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2018-09-07 21:46:51 UTC

magna carta, ever heard of it?

2018-09-07 21:46:52 UTC

@Summī Imperator, 呪い殿 well when a king goes mad...

2018-09-07 21:47:00 UTC

Seeing as the decline came after.

2018-09-07 21:47:18 UTC

That's what generals are for?

2018-09-07 21:47:29 UTC

@campodin magna carta doesnt say "queen cant start world war 3"

2018-09-07 21:47:47 UTC

it just says she cant violate rights of her people

2018-09-07 21:47:54 UTC

declaring war isnt violation

2018-09-07 21:48:30 UTC

well, nothing is stopping her now according to you either

2018-09-07 21:48:44 UTC

no thats nto what i said

2018-09-07 21:48:50 UTC

i said she would get overthrown now causing ti to happen anyway

2018-09-07 21:49:03 UTC

if she did it back then shed get away with it

2018-09-07 21:49:11 UTC

"like legit, the queen could start a WWIII at any time if she wanted"

2018-09-07 21:49:21 UTC

"of course shed likely get overthrown if she started a WWIII but her being overthrown would likely cause it aswell"

2018-09-07 21:49:23 UTC

She could declare it

2018-09-07 21:49:35 UTC

I don't know about start.

2018-09-07 21:49:43 UTC

this all started because you thought the queen had no power

2018-09-07 21:49:45 UTC

i said she does

2018-09-07 21:49:46 UTC

and she does

2018-09-07 21:49:55 UTC

her governing instead of pm, wouldn't change that

2018-09-07 21:49:56 UTC

The Queen does have power.

2018-09-07 21:50:12 UTC

shed have more power if she governed as pm

2018-09-07 21:50:14 UTC

That's the fact of the matter.

2018-09-07 21:50:20 UTC

Hahaha

2018-09-07 21:50:23 UTC

because then shes the sole political and religous/celebratory leader

2018-09-07 21:50:26 UTC

She would just be the Queen still

2018-09-07 21:50:33 UTC

Not PM

2018-09-07 21:50:44 UTC

I said get rid of pm

2018-09-07 21:50:59 UTC

the pm is the political leader

2018-09-07 21:51:00 UTC

Nah

2018-09-07 21:51:29 UTC

PM is the guy that controls the civilians and Commons.

2018-09-07 21:51:29 UTC

the queen is a celebratory leader with limited dictatorship like abilities

2018-09-07 21:51:45 UTC

your talking about the prime minister right?

2018-09-07 21:52:09 UTC

the prime minister has taken the place of the queen in the lives of uk citizens and the commonwealth

2018-09-07 21:52:09 UTC

if he controls the citizens and gov, hes the political leader

2018-09-07 21:52:28 UTC

not really

2018-09-07 21:52:46 UTC

a single pm doesnt have executive power over all of the common wealth

2018-09-07 21:52:53 UTC

maybe in the eyes of the uk

2018-09-07 21:52:55 UTC

I think you mean monarchist powers.

2018-09-07 21:53:00 UTC

but they still celebrate the queen

2018-09-07 21:53:11 UTC

yeah, by queen I mean monarch

2018-09-07 21:53:19 UTC

the crown

2018-09-07 21:53:28 UTC

same thing

2018-09-07 21:53:32 UTC

The Crown is Parliament

2018-09-07 21:53:37 UTC

In Canada

2018-09-07 21:54:03 UTC

Parliament gets its authority from the Queen.

2018-09-07 21:54:20 UTC

And is thus referred to as the Crown.

2018-09-07 21:54:45 UTC

ok, so in canada is the prime minister elected directly?

2018-09-07 21:55:00 UTC

No

2018-09-07 21:55:17 UTC

The PM is the leader of the party that is elected to office with the most seats.

2018-09-07 21:55:28 UTC

And the Leader is elected by the members of the parties

2018-09-07 21:55:32 UTC

is it like the uk where they are the head of the party?

2018-09-07 21:55:54 UTC

so the pm is basically the head of parliament

2018-09-07 21:56:01 UTC

Not always.

2018-09-07 21:56:18 UTC

well not in a minority government, right?

2018-09-07 21:56:36 UTC

As a Minority government can subvert his agenda and call non-confidence to give him the boot.

2018-09-07 21:57:23 UTC

the pm represents the crown to the people generally speaking

2018-09-07 21:57:28 UTC

The other parties can form a coalition and then call an election.

2018-09-07 21:57:45 UTC

But yeah, the PM is the head of the party with the most seats.

2018-09-07 21:57:56 UTC

And he can appoint people to offices.

2018-09-07 21:58:06 UTC

so it is practically the same as the uk

2018-09-07 21:58:07 UTC

As a majority he is defacto leader.

2018-09-07 21:58:56 UTC

Our system is based on British Parliament.

2018-09-07 21:58:58 UTC

Yes.

2018-09-07 21:59:09 UTC

But the Queen holds more power here than there.

2018-09-07 22:00:29 UTC

We have the Commons and the Senate.

2018-09-07 22:00:47 UTC

The Senate is full of people appointed by PMs.

2018-09-07 22:00:54 UTC

From the Commons.

2018-09-07 22:01:06 UTC

And they never change until one resigns or dies.

2018-09-07 22:01:17 UTC

gay

2018-09-07 22:01:21 UTC

Hah.

2018-09-07 22:01:23 UTC

so my point is that the pm represents the crown in the lives of the citizens. but the pm is chosen through the democratic process. so the authority of the crown is democratically governed

2018-09-07 22:01:32 UTC

Yes.

2018-09-07 22:01:39 UTC

That's about right.

2018-09-07 22:01:42 UTC

that is a problem

2018-09-07 22:01:48 UTC

BUT

2018-09-07 22:02:01 UTC

The Governor General is chosen by the Queen.

2018-09-07 22:02:13 UTC

And has all the authority of the Queen in their country.

2018-09-07 22:02:20 UTC

who is the governor general?

2018-09-07 22:02:34 UTC

The Queen when the Queen isn't there.

2018-09-07 22:02:54 UTC

They are the "Crown" chosen by the crown.

2018-09-07 22:03:12 UTC

K, that is good

2018-09-07 22:03:16 UTC

PM is the people's representative of the crown, Governor General is the Queen's.

2018-09-07 22:03:54 UTC

reduce the power of governance of the pm and give it to the governor general

2018-09-07 22:03:58 UTC

The Governor General is generally bribed into complacency, and rarely ever exercises power.

2018-09-07 22:04:34 UTC

So long as they keep quiet they get a lot of benefits.

2018-09-07 22:04:49 UTC

A fully staffed house, 7 acres of gardens

2018-09-07 22:05:08 UTC

The RCMP at their Beck and call.

2018-09-07 22:05:23 UTC

Armed guards at all your doors.

2018-09-07 22:05:45 UTC

PM should operate like the us house majority leader

2018-09-07 22:06:01 UTC

If you go against the PM the PM will try to limit the powers by calling a referendum.

2018-09-07 22:07:15 UTC

So you can have a comfy job where you just sign whatever they bring you, or exercise your power once, maybe twice and cause outrage.

2018-09-07 22:09:35 UTC

I don't think we should have limited the power of the crown back in the eighties...

2018-09-07 22:09:55 UTC

It's come to bite us in the ass.

2018-09-07 22:09:57 UTC

who is the brown?

2018-09-07 22:10:24 UTC

:U

2018-09-07 22:11:17 UTC

lol

2018-09-07 22:11:50 UTC

limit the power of the brown, no more third world immigration

2018-09-08 14:31:34 UTC

<@&479643036951904267> generic question (and a bit of old news) but what are your thoughts on the Ukriane crisis a few years back?

2018-09-08 14:31:46 UTC

I think Russia is pretty based

2018-09-08 14:32:18 UTC

How so?

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