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2019-11-06 18:18:36 UTC

Weโ€™ll talk another time

2019-11-06 18:19:44 UTC

Anyway, both of you may want to take a peek at Louis' video when you have time:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFNLQcUWZ-Y

2019-11-06 18:23:58 UTC

It's so nice for *you* to link it. Ford why scream reee if I did that.

2019-11-06 18:25:07 UTC

I actually very much agree with the pre-amble (except his mischaracterization of "libertarian") and well as the main payload regarding Crowders slackass attitude toward mass-immigration.

2019-11-06 18:28:04 UTC

Honestly, libertarians are so all over the place that it's hard NOT to mischaracterise them.

2019-11-06 18:29:52 UTC

Btw, I think there's a little bit of hypocrisy to say Groypers attempting to destroy TPUSA is justified because they want conservativism to be (their type of) conservative. That should also apply to TPUSA and their right to want to destroy and deplatform Fuentes. Either canceling is OK for both or it's not OK for either and the dialogue should be honest.

2019-11-06 18:30:38 UTC

@whiic They're not canceling them, though.

2019-11-06 18:30:47 UTC

I don't think TPUSA likes the idea of conservativism becoming Fuentes type of conservativism.

2019-11-06 18:30:53 UTC

@Goddess Tyche Well, neither was Kirk.

2019-11-06 18:30:54 UTC

They're literally destroying them by exposing them

2019-11-06 18:31:00 UTC

Kirk has not shut down Fuentes.

2019-11-06 18:31:13 UTC

That's not the same as destroying them by preventing them from exposing themselves.

2019-11-06 18:31:50 UTC

There's no benefit in destruction of TPUSA, except for Democrats.

2019-11-06 18:32:29 UTC

The democrats are literally too retarded to take advantage of enemy killing one another, so Groypers decided to take a shot.

2019-11-06 18:32:36 UTC

Who can blame them, honestly?

2019-11-06 18:33:02 UTC

You cannot blame a retard being a retard.

2019-11-06 18:33:11 UTC

I mean, TPUSA advocate stuff like children transitioning.

2019-11-06 18:33:19 UTC

How the fuck is that even conservative?

2019-11-06 18:33:33 UTC

Well, I don't approve of that and I'm not even conservative.

2019-11-06 18:33:34 UTC

Bad phrasing, maybe

2019-11-06 18:33:46 UTC

I don't think they advocate for it

2019-11-06 18:33:54 UTC

But... I don't you are talking the truth about "TPUSA advocate stuff like children transitioning."

2019-11-06 18:34:01 UTC

but just tolerating it is bad enough

2019-11-06 18:34:01 UTC

You always lie.

2019-11-06 18:34:07 UTC

Ford lies all the time.

2019-11-06 18:34:21 UTC

About Kirk saying he supports Gay Agenda, etc.

2019-11-06 18:34:34 UTC

And when asked for proof, his video link provided no such sound clip.

2019-11-06 18:35:07 UTC

Well, they don't support this shit outright, but they would if it "InCrEaSeD mUh GdP!!!1!11!"

2019-11-06 18:35:12 UTC

Just a mention of moving on from fighting gay marriage legal status and defending religious freedom instead (i.e not forcing churches to go against the Bible).

2019-11-06 18:35:24 UTC

But that was literally supporting Gay Agenda to Ford.

2019-11-06 18:35:34 UTC

Always lie, and hope you aren't called out.

2019-11-06 18:36:11 UTC

Well, you at least retracted your BS statement that TPUSA advocates child sex transitioning. Maybe because you knew I would have asked for proof and you'd have egg on your face.

2019-11-06 18:36:34 UTC

You dodged a bullet by retracting it quicker than I managed to ask a source.

2019-11-06 18:36:50 UTC

Well, I did phrase it badly, but the fact is that they're not explicitly saying that they're against it.

2019-11-06 18:36:58 UTC

Still proves your nature as lying pieces of shit that have relativistic concept of reality.

2019-11-06 18:37:34 UTC

Look, TPUSA are retards. Need proof? Go to their events and ask them pertinent questions, and watch them squirm.

2019-11-06 18:37:50 UTC

The groypers are "trying" to do that.

2019-11-06 18:38:16 UTC

And I rather not have retards as allies

2019-11-06 18:38:41 UTC

I don't need proof of them being "retards". They are absolutely wrong and placing Israel before USA.

2019-11-06 18:38:48 UTC

They should be TPIsrael.

2019-11-06 18:39:35 UTC

Turning Point? More like Snap-dick-off-and-gib-money-point, amirite, lololololol

2019-11-06 18:40:06 UTC

Also, another video on the topic:

2019-11-06 18:40:10 UTC

I'd prefer something that rhymed with original.

2019-11-06 18:40:17 UTC

I'm just too lazy to come up with rhymes.

2019-11-06 19:07:04 UTC

@snake You should look at the University of Maryland study on Rats, when evolutionary pressures were removed from their lifestyle

2019-11-06 19:07:47 UTC

Their group's trajectory became similar to our civilization's trajectory

2019-11-06 19:09:08 UTC

First there was a spike in population, then there was a rapid decline in fertility rates, then there was drop in testosterones among males, then there was emergence of sexual deviancy which led to almost no reproduction happening at a group level

2019-11-06 19:09:22 UTC

Eventually the entire group died

2019-11-06 19:10:56 UTC

There was evidence for the societal effects of sexual deviancy in this study

2019-11-06 19:11:20 UTC

Edward Dutton might have a video on this

2019-11-06 19:19:36 UTC

You mean, the mouse utopia?

2019-11-06 19:25:02 UTC

@Monstrous Moonshine Mouse Utopia Experiments?

2019-11-06 19:25:32 UTC

I watched Fredrik Knudsen's vidya on it, and goddamn, the concept is fucking terrifying

2019-11-06 20:00:21 UTC

Yes

2019-11-06 20:00:53 UTC

That video you linked is great

2019-11-06 20:40:30 UTC

Alright Iโ€™ll check it out

2019-11-06 20:40:47 UTC

Iโ€™ve heard about it a long ass time ago, so I know the basic stages

2019-11-06 22:16:59 UTC

"Sex is like bridge in that if you don't have a good partner you better have a good hand." Truer words have never been spoken.

2019-11-07 00:22:43 UTC

Oh yeah, I have to finish watching that debate

had a thought about taxing the rich. typically rich people employ people, and those people pay taxes out of money that was given by the billioniare

2019-11-07 00:28:02 UTC

Iโ€™m meh on taxing the rich

2019-11-07 00:28:18 UTC

Like Iโ€™ve considered both sides, and I think a flat tax is best

2019-11-07 00:28:24 UTC

Tax the same percent

theyre also obviously paying the workers, keeping thousands of people off needing social programs

which in itself could be called an 'advanced social program'

social program aka, healthcare. get payed to work, use money for healthcare

kinda works

2019-11-07 00:29:27 UTC

Like the reason Iโ€™m against a progressive tax is because they wouldnโ€™t be making profit, so no point in making more money

2019-11-07 00:29:37 UTC

**unless**

2019-11-07 00:29:41 UTC

You tax evade

2019-11-07 00:29:46 UTC

We shouldnโ€™t promote that

i cant remember the name of it

but theres a tax curve

after like 40% tax rate, you get less in tax revenue

because the people find ways to avoid paying it

2019-11-07 00:30:20 UTC

/\

and a lot of empires die because of high taxes

2019-11-07 00:30:27 UTC

Yeah I remember

2019-11-07 00:30:28 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/633967335614447636/641796573411672079/laffercurvegraph.png

10-30% is the sweet spot

2019-11-07 00:30:46 UTC

Commies donโ€™t see this chart

destroy the billioniares!

o wait no billioniares give us your money

o wait no dont leave

2019-11-07 00:31:32 UTC

Iโ€™d say tax the most you can that you can get away with, so like 30%

2019-11-07 00:31:58 UTC

Iโ€™ve heard 22% before but thatโ€™s a little low

if you want the billioaires money, work for them and then use the money on competitor small buisnesses

i saw a twitter post of some gonk who said 'if youre right wing, dont commission me'

and im like uh

2019-11-07 00:32:33 UTC

Iโ€™m not a free market shill, like we have to deal with monopolies

you get to take their money

and you can spend that money on abortion clinics or whatever

2019-11-07 00:32:56 UTC

Are you pro abortion?

everyone wins then

no

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