTC

I don't know much if anything about satanism

2019-08-25 11:03:11 UTC

Also, Sargon stating that Satanism is just anti-Christian is nonsense. Even though they don't worship Satan, they do value some of the characteristics attributed to him (or the Snake, depending on whether you consider them the same): freedom, knowledge, manipulation.

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