You act like creating an isolated community has never been done before, or successfully

And if the medicine we have can't help, they're not stuck out there.

yes, drive your car throughout a snowy forest

Uh...

We have roads.

And again, shooting them is an option

You mongrel.

@campodin well within another countrys borders

Yes, you can set up a community within the borders of a nation

it would take a ton of work to get a. recongized b. permission and c. autonamousy

No it wouldn't.

Have you heard of micro nations?

They have none of that shite

Uh, well, all it takes to be "recognizesd" is to have people live there.

They just do as they wish

Then declare yourself an unincorporated community.

you could always declare it as private property

Don't have to become a city-state.

You buy some land, it is yours, you don't need to have the community on your land recognized.

and as a company or a "family"

Yeah, becoming a town would just allow the province and federal government to stick their noses in it.

i gtg brb

i liked suck their noses better

Hahaha

Live just far enough away from civilization that they don't care about building codes

Likely it will just be me and my husband building our dream

Which is a Food Forest and a permaculture farm.

Hopefully with a river on the land so we can build a hydro dam.

Living autonomously is normal for a large number of people

I don't see how this idea is ridiculous

Yeah, you just need to live in an unincorporated township, or outside of any municipality.

Internet and cell phones might become a luxury, but that is perfectly doable

Nah. You can easily build a tower and rent it to the telecom companies.

Or pay them to put a receiver or whatever

They're always looking to expand their coverage.

I guess, if I was doing that I would rather cut off most communication though

Keeping communication open would be beneficial

As I would be looking to sell walnuts and fruit to the rich folk in the city.

Make some rustic crafts to sell too?

Could.

I was thinking solid hardwood furniture.

And alcohol

Lol

Homebrew sells for a mint

Yeah. Maybe try to make a high proof spirit from maple water.

Especially exotic stuff so nut beer and apple vodka

That'd sell well here.

I'm thinking of growing hazelnut and walnuts.

Along with a variety of apples and beans.

Some berries, maybe cherries if I can find a tasty variety that is hardy enough.

I didn't know beans grow well up there

Haha, beans grow anywhere.

And here we're zone 5-6

Ok

So we can grow most things short of tropical fruits and citrus.

The beans are for the qualities they offer the soil though.

Not a cash crop.

Remember,variety in crop species, don't wanna get potatoe famined cause you only use one genus

Hahahahahaha

That's what permaculture is all about!

It's about a farm that could live on even without a human

I'd work in tandem with the land.

That's why I would like to grow walnuts

@Summī Imperator, 呪い殿 Sounds great

They're difficult to kill, and they taste great

Just hard to process.

Need a beastly nut cracker.

Just checked, I'm like zone 8-9

The data is kind of out of date

So it's possible the zone I live in has changed a bit.

Could be 6-7, or even 7-8 with how hot it stays into the autumn now.

I've been homeless for the whole summer and we have tennants in the house that we still own

The tennants were served 3 days notice 3 weeks ago but Sherrif never actually kicked them out yet.

Why don't we just solve the section 8 question once and for all?

Anyone have any ideas?

Where do you live

@Basileus Constantine

@Hum Antifa is releasing Discord logs, so I don't think any of us should ask about any even remotely revealing information

If he gives his state, I'm going to delete it, for his safety

I was going to make a joke about living in the state of denial, but realized this is <#452955229227319306> so I will refrain

antifa's not a centralized organization, you know

it's just a loosely connected band of people

It'd be more accurate to just say "some people are releasing discord logs"

Not people

Commies

^

at least they're not fascists?

Fascists are way better than commies @SilverLining

eh, not really

@SilverLining Very really

Communists have killed several times more people than Fascists ever have.

The top 23/25 of nations with the highest death tolls are Communist

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust

the nationalism which leads to genocides comes inherent in fascism

communism is just a set of economic ideas

Um no?

if you're talking about nationalist communism

then sure, fuck that

Nationalism is not from Fascism

Fascism took nationalism to it's extreme

Not the other way around

Nationalism is inherent in fascism

Nationalism is inheritly good

not really

Thats just bad b8

well, how is nationalism good?

and fine, I'll change the wording

nationalism is worse.

There we go, now how is nationalism, particularly ethno-nationalism, "inherently good"?

Im not talking about ethno nationalism

@SilverLining What do you think about Peron?

You are assuming nationalism equals ethno nationalism

Get that out of your mind

Peron never genocided da joos

In most circumstances it does

They are seperate concepts, and often at odds with one other

Jesus the guts of accusation on you

Please, provide evidence.

as far as dictators go, he was much more forgiving

also, fuck peron for providing protection to war criminals

Context is being removed @SilverLining

@SilverLining Im a Chauvinist, how am i evil?

The US and the Soviet Union also took in Nazis @SilverLining

Peron was in a cold war with both the US and the Soviet Union

I disagree with those policies too

He was not an anti-semite, though @SilverLining

Fuck the US and fuck the USSR for that

There's no evidence of Peron being an anti-semite

other than that

which he did for other reasons

"We defeated the wrong enemy"

He was in a cold war with two super powers

Context is being removed

He wanted them there to help Argentina

still doesn't really justify it

It sort of does when yoiu'

@SilverLining Are you a globalist

when you're locked in a cold war

The ends justify the means

I mean

did he accept scientists?

He wanted to make Argentina prepared

There's an argument to be made if you accept scientists

I'll just say what you said then @SilverLining.
Globalism is evil, and worse than communism.

iirc, he harbored just a lot of SS members

Also, why is globalism bad?

he did

But he was not an anti-semite

yeah... recruiting some SS members doesn't really help a country

His version of fascism was devoid of anti-semitism

@SilverLining Because its worse than communism

well he protected literal warm criminals

Also, just answer my question

Globalism is bad because it's really just other nations competing for influence in other nations

like Saudi Arabia and Israel

competing for influence

for example

and?

even if there was a lack of globalism

Why would you want your nation to be there to defend the interests of another?

that'd still happen regionally

It would

mutual protections?

Moth just avoiding my questions

lmao

mao

how?

And ideally it would be opposed unless they share a common interest

leftist vs leftist

but, anyways

they are known to eat their own

I agree that a lot of our current global support

is garbage

but that's because of realpolitik rather than just

supporting ideologies

also, doctor anon

Borders, not multiculturalism, is proven to reduce inter-group violence

Neo-cons.

@Doctor Anon I'm not after your private property, just after your personal freedom

just kidding

?ban

rip

fucken dyno

every ideology hates other versions on its own side

Neo Conservatism was founded by democrats???

arguably with combined black and red movements, or just general anti-capitalist anti-fascist movements

Are you retarded

Well, the main distinguishing factor between the third position and leftists

there's more mutual support on the left

I mean, the democrats are centrist

and still

is that leftists are either materialist and/or internationalist

Neo Conservatism was founded by democratic jews fleeing the anti-imperialist stance of the party

neo conservatism is right wing

Neo Conservatism is gay

Neo liberalism is also gay

In fact it's even gayer

true

neither are leftist though

@SilverLining I'm not right wing

too right wing for me

I honestly don't know how someone is so brainwashed they think nationalism comes from fascism

you're fairly nationalist

nationalism obviously doesn't come from fascism

Nationalism is godly

fascism just supports nationalism

You just contradicted yourself

@SilverLining I am socially conservative but economically left leaning

nationalism became a thing generally in the late 18th and early 19th century

yeah, so you're kinda right wing

socially

you're centrist at best

Mao MothToday at 7:48 PM
Nationalism is inherent in fascism

and fine, I'll change the wording
nationalism is worse.

You can't be a nationalist and be open to free markets

Anon

how does that imply I said nationalism originated with fascism?

Nationalism is a common trait within fascism

"nationalism is worse than fascism"

kinda like militarism is a common trait within fascism

Im

Arguably the centerpiece

Im astonished

I was saying nationalism is worse than...

whatever we mentioned at first

Fascism is pretty cool

communism?

or antifa?

idk

nationalists are worse than antifa

<:Monkas:459545654029713408>

This is some high tier b8

also the truth

Hot take: The Chinese Communist Model is the best form of fascism in history

Like, i use to be a full on communist, i still own the communist manifesto, but this is next level

China's state capitalist at best

China *is* state capitalist

^

they're in no way remotely communist

still should invade them

for being commies

wtf no

China is baste

no

yes

China is 1984

Even better

Fact: Global trade increases productivity

I'm just being edgy, and should stop, since this is serious

There are many aspects of the Chinese model I do agree with, however

I disagree with it entirely