again, if the material quality were sub-par, that would result in an awkward, non-uniform collapse

one, single, example. Of a building collapsing into itself due to "structural fires and damage"

but the collapse was COMPLETELY uniform from start to finish

that doesn't 'just happen'

@ManAnimal I'm demanding an example from the agents over there

any variation in material strength would cause the fall of differnt corners of the building to vary slightl y

we've been shut off in a private server

lol

the notion of 'pancake theory' has about as much engineering validity as the moon being made of cheese

lol complete 180 to what you were saying huh

?

complete 180 to what?

pancake theory is how implosions work

The first letter of every tweet Representative Paul Gosar made about the impeachment trials in order spells "Epstein didn't kill himself"

in come the epstein trolls

happens every time

no, that is incorrect; an implosing a sequenced detonation starting which detonates the lower layer out of the way using the top mass to contain the debris

that isn't 'pancake theory' which suggests that the collapse of the higher levels CAUSE the collapse of the lower levels

ah I thought it meant that the structure was intentionally weakened

jimjordon2020

9/11 was a false flag but does it really matter? We arent going back to pre Patriot Act days so im always curious why people still debate it. I guess its like JFK assassination or any other good mystery. People cant let go

because it brings out the watchers

and I want information from them

I don’t think 9/11 was an inside job

nah, they suggest that a single floor or set of floors at the 74 level contained enough inertia that wheen it impacted the lower levels, collpased not just the fascade but consumed the support structure as well

Eh? The watchers?

an organization I would set up if in their positions

He's got my vote

@Ethreen42 Those are out of order

But hilarious

@D Two Hands, my response to that statment is that the conclusion is less important than the ability to utilitize evidence to make a definitative evaluation of what occured

MA any thoughts on the thermite cutting explanation? Those 45 degree angles are awfully strange

yeah, those aren't natural occurances

@D Two Hands Wasn't enough thermite residue

Fair point. Its a solid exercise in deductive skill and thats always good

There was enough in line with the materials of the drywall that would be similar though.

One reason someone might conclude that, but the simpler explanation makes way more sense.

the 45 degree angles only indicate SOME type of controled demolition

what they used is rather irrelevant

A freak thermite-esque reaction doesn't cut like thay though, it would leave holes not angles

Many things can be true at once:
Bin Laden organized and perpetrated 9/11
9/11 was not an inside job
The government is lying about 9/11
There are things we don’t know about 9/11

Thermite isn't explosive, it burns hot

All of that can be true at the same time.

@D Two Hands you are correct.

again, my personal opinion was that the buildings were rigged with a fail-safe after the '94 attack

@Scale_e You are correct.

@Scale_e and for some reason, people block you and attempt to lie about you in order to have you banned if you talk about just 1

the gov had evidence an attack MIGHT occur but no idea when

@ManAnimal this shit has been planned for a very long time

either a select few pulled the trigger knowing those precautions existed

@ManAnimal pearl harbor wasn't the first

Why a failsafe? The buildinga wouldnt have collapsed without the controlled demo so what is gained by that?

or it was a group taking advatange of an oppurtunty

@ManAnimal a group that set us down a path involving the american dollar

i mean, does anyone remeber trying to make a cell phone call in an airplane in 2001?

you got nothing but static

Basically impossible yes?

yet, all those phone calls

quantum entanglement, it exists

And how is QE relevant?

how can you make those phone calls on planes now?

not impossible, but also not consistent with the technology at the time

point is that it was either A) deception or B) incompetance

https://youtu.be/taa26IVpP4o?t=673

That's one curious fact

if the gov/military cannot stop a bunch of men in a cave flying commerical airlines, then we have been spending all this money to stop a soviet attack for nothing

One acto of good hearted rivalry brought two companies a lot of fame and business

As opposed to just court battles nobody would care about

either way, THEY FAILED to protect the country. Why should we trust them again?

@Uksio there is no competition anymore. The only advancement being done is in private and in government. Which I don't trust

Why would we trust them to begin with, they destroyed the republic decades before that as you pointed out some weeks ago

VERY TRUE, ralin

Competition is hard. Much easier to have an olygopoly!

the contractors have been given the responsibility of housing information and tech that is SUPPOSED to remain under control of the gov for reasons of accountability

That is until some rat will destroy it from the inside

Easier until you get assassinated <:tiptip:462282246695419934>

Bill gates and microsoft was the last holdout to the olygopoly

Only trust-based systems can persist

Block-chain disagrees

@Uksio That's why I trust you with my secrets

this new system of anti competition is actually necessary for stability, but it locks people such as myself out of it

people that make eurekas

besides, anyone who truly understands capitalism and markets realizes that competition depends on a freely floating interest rate

which incentizes when to save and when to invest

Mafia and govt being virtually the same, they differ in one crucial aspect
Because mafia is not based on common justice, it needs to be secretive.
And that secrecy can be destroyed by one single traitor.

forcing those WITH capital to absorb risk

Traitors are not as big of a threat to a govt (unless it's wartime)

Federal Reserve ruined that though

with a fixed low interest rate, it is more profitable to just move money around

@Uksio or someone that manages to influence one of the people that know about it 😉

Fucking jews...

someone able to figure the plan out

and those with money KEEP their money as all the labours are forced to aborb all the risk

outside of the plan

Jews are not the problem. Jews are the symptom.

Trust me

with the interest rate controlled by the Fed, all the money floats to the top

@Uksio is correct

hence the disparity between rich and poor getting worse

Finally, my bronchitis is cured. I can smoke weed again.

Yes jews are not THE problem. But theyre A problem

the system ALSO requires supplies and consumers to be subject to the SAME circumstances and ruls

that doesn't happen with globalism

Not THE jews, but specific ones.

Whats your analysis ofbthe cause then? Poorly structured society which allows their influence to penetrate?

@ManAnimal you get distracted, this is their intent

A lot of specific ones.

that is perhaps true

but inconclusive

@ManAnimal I never lose focus, i just dim it back. I want answers now though, i'm too old

me too, my friend

me too

Though seriously. Jews are exceptionally good at finding exploits.
And their culture is sociopathic* enough to allow them to use those exploits.
(*sociopathic by western culture standards)
Jews will play it safe on the legal side, but will use and abuse exploit wherever they can.

however, they are damn good at dividing our focus

It is not malice at play, nor any kabal or conspiracy.

Jews are an ally against communism

most would rather die than go RED

@Uksio some groups use power to bypass the laws

And if anything, west should pay attention to the jewish shenanigans and patch the exploits they use

that's conspiracy

jews have similar issues

feminism and corruption for one

don't judge alll by the behaviour of the head

I cant agree there. Its certainly not one giant conspirixy or cabal. But lots of things, like the Federal Reserve, are direct results of conspiricy by jewish cabals

@ManAnimal feminism is all part of the same group, metoo as well

@Ralin Storm point me to a saint that never have tried to bypass the law...

oh, it's rarely about centeralized conspiracy

@Uksio not possible, has to be done. They've gone too far though

more like manipulation of common incentive

Hekk a lot of yous probably j-walked and were speeding till there was a police or a speed camera in sight

@Uksio they've started harming more innocent than they help

Why would we remain in a reactive stance to this symptom, rather than proactive? Reactive stances have allowed for infiltration to devestatinf effect, over and over again

who?

@ManAnimal the puppeteers

@Ralin Storm Jews don't do it intentionally. They just don't care.
Your politicians on the other hand, they should care.

again, order especially on a massive scale, is RARELY the result of centralized contro

it is almost always a function of destributed incentive and oppurtunism

@Uksio I never blamed the juice, it's not the juice

Lol you are admitting it's inherent to their culture, and thats exactly why they must be judged as a whole. The risk of trusting one is not worth it

chaos ALLOWS any nefarious group to exploit

I mean how many "burglars" are you willing to murder for trespassing before you will realise that you don't have any fence?

the nefarious group don't nesscarily CAUSE the chaos

Jewish culture is something curious. It instructs them to be opportunistic exploiters.

it's just a matter of incentives that align

But it is not exactly an evil thing per se

@Uksio the society can exist without the male sacrifices being done

' opportunistic exploiters'? this is also known as the free market

Yup

i mean they are evil to goyms

Right, to be evil. They destroy trust, cause chaos, and deliberately subvert systems created in good faith

nothing wrong with the free market

no, that is not their doing

I want to be used as a moral compass for these people, they have lost theirs

they just take advantage

Sacrifices always need to be done.
The question is only what kind of sacrifices and how impactful

they arent just exploitive they are malevolent

but that is the same critique that Soviets had of the 'capitalist pigs'

now, people use the same logic on the Jew

funny, people never learn

we only exist today because of the malevolent actors

Yes, it is. Not exclusively but they are a huge part of the problem. Its wild to watch people make excuses for blatantly evil actions and chalk it up to "lol should have known better"

bs

they need me to bring us further

@D Two Hands there is not much good faith in backdoors that are unlocked for NSA and CIA, ready to be exploited

we only exist because of civil contract

that's a false security tato

Not only

thats not a security thats order

Civil contract is only one side of the dice

that enables any development

people believe it works, so it does

we only exist because good men refused to sit idly by and do nothing when nefarious actors tried to destroy what they valued

I totally agree we have to sort our own system first. But even a perfect system will continue to be assaulted by these groups who violate the trust they are freely given

ppl dont believe it works ppl agree to it and it works

and yet, men are being charged for rape when they sleep with a woman that regrets it later

it doesn't work

There is also law, there is also country as a unit that fights wars, there are also communities that make complex networks of interdependencies...

why doesn't it work?

men and women are two parts of a whole

Society is insanely complex
Do not make a mistake of reducing it to simple caricatures

Everyone just agreed only trust-based systems work. Why would you bring people who culturally, and by proxy genetically, lie and subvert the trust based system for short term personal gain? Its insane

if one operates at the expense of the other, the whole DIES

I said, society can still exist without the male sacrifices

these people have gone too evil

1st of all that situation isnt resolved yet and if it doesnt change it will break social contract. 2nd only small part of the society has agreed on men being jailed so its not really a civil contract its an exploit

the EASIEST was to start from scratch is to keep populations of the same ethnicity and background

but that is the HARDERST thing to acheive after the damage is already done

@ManAnimal that's why soviets could not persist
Their whole system was set to undermine the neighour
To pit people one-against-the-other internally (just so the inner part would not be the first obvious enemy)

can't get there from here

yes, and if we keep pointing the finger at the Jews or at thhe Boomers or others, NEITHER WILL WE

only the Muslims will

who don't tolerate cultrual dissent

You can point a finger at a jew standing in a gaping hole in your wall
But the hole won't be fixed when the jew leaves

true; and blame is less important than repair

men are supposed to handle the repair

leaving the blame to the women

we can't change this society @ManAnimal https://twitter.com/esaron/status/1192697711126036480?s=20

of course, men and women no longer work TOGETHER

correct; WE, as men cannot change this society

women got us into this

No, Im pointing at the hole that the jew bashed into my shared apartment wall, then told me it was funny and its my own fault for expecting him to be a civil neighbor. Why would i fix the hole while he still lives there and is telling me openly he will put a new hole somewhere else asap

women can get us out

women were just exploited

they aren't the cause

No, i call the management office and get him evicted.

otherwise, we destroy it ourselves

not much of a plan

no, women abused their freedom and neglected their duty

Except his mom and dad have a video of the office manager fucking a baby so he does nothing and tickets me for having a hole in my wall

to instill and safeguard our values into the children and raise daughters to demand a standard

some women have @ManAnimal but they've been exploited by people that know how to emotionally effect them

who hasn't?

Yeah, women should not have been given the vote.

again, blame is less important

no, changing things for the better is

and I'm making them do it

today, if a man focuses on what needs doing, he turns around to have the women let the fox into the hen house

no one can fight a battle when their flank and rear are exposed

Culpability may not be the most important thing, but are you really going to say it doesnt matter at all? Is justice not a key western value?

these "juice" need to get ahold of their rabid feminists and reign them in

no matter how superior their forward projection of force

Get a hold of them? They ARE them!

nope, the rabid fems are a weapon they use

correct; but that is a battle in the court of public opinion; a woman's world

And not just the rank and file, but the officers corps.

same goes for islam

however, conservative women by their very nature are not ones to speak out publically for fear of overshadowing conservtive men

so blue-hairs go unchallenged

only because no one is allowed to take the weapon down

Just like the Bolsheviks. The founders and thought leaders of feminism are overwhelmingly jewish

these people won't allow it

"we wuz caserz n sheeeeeeeit"

the internet is the weapon?

the internet created people like me

unintentional

so, remove the internet?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/476812313287065644/644335007896174605/202.gif

they need the internet

also created people like HER ^^^

they just try to silence me

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sol_Invictus

answer: remove internet? yes or no

no

disagree

internet is chaos

I want chaos

men don't need the internet NEARLY as much as the women

without the internet we wouldnt need to listen to MA rant

women don't respond well to isolation