a weak outlook you have

No they should, but not outright with force

lol

I see that as unethical

well, your ethics are weak

Probably, but that’s what they are. I think it’s ethically wrong to make the first violent strike

any ethics that dont allow for self-defense are pacifistic and thus worthless

You don't believe in pre-emptive self defense?

That’s different, I support self defense.

you are saying that in sa they cant react to the threat

thats an example of self defense

What’s sa?

they may want to defend their property and livelihood

what's going on here

south africa?

Oooooh

What's going on in here I heard South Africa

South African land reform, heard of it?

eeeee

Yeah I have I didn’t know that’s what we were talking about

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-08-28/land-confiscations-loom-south-africa-rules-300000-gun-owners-turn-over-their

Tyranny of the majority

take farm and take gun so whitey can't fight back

``even though we outnumber whitey``

tfw you outnumber and outgun the SA whites but you're still scared they can put up a fight so you take their shit

chiang kai shek is a woke username

That's what your position is. @Griselda

Chinese Nationalists were pretty alright

they fought commies and no one really helped them(except Germany) until post ww2 when everyone finally realized the Soviets were fucking gay.

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@campodin they should fight back, I’m not saying they shouldn’t. But I’m saying they likely won’t win. The SA gov is the bad guy clearly, so the farmers are right to fight back

is 1st world teenagers arguing for authoritarian ideologies

government should provide for the security of its citizens

@Alice Redacted my favorite thing is people jacking off to Oriental cartoons

And their freedom

@Griselda but hey majority rules, bitch. Fighting back is against democracy

Not just security

SA is not a democracy

@campodin

😂

fight democracy now

**>supporting majority rule**

You just don't get it

Majority rule is against people like us because they indoctrinate kids to vote for them in school

@King Leopold II that's Griselda's position

bullshit

@campodin that's happened you autist

wait wdym people like us?

T h e r o i g h t

I’m just going to outright admit I joined this convo misunderstanding what we were taking about.

Oh wait you're a communist @21tagtmeiern

nah

*Then what are you*

schools don't indoctrinate against the right

@Griselda democracy the God that died of aids

@21tagtmeiern
😬

When was the last time you were in school pal

also i'm a normal Democrat

last time I was in school was 3 hours ago

College?

@Griselda yeah, and when you hold stupid positions like majority rules you realize it sounds really bad when it doesn't go your way.

Put in the wrong context

my history teacher was being super conservative today

man I wish I had that

where do you even live

in case you couldn't tell from the pfp i'm in high school

West coast is hell

I didn’t mean to convey that I believed majority rule was always right, just that it will always happen

Every city is fucking corrupted with leftist parasites

@Griselda no it does not

i go to a texan private school so i can see how that might be different

Lucky you

cities are fucked out here

Teacher actually brought politics and religion into class and no one did jack shit

they were anti religion

Look at the middle East. Many of the dictators were from the minority population @Griselda

And made us do a debate about guns

and it was fucking English

Fucking English class

@Griselda communists were never the majority in any country they took over

if you can connect it to the course it's all good imo

@Griselda monarchy is not majority rule either

Fair, I’m just wrong here

Majority rule is only a problem in democracy and revolution/riots

So are you arguing democracy is wrong?

yes

Absolutely

I’m of the opinion it’s one of the greatest tools we have, now without attacking me, I want to know why you think that. I’m legit curious

y is it the most successful ideology then?

I like republicanism, that is mixed government which includes limited democratic elements

<@&452955168099532800> are lewd avatars allowed

the fact that you used the word lewd means please don't

If so please warn/ban @Alice Redacted

oh thought you were asking for yourself lol

Democracy on its own leads to factionalism (a prime target for leftist revolution), incessant growth of government bureaucracy, and devaluing of public discourse to the lowest common denominator

I’ve never heard of a single democracy leading to a leftist revolution

eh, fuck off

idc if they're not allowed

and I mean

Griselda

Are you a girl

have you heard of

Keep it civil

*The Weimar Republic*?

and yeh

I am

No I haven’t

Germany before Nazis

Not surprised

>I haven't

Did you vote.

vote blackshirt party or your gay

>doesn’t know something
>admits it
>still gets insulted for it

As long as no nips or vagene i dont care

Everyone has nipples wtf

@Griselda Nazis basically came to power as a response to the growing communism

Showing in the pic

you should fuckin know about everything I know about or you're a fucking subhuman brainlet and have no business discussing what we are discussing

Oh sorry

You typed that like you were telling a joke but you were literally one of the people that did it

shutup you gay jew

You thought I was joking?

I’m not Jewish or gay

Well what you typed was so laughably absurd I respect your intellect enough to assume it was humor

But seriously you should at least have a decent idea about what the Weimar Republic was

I’ll look into it

good

I’ve never heard of it

It gives context for the Nazi's rise in Germany

guys literally only want one thing and its disgusting

*pepe troll face*

A qt3.14 trad trap asian mommy goth big tiddy gf

wait

guess what

im a guy

Why would you want to conquer northern mexico?

<:Dude:459545653031469068>

We already have New Mexico why would we want to take the old ones

because it looks cool on a map

It's just all crappy dessert, Cartels, and the lowest IQ of Mexicans

we can just kick them out

desert*

and desert has oil

cause i'm too tired to address the racism

Why is everyone hyper focused on IQ all the time here

Whatever, I'm on my phone

cause it proves that the whites are superior of course

to clarify that's sarcasm usually that would be obvious but not here

IQ is a proxy and predictor for other more important traits

IQ is an arbitrary test to get a general understanding of your spacial and mathematical understanding skills not your worth as a person. There are other traits that determine how “worthy” of a person you were

Lol

Holding standards for people is fine but solely IQ is

Strange

Like I said it is a strong predictor for other traits, and thus serves as a good proxy for them

Alright

iq is not that important except as objective proof that people are not equal

and that there is a racial correlation is remarkable as well

one of the "big lies" of the left is that everyone is the same

"we are all pink inside"

thats like saying a pitbull and a cairne terrior are compatible matches

it has no logic

not everyone is the same

It's a good predictor of wealth and criminality too

No two people are “the same”

and not all leftists think that

what about deleuze?

no they dont

but

they think that "if we just have one more leftist program" then everyone will have the same potential

@21tagtmeiern correlations aren’t causations

Ooops

Tagged wrong person

@campodin

@21tagtmeiern i am speaking about mainstream leftists, and mainstream leftist thinking

why name someone who isnt even influential among the left?

i'm a mainstream leftist

according to you

but it's true that most of us are scared to talk about race

thats because leftists whole ideology is based on the premise that people should/are/ought-to-be equal

its egalitarianism taken to the furthest degree

i believe in equality of opportunity

then you arent a mainstream leftist

you are a left-moderate at most

mainstream leftists believe in equality of outcome

i also believe in giving everyone what they need to live

@Griselda never said they were

but not complete equality of outcome

who gives? who has the authority to seize the harvest of a farmer?

why is that fair?

who is going to work the fields without compensation?

is that likely to lead to bigger yields, or less?

1. the government to both

2. cause everyone survives, maybe it's not totally fair but idc

3. there will be compensation

4. idk that's debatable

4 isnt really a debate. it will decrease the yields. There is a huge body of evidence for this from all the countries that have tried it. Second of all, food is extremely cheap in america under capitalism. You can buy 50 lbs of rice for like 20 bucks. Anyone working at mcdonalds can make that much money in an afternoon and eat rice for months

so whats the problem?

who decides "what a person needs to live"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_League_(United_States)

what if i want a jacuzzi?

gay nazis

what if i want a dog?

vs communist jews

who wins

what if i want a mansion? can the government give me one, please?

also blamed aids on communists and jews

a diet of rice isn't humane

you don't need a fucking mansion to live

its a staple food in most of the world

you need a bed and a roof

you can't just eat rice

and you missed the point if you have months worth of rice for a few hours of work, you can easily add in other meats and so on along with it without much trouble at all

that causes severe and debilitating malnutrition

but again, realize that in your system the person who decides "what a person needs to live" has essentially total power over the country

how does this get established?

not one person

what if they decide we dont need cancer treatments

and don't use slippery slope

what if they decide it makes sense to cut off life support whenever someone falls unconscious

what slippery slope?

history teaches us that slippery slope is not a fallacy

"yeah but if gays get to marry its not like transexuality or pedophilia is going to be the next quest"

said some guy 10 years ago

10 years? They said that 5 years ago

transexuality is legitimate tho

Hahaha

not gonna support pedophilia but that won't get legalized

transexuality is illegetimate

they are anti science

show me your science

men have dicks girls have vagina

wow thanks your knowledge on the psychology of being trans is astounding

i dont care arrest people for being mental

there is no other word but mental disablity for trans people

imagine being that dylusional

you obviously have a dick

what's so bad about that tho?

its insane they need help if they are that ill and ashamed of themselves they need help why do you think they kill themselves.

i got one trans dude to become proud of being a male

hes no longer trans

i think its just a symptom of depression

no the depression comes from the societal stigma and pressure

Transgenderism is a disorder. They need medical help, not sympathy

no i mean theres some people who are depressed and look for deeper meaning and feel that they are wrong physically

being trans is a result of them feeling they are wrong physically

no its the result of having a brain more like the gender opposite to the one you were born as