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2019-11-04 06:57:04 UTC

you mean like a vet

2019-11-04 06:57:17 UTC

Yes but free :)

2019-11-04 06:57:21 UTC

pfft

2019-11-04 06:57:30 UTC

free dog healthcare now? jesus

2019-11-04 06:57:35 UTC

At this point I needsmust pass out. Cheers!

2019-11-04 06:57:42 UTC

next there will be free dog college

2019-11-04 06:57:54 UTC

Rather give free healthcare to dogs than illegal immigrants

2019-11-04 06:58:00 UTC

<:pot_of_kek:544849795433496586>

2019-11-04 06:58:18 UTC

@Laucivol cheers

2019-11-04 06:58:57 UTC

But I just want to post a photo and ask a question or two.

2019-11-04 07:01:41 UTC

<:spurdo:500782204788670474>

2019-11-04 07:03:12 UTC

Goodwood likes cat drone <:coolgon:549370575701803019>

2019-11-04 07:04:19 UTC

ill tell you what cracks me up

2019-11-04 07:04:22 UTC

the rationalwiki

2019-11-04 07:04:57 UTC

rationalwiki is utter shit

2019-11-04 07:05:09 UTC

why is there no dissidentwiki

2019-11-04 07:05:18 UTC

or somethin like that yo

2019-11-04 07:05:25 UTC

it's a buzzfeed opinion piece pretending to be a alternative to wikipedia

2019-11-04 07:05:49 UTC

its the site you can use to look up the leftist position on anything you discuss

2019-11-04 07:06:09 UTC

pretty much

wikipedia is already the leftist position

2019-11-04 07:07:12 UTC

thats why rationalwiki is hilarious to me.. its like... sooo far left

2019-11-04 07:07:28 UTC

but its presented as totally objective

2019-11-04 07:07:28 UTC

Its calm before the storm -Q

2019-11-04 07:07:43 UTC

Wikipedia atleast pretends to be unbiased

2019-11-04 07:07:51 UTC

Rationalwiki though...

2019-11-04 07:07:54 UTC

wew

2019-11-04 07:08:02 UTC

their section on gender is just peak <:pepelaugh:544857300179877898>

2019-11-04 07:08:23 UTC

Is tumblr abondon yet?

2019-11-04 07:09:15 UTC

Idk

2019-11-04 07:09:18 UTC

Gm.

2019-11-04 07:09:24 UTC

Too early

2019-11-04 07:09:52 UTC

nah wikipedia doesnt try to be unbiased lol

2019-11-04 07:10:00 UTC

especially when you go to their pages on people

2019-11-04 07:15:37 UTC

bahahaha

2019-11-04 07:15:41 UTC

see the site is hilarious

2019-11-04 07:15:59 UTC

they have cute infographics you can follow for all the useful idiots

2019-11-04 07:16:02 UTC

<:pepelaugh:544857300179877898>

now i have both this and guardian opinion article collages to destroy the left

2019-11-04 07:17:59 UTC

this page is just

2019-11-04 07:18:04 UTC

pffffffffftt

2019-11-04 07:18:21 UTC

The page is factually correct

t-posing skeleton

a **stiff boner**

2019-11-04 07:19:41 UTC

You know what I find interesting

2019-11-04 07:20:01 UTC

This server has 18k members buy the same 10 people are typing everyday

2019-11-04 07:20:17 UTC

ye the rest are all feds basically

2019-11-04 07:20:39 UTC

Not much illegal activity going on here

"Air capture technology to collect CO2ย is routinely used in spacecraft and submarines. However, it requires energy to operate and a 2011 study estimated that processing the whole atmosphere would not be cost-effective"

2019-11-04 07:32:14 UTC

liberals need to explain how crossing a border is not a negative right

2019-11-04 07:32:46 UTC

is it because it affects others

2019-11-04 07:32:50 UTC

Hey everyone howโ€™s you?

2019-11-04 07:32:53 UTC

how can that be explained though

2019-11-04 07:32:58 UTC

Hey lune.

2019-11-04 07:33:13 UTC

like it affects others indirectly, but i dont see how the affect is immediately negative

2019-11-04 07:33:25 UTC

it might be statistically negative, but you can use statistics to argue a lot of things

2019-11-04 07:33:44 UTC

like, you can use stats to say that negative rights are being infringed whenever someone farts (although I guess resolving that would be to take away someone's right not to have their bodily functions impinged, which would be a negative right in itself)

2019-11-04 07:34:29 UTC

And law needs to be dealt for that injustice

2019-11-04 07:34:31 UTC

Porous borders affect wages.
It's supply and demand for labor

2019-11-04 07:34:48 UTC

yeah the only way to prove that it affects wages is with stats

2019-11-04 07:35:11 UTC

you have to concede that a collective can claim ownership of an area, therefore can say that entering is a violation of their property rights

2019-11-04 07:35:15 UTC

Mind if I ask what were discussing?

2019-11-04 07:35:16 UTC

Not really. You can use logical deduction.

2019-11-04 07:35:20 UTC

but then you can just define anything as collectively owned

2019-11-04 07:35:50 UTC

its almost as though using a nebulous term like "rights" to justify your political/moral claims is fuckign autisting ๐Ÿค”

2019-11-04 07:35:51 UTC

inductive reasoning more like

2019-11-04 07:35:56 UTC

deduction is direct cause and effect

2019-11-04 07:36:08 UTC

wages don't immediately decline when there's immigration tho

2019-11-04 07:36:12 UTC

even though it does over time

2019-11-04 07:36:17 UTC

deduction is immediate cause and effect

2019-11-04 07:36:29 UTC

Your right to not be locked up ends when you commit a crime. Such as illegal border hopping.

2019-11-04 07:36:50 UTC

so why would border hopping be illegal? it's not a liberal principle but a nationalist one i guess

2019-11-04 07:37:09 UTC

you have to combine more than one ideology to have the state

2019-11-04 07:37:13 UTC

liberalism and civic nationalism

2019-11-04 07:37:33 UTC

Because itโ€™s about enforcing of law. If a border is open and a criminal escapes thatโ€™s hard to track and suffers rights of people, the reverse is true if a criminal enters.

2019-11-04 07:37:36 UTC

its more like any ideology taken to its autistic conclusion and ignoring pragmatism destroys any state

2019-11-04 07:38:14 UTC

You canโ€™t protect rights of people you donโ€™t know exist

2019-11-04 07:38:17 UTC

except fascism by design, but that then comes with its own issues

2019-11-04 07:38:27 UTC

youll still have a state yeah, just a failed one

2019-11-04 07:39:17 UTC

Liberal ideology requires laws to be followed. We get to vote on those laws to an extent.

If 75% of people in the USA wanted to decriminalize border crossing, it could be done.

Though you'd soon have no nation anymore

2019-11-04 07:39:35 UTC

liberal ideologies can fuck off tbh

2019-11-04 07:39:42 UTC

Fucking democracy.

2019-11-04 07:40:13 UTC

If democracy exists in a manner that allows its population to actively destroy the nation then it's fucked.

2019-11-04 07:40:43 UTC

Borders are simply the mechanism to protect from large negative influences usually from other countries. They help the democratic process in the native country, and they stop foreign often undemocratic powers from undermining the country.

2019-11-04 07:40:43 UTC

Heres one example of why a liberal might want to criminalize border hopping:

Human trafficking

2019-11-04 07:40:44 UTC

on a scale its being practiced rn its doomed to fail

2019-11-04 07:40:45 UTC

that's why there's a constitution that requires 75% majority to change

2019-11-04 07:41:01 UTC

so obviously they'd just criminalize human trafficking

2019-11-04 07:41:09 UTC

and then to justify enforcement, create ICE

2019-11-04 07:41:12 UTC

oh wait it already did

2019-11-04 07:41:21 UTC

Ah yeah and criminalising it would make it so easy to stop

2019-11-04 07:41:38 UTC

Itโ€™s already illegal in the UK an island with fairly strict immigration laws

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