Message from @Rin

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2017-09-25 00:49:48 UTC  

We aren't isolationist economically, many of us will likely have jobs in the general population. And there will of course be things that we must buy outside as well.

2017-09-25 00:50:09 UTC  

i think if industry is on the table we should produce products from the land with the help of some machines / methods of procesing

2017-09-25 00:50:51 UTC  

maybe

2017-09-25 00:54:55 UTC  

We'll want all skillsets, blue and white collar. Especially those in finance. Agriculture doesn't make money anymore unless it's huge in scale.

2017-09-25 00:55:10 UTC  

It's great for self sustenance though.

2017-09-25 00:55:52 UTC  

well since i'm going into carpentry

2017-09-25 00:55:56 UTC  

we could sell like

2017-09-25 00:55:58 UTC  

tables n shit

2017-09-25 00:56:13 UTC  

cool ass wooden statues

2017-09-25 00:56:16 UTC  

all kinds of stuff

2017-09-25 00:56:21 UTC  

Trade skills are especially useful.

2017-09-25 00:56:54 UTC  

@Rin People at the farmers market in my city sell organic hierloom tomatoes for $4.00 a pound. Agriculture prices depend on where you are in the nation.

2017-09-25 00:57:14 UTC  

Yes, people do buy them.

2017-09-25 00:58:35 UTC  

organic foods are very good profit, especially if you become a well known regional brand

2017-09-25 00:59:35 UTC  

@dmac100 And how many pounds do you think you can produce?

2017-09-25 01:00:34 UTC  

5000 pounds?

2017-09-25 01:00:46 UTC  

Hell, 50,000 pounds?

2017-09-25 01:01:12 UTC  

Thats 200k a season, IF you sell everyone and lose none to disease.

2017-09-25 01:01:52 UTC  

That's enough for maybe 3 families per year if they are stretching it.

2017-09-25 01:01:53 UTC  

It would depend on the amount and quality of land I have. The real money is in growing things people have never heard of, like this https://www.starkbros.com/products/berry-plants/kiwi-berry-vines/anna-hardy-kiwi

2017-09-25 01:02:48 UTC  

Compare that to the average wall street income, it's litterally nothing.

2017-09-25 01:03:36 UTC  

>international finance and selling meaningless pieces of paper

2017-09-25 01:04:17 UTC  

2017-09-25 01:04:18 UTC  

The point of agriculture is to feed and prepare ourselves for whatever may come, and to be self sustaining. It just isn't enough to provide all income too.

2017-09-25 01:04:27 UTC  

@Willy welcome

2017-09-25 01:06:10 UTC  

People are free to have any occupation they choose, as long as they are contributing meaningfully to the community.

2017-09-25 01:06:19 UTC  

@Rin it depends on the local market. In my experience people will drive 2 hours one way to try to sell at my cities farmer's market. It may not be a great source of income, but it's better than nothing.

2017-09-25 01:07:56 UTC  

But the alternative isn't "nothing" kek..... It's other more lucrative jobs....

2017-09-25 01:08:22 UTC  

apiculture is also a good starter for farm/field driven people

2017-09-25 01:08:56 UTC  

We aren't fucking luddites.

2017-09-25 01:09:01 UTC  

Or Amish.

2017-09-25 01:12:13 UTC  

it's illegal to seccede from the USA

2017-09-25 01:12:14 UTC  

so no country

2017-09-25 01:12:15 UTC  

lmao

2017-09-25 01:12:18 UTC  

@Rin more than likely will be living far from any large city like portland or seattle. Land is too expensive buy near them. What kind of job are you gonna have that lets you take two weeks of in the spring to plant, two weeks in the fall to harvest and plenty of time inbetween watering and weeding. Either you live with us and work a 40hr/week in an office or you have a part time job that lets you take time off to work your fields.

2017-09-25 01:12:21 UTC  

Right.

2017-09-25 01:12:21 UTC  

a community is fine

2017-09-25 01:12:38 UTC  

an ethno-community is fine

2017-09-25 01:12:47 UTC  

As long as you don't make it a business thing

2017-09-25 01:14:27 UTC  

Why do you personally have to take care of all farm tasks? What is your family doing this whole time? What if you want to create infrastructure, or build things for a living? It's retarded to say that every member of the community must generate all his income through farming. It's just not even realistic, for several reasons.

2017-09-25 01:15:06 UTC  

>building a house with corn