Compare that to the average wall street income, it's litterally nothing.

>international finance and selling meaningless pieces of paper

The point of agriculture is to feed and prepare ourselves for whatever may come, and to be self sustaining. It just isn't enough to provide all income too.

@Willy welcome

People are free to have any occupation they choose, as long as they are contributing meaningfully to the community.

@Rin it depends on the local market. In my experience people will drive 2 hours one way to try to sell at my cities farmer's market. It may not be a great source of income, but it's better than nothing.

But the alternative isn't "nothing" kek..... It's other more lucrative jobs....

apiculture is also a good starter for farm/field driven people

We aren't fucking luddites.

Or Amish.

it's illegal to seccede from the USA

so no country

lmao

@Rin more than likely will be living far from any large city like portland or seattle. Land is too expensive buy near them. What kind of job are you gonna have that lets you take two weeks of in the spring to plant, two weeks in the fall to harvest and plenty of time inbetween watering and weeding. Either you live with us and work a 40hr/week in an office or you have a part time job that lets you take time off to work your fields.

Right.

a community is fine

an ethno-community is fine

As long as you don't make it a business thing

Why do you personally have to take care of all farm tasks? What is your family doing this whole time? What if you want to create infrastructure, or build things for a living? It's retarded to say that every member of the community must generate all his income through farming. It's just not even realistic, for several reasons.

>building a house with corn

kek

Can have a cellery front door.

i'll have a radish oven

Tomato doormat.

@Rin what i'm saying is that most of the people on this server either work min wage jobs or are neets. The few people who don't, work in IT and we won't have internet when this is first started. If you wanna commute an hour a day to a city go ahead. Just don't complain about a nigger mugging you on your walk to your car.

you can work from home

My parents live off grid

and they own a business

think outside the box

"work from home for 5k a day"

no

One of the goals here, it to bring people out of NEET status. And there's lots of ways to make a living without a commute.

NEET?

Address the problem not the symptom.

What is NEET?

not employed, educated or trained

Ahh

n.e.e.t.

NOrthern European Estates and Territories

the name of my empire later in life

Right that to

The NEET

Stuff like woodworking is do able without internet, IT work isn't one of those jobs.

^

The NEET. So kinda like The urkaine

Also, as an aside, all those "exotic" crops you mentioned, are generally "exotic" for a reason, they generally require special environments to grow.

What is IT work

Internet?

i feel like people should be pulled away from the internet and its constant simulation

kk

Just ditch the phone dude

Also, if you own land

live off your own food

have your own shelter

you technically don't need money

or a job

other than taxes

You will still need money. Mostly for healthcare.

true

Specialty procedures, things that local doctors can't do.

have a doctor live with you

But additionally there will be tons of creature comforts you will need money for, for example, I highly doubt we will be producing playstations, or TVs, or blenders, or refrigerators.....

I could go on.

solar panels and water wheels for basic electronics

>coolers

>possibly a/c

>lights

@Rin those kiwis I posted are native to siberia, so I think we can grow them. the reason most people don't grow those crops is because they aren't the super improved monsanto frankenstiens. you could grow something like this http://www.rareseeds.com/glass-gem-corn-/ and charge an arm and a leg to the city dwelling hipsters.

lmao

So you think aa commute to the city is out of the question for a job, but you are fine with it to sell fruit?

You don't need electricity to make coolers

i'd prefer to avoid society

@Lorenzo ?

I've lived for about two years without a refrigerator

Once a week is fine. Driving 40 mintutes one way each day isn't.

it's possible to control temperature inside a given envinronment

thick walls

i'll have just like a log cabin n shit

not too much in terms of walls lol

So?

Dig a hole

Add a step ladder into it

Board up the walls so it's not all dirt

and you have a cold box, if you do it well

You could fill it with snow during winter and you have a natural freezer for a good few months

also salting food is a good way to preserve food

40 mins one way each day is not even that bad...

You can make a greenhouse with pvc and greenhouse plastic.

Even in CA I know people who have worse than that.

right

People depend on electricity way too much today

It's all about relearning

what our ancestors knew

mhm

>tfw mexican has right idea for once

@Rin I'm aware, I have a 30 minute one way right now. I'd rather be doing something useful than be stuck in the car. Youre in CA so you don't have to deal with snow. that stuff fucks up commuting bad.

Dude, Spics and Nogs hate each other more than.. Pretty much anything

mhm