and while our goals can be rather self-centered it helps the people that we do it to generally

Most importantly Korea and Japan

America established a dictatorship in Korea though. As well as Vietnam.

germany

and they only worked there because the populations were ready for it in my opinion

well Germany was already a functioning society

we helped re-establish what they already had

and we did rebuild europe

America has established countless dictatorships when it could get away with it. Obviously you can't replace a dictatorship with a dictatorship. As a PR move from the world's police it doesn't work.

Exactly

I don't support that

But that's consistent American policy.

Yes it is

Like in Korea.

And I do not support it

However it can work and can end up being positive

But you do support realpolitik, which inevitably leads to foreign policy moves like supporting dictators.

It's playing with fire.

And I will remind you that we have every right to depose communist dictators across the globe

Which communist dictators?

Not in modern times

but back when we did that kind of stuff

We had every reason to

Actually in South America it was the habit of America to overthrow democratically elected socialist leaders who pretended to be communist to secure funding from the USSR by supporting anti-communist paramilitary organizations.

good

Or just plain out direct military intervention.

If they choose the enemy's side then they get what they deserve

They knew what would happen and still went through with it. Their fault.

But it was worse for the host countries. They got corrupt military juntas instead of democratically elected leaders who could have helped their country instead of selling out national interests to the MIC.

sucks to be a commie bastard

What's with you and meme answers? You sound like a boomer.

Had they sided with us from the start we wouldn't have needed to install dictators and we oculd have given them aid

I am the sooper boomer

i am pro-contianment

Who would side with America? The world hates America for a reason.

False

Or they did before they all got paid off or overthrown. 😎

America was generally loved until we got involved in them middle east

Generally loved by South America?

Except by commie bastards

There was time where our relations were generally friendly

Before the dictators, yeah.

but they chose the losing side in the cold war and got what comes to losers

Destructive American policy that just serves geopolitical goals and corporate interests.

It serves the interest of freedom

Haha they really had what was coming to them using a functional democracy! America fuck yeah!

They elected commies

Socialists, you mean.

Hitler was elected too

socialists, communists, same thing.

Hitler bullied his way into gaining power in the Reichstag if you know anything. To say he was "elected" to the position of fuhrer would be a stretch.

Socialism isn't the same thing as communism, but that's a hard pill to swallow for willfully ignorant boomers.

It is not the same thing

they are very different

but socialism is a stepping stone for communist take over

Name a socialist state that "slipped" into communism.

As far as I know they only abandon it. See: Vietnam, China, even Cuba recently.

Three is three too many

And all of those socialist countries started as pro-USSR

Three countries abandoning communism is a bad thing? You'd rather they maintain those goals?

which makes them anti-USA

You see things as very black and white when anything more than a cursory understanding of the Cold War is much more complex.

But you don't have to have an understanding of history to be a neoimperialist.

Otherwise you'd realize how dumb it is.

hes a hardcore protestant esoteric boomer

I understand that in reality people can be in a gray area

but in practice we can not allow that

Like Gaddafi.

you can not be supportive of us and our greatest enemy

Gaddafi unironically was based and was victimized because he identified as a socialist even though in reality he was third position and anti-USSR.

If they wish to be neutral let them be neutral but siding with the USSR is not neutrality

Gaddafi=woke change my mind

I believe that the middle east needs dictators for the time being honsetly

the opposite position isnt true though I dont support US or their enemies

That is true neutrality

So they can be controlled and guided to democracy? Yes. That is the foreign policy lie used during the Cold War.

and that is fine

Guess how rich and functional and not corrupt South American democracies are?

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they are largely socialistic

and Chile is doing quite well comparatively

Oh comparatively.

Venezuela is a socialist utopia

compared to the rest of South America yes

I don't think anyone takes Venezuela seriously, not even before Chavez died.

thair the NK of the americas

He just squandered oil revenue on social programs. Any sensible economist knows you have to diversify.

And oil is a volatile market good.

So it was just a matter of time. He was a fucking moron.

they made an oil backed crypto currency then exit scammed it

none of us serious investers bought in it was only the idiots that bet on everything

Socialism gone wrong (NSFW) (NOT CLICKBAIT)

>implying it can go right

Can't go right when you have a populist clown like Chavez in charge.

@εïз irma εïз the American press took Venezuela very seriously when Chavez was around.

Who takes the American press seriously?

That is a good point.

But they did have a Chavez boner

Well liberals are just as eager to hop onto something without knowing anything about it as confirmation of their beliefs as the right is.

So, Communists are anti imperialists and, but materialistic as well. So, if they reject any sort of religion in favor of even more materialism, would that lead to the conquering of land for resources?
Isn't that imperialism then?
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