before we ever make the investments into a universal healthcare system, i think it would be more morally virtuous for society to orchestrate some increased level of welfare for proximate nonhuman animals

a life of suffering in the wild is a depressing paradox

yeah, we had foxes, racoons, and coyotes where I'm from, roosters can't do much against that lol

We have all those here too

But the roosters fought in packs and we had guns and everything smelled like humans

You only really have to kill a few coyotes for them to decide your property is not for them to hippity hoppity

The human scent on everything was probably the biggest deterrent though

Also we locked them in a coup at night and those shits hunt at night

I guess mine were just more aggressive because the scent was not a deterrent

That’s probably it. Where I live you could flick a snake and it would apologize and give you its lunch money

They’re teeth can’t even break the skin

They just lunge at you then dangle from you by their teeth

oh wow

Depending on your location @Alexander Ramsey your coyotes may have dog or wolf blood in them. This can cause them to be more brave around humans and aggressive.

I think we should have state-based, single-payer affordable healthcare. It would essentially be a state-facilitated savings that is linked to a card that is only usable at medical facilities. That said, medical facilities could range from modern to natural, and western to eastern. Its about personal preference. The state would also reward those that stay healthy by doubling one's savings if they can go 5 years without a major medical incident.

Well, maybe not *every* 5 years

But the deets aren't important

tldr

@everyone Daily Question 🔖
Should local government have more power or should the national government have more power?

Which powers are more appropriate for each?

national

National

The president should have total control

if the regional gov has more power than you are pretty much going to make the HRE

No u

Libtard

national

this question is too black/white

Local government since National can generate regionalism issues

That's what the world is like @Deleted User

Welcome to reality

lmao, the world is definitely not black and white

It is

Black and white

and asian¨

@leftist npc man you just demonstrated that you're a fag in <#452955220473806859>

gg

I was being serious

but okay, turn it into a joke

Regional should have in general more power, but the national government still needs some

Local

Especially in a politically divided country like the US

Regionalism is gay

Big gay

If Cali wants to ban straws, that's on them. Don't need a federal law for that

The national govt should be the final power regarding the things it has jurisdiction over, but that should be it.

Certain issues should be belong to each domain

I think a good rule of thumb is to have things taken care of at the lowest level possible

Where to put a sidewalk? Easily a town council

National defense? Only way for it to effectively work is at the national level

A good mix I think. The two should start to see themselves as mutually dependent to create nationhood. Communities are nothing without a common national identity, and nations are nothing without communities as building blocks.

I think there should be a strong central government, but it really depends on the country

Indeed.

Oh great we got Jill Stein mixed with Adolf Hitler

Sounds hot

I'm NazBern

Hippie Mussolini

QOTD: Is a blue wave likely in the 2018 midterms? @everyone

nah

no tbh fam

doubt

No

No way

meh

depending if the left plays their cards right

the ideas of modern liberalism might appeal

We said that with Rick Saccone. With Roy Moore.

when will we know btw?

What

@Earl of Morrrrgantown

I don't follow us politics that closely

I know special elections aren't a good indicator but still, its fucking insane to see a state Trump won by 30 points go blue in the Senate Special Election

This midterm is more important than the 2016 election

We cannot win unless every single adult in this server registers and votes

What

The fuck are you talking about lmao

@Deleted User Are you registered to vote?

If not, you are the problem.

"you are the problem"

Lol

I will be voting Republican

You act like Saccone and Moore mean something

Saccone was a weak candidate that lost to a Blue Dog in a Blue Dog District

Every special elections except The Texas One flipped dramatically

Okay

And

@Earl of Morrrrgantown there are only 2 senate seats dems could win

Dozens republicans could

If you are some how blown away by that, you don't pay attention to us politics

@Da_Fish I think the GOP will flip several senate seats but it's likely the Dems could flip the house

No

Republicans will keep it by a small margin

What seats can the GOP flip

Tell me

And reps blow away senate

@Deleted User Montana, North Dakota, West Virginia, Indiana, Michigan, New Jersey

Etc

@Deleted User Missouri, Indiana, Florida, North Dakota, New Jersey, WV, MT

Montana no

WV no

Joe Manchin is basically a Republican

Yes, I know Jon Tester/Manchin are popular

NJ is almost impossible

No

I live here

@Deleted User no

Don't fucking tell me

Hugin can win.

Bob Menendez will lose

Lol

Okay

I fucking lived in NJ as well

Fullop won’t support him

Hugin raises much more money

Dream about Rino Hugin

And a nobody got 38% of the primary vote

Hell even most Republicans don't like him

Some lady is running an as true MAGA candidate lol

At least he will vote republican

Independent

Yeah, tester might not be liked by this side of the state

John Testicle has a good chance of losing

@Isolated Bishop I think the debates could end Tester. Its unlikely but possible

There are a half dozen scheduled

He will win

ND is likely though

The Problem is, is that the GOP runs shit candidates in states we need to get into our wing

My prediction is Florida, ND, NJ and IN

The Rust Belt Candidates are weak

The Michigan guy could win

No

The Black Iraq vet

Against Stab me now

Stabenow hehe

Michigan will not flip, neither will PA

Ohio and Wisconsin people are alright

Minnesota will not flip for Senate

Lol no

The hell does that mean "lol no"

OH, PA, WI AND MI will not flip

But MN might

That is such a terrible claim lmfao

http://www.270towin.com/2018-senate-election/8qQ608

Prediction

Could see AZ going blue

WV is not flipping

Ohio and Wisconsin we might have a shot in

You sure those coal miners won’t be marching to the polls?

http://www.270towin.com/2018-senate-election/aMQ74a

Manchin is a Blue Dog Dem who backs Trump

The R running in WV is also weak

That's why I view it as a toss up

Virginia will be eh

Stewart will not win but I would like to see the results

@Deleted User votes against repeal of Obamacare

@Earl of Morrrrgantown did you join that server I linked you

>backs trump

@Da_Fish what

Yeah he was considered being the Energy Sec under Trump

He is a moderate

Manchin has an “A” from the NRA

Exactly

Could Stabenow lose?

To a black Iraq vet and businessman

Nah

Trump isn't that Popular in Michigan and James is eh

I think Tina Smith could lose

Read this

But he probably has enough supporters to the west to keep his spot

Trump net approval among Rust Belt Working-class Whites:
Ohio: +7
Pennsylvania: +3.1
Wisconsin: -4
Michigan: -6.1
Minnesota -8.4

But he's not unstoppable

@Deleted User citation needed

Oh your those one of guys

"fake news"

Lots of special elections were big memes

Is that from CNN

No tard

Literally retarded repub candidates

Or cook pvi

Women lead men by 6 points(53% to 47%) Yet in the census, they lead by .5 points

with the worst fucking PR

@Deleted User yep

In the Emerson poll of Tina Smith be the likely GOP Nominee

Like suicidal candidates

that lost nearly on purpose

I wouldn't put much thought into the special elections

They run retarded candidates

The reason why PA-18 flipped was because Dems ran a WWC Blue Dog Dem and Republicans ran a weak faggy guy

With his Asian wife and mixed kids

In Arizonas 8th district, while the GOP won by 6 points, it was still a 16 point flip

@Deleted User

K

What does this mean

Blue Wave

It's over

However, in Texas, a strong Ron Paul supporting GOP Candidate won with nearly 60% of the vote, a mere 2 point fiip from 2016

@Deleted User The candidates are what matters.

The GOP has been running some pretty shitty one's tho

Literally what I have been saying

Vermont has a republican nominee, wow

I mean, plus Bernie

A blue wave isn’t even remotely likely. I’m not saying there will be a red wave either. But I think republicans will do slightly better. But if something wild happens, of course, all bets are off.

If I were GOP I would be hoping for a Blue Wave

then when the recession hits within the next 2-3 years the Dems get blamed and GOP is in power for another 10 years

@everyone Daily Question 🔖

What does your midterm senate map look like? Feel free to make one at https://www.270towin.com

http://www.270towin.com/maps/nm97k

@Da_Fish @Deleted User that’s the Presidential not the Senate map

@Patriot Thats just the website link

make one

Ok but after church gtg

oh

http://www.270towin.com/2018-senate-election/8rzpj8

arizona will be red

http://www.270towin.com/2018-senate-election/aR4ej8

Mein final solution map.

why is mo blue

My map

My mum's friend actually won the primary for state rep for Windham District 1!

She's pretty cool

She's a democrat who's very community oriented and against partisan divides

Check out this based governor candidate in VT

Biography of my favorite Vermont politician:
JOHN S. RODGERS of Glover, Orleans County, Democrat, was born on July 29, 1965, in Saint Johnsbury, Vermont. John was raised in Glover on the family dairy farm; he was the fifth generation to grow up on the farm. He graduated from Sacred Heart, Newport, VT, (1983) and from New Hampshire Vocational Technical College, Berlin, NH, (Associates Degree 1985). After college John started a construction business, JS Rodgers Masonry Inc., specializing in dry stonework and excavation. He served eight years in the VT House of Representatives; he was the Collector of Delinquent Taxes for many years in Glover and coached youth soccer. He is a member of the NRA, Barton Area Chamber of Commerce, and served as the Director to Shadow Lake Association, Glover, VT. In 2008, John received the Crime Victim Service Award. He is married to Brenda Rodgers, a nurse at the NVR Hospital, and they have two boys.
“When I was young it seemed like that people who moved here, moved here because they loved it here and they embraced our values and our heritage, and didn’t want to change them,” he said. “It seems now like we’ve been overpopulated by people for different reasons and aim to take much of that away.”

@V-NAF_Aardist

dude is shhe votingg for the wall

thats all i care about and im not even american

Wdym?

And she's a state rep not a congresswoman

She represents West Brattleboro and serves in Montpelier. She's not at a national level

is she repub

No, democrat. But democrats are different in Vermont. Look up John Rodgers for example

JOHN S. RODGERS of Glover, Orleans County, Democrat, was born on July 29, 1965, in Saint Johnsbury, Vermont. John was raised in Glover on the family dairy farm; he was the fifth generation to grow up on the farm. He graduated from Sacred Heart, Newport, VT, (1983) and from New Hampshire Vocational Technical College, Berlin, NH, (Associates Degree 1985). After college John started a construction business, JS Rodgers Masonry Inc., specializing in dry stonework and excavation. He served eight years in the VT House of Representatives; he was the Collector of Delinquent Taxes for many years in Glover and coached youth soccer. He is a member of the NRA, Barton Area Chamber of Commerce, and served as the Director to Shadow Lake Association, Glover, VT. In 2008, John received the Crime Victim Service Award. He is married to Brenda Rodgers, a nurse at the NVR Hospital, and they have two boys.
“When I was young it seemed like that people who moved here, moved here because they loved it here and they embraced our values and our heritage, and didn’t want to change them,” he said. “It seems now like we’ve been overpopulated by people for different reasons and aim to take much of that away.”

NRA member Traditionalist democrat

Last of the Blue Dogs?

Then why the hell is he a democrat?

Oh that's right he supports obamacare... and government involvement in the economy in the same manner the democrats do...

many areas are one party control

Regardless of your actual view on the issues you have to run in that party to win

@V-NAF_Aardist Vermont has gone down the drainpipe, move to NH or Maine

We need a one party system.. fucking democrats keep running

ik

it needs to stop

One party wtf

We need more parties

And of course one of the main parties keep running

We need no parties