open borders = good

@Summī Imperator, 呪い殿 who is going to attack us

Canada?

@Enclave thought you said you were leaving...

Sweet, Holy Lord, give me strength to understand.

China is gearing up for an attack.

Not really.

China can't do shit.

i need 1 convert to marx-len

before i leave

Just to be annoying in the south China Sea.

No

China won't be able to attack the US for 30 years and that's if we do nothing

And if there were an invasion launched it would come from Canada.

Not Canada itself.

canadians are peacefull thou

Canada would not be able to support an invasion

But just as a theatre.

what will they attack us with maple syrup ?

You're stupid.

China couldn't get troops into Canada in the first place.

Oceans = completely 100% the territory of the US Navy

Overconfidence was the fall of many nations and empires.

Any hypothetical must not ignore this

We have a navy literally 40 times the size of theirs

We wouldn't let a Chinese army cross the ocean

For any reason

Even the current administration

To assume that nobody has made any progress aside from the USA is sheerly asinine.

And

For your information

Navy is the only thing that matters in war.

Chinese don't have a decent one

The Canadian DND has a lot of Chinese nationals in it.

And won't for 30 years

And we share intelligence with you.

You cannot secretly move an army.

No, but the goal of China in a conflict would be to make it such a devastating loss to attack, that it wouldn't be worth it short of war.

Yes

China would win a defensive war

But can't project force

Would be to win by attrition.

Especially to North America

Slowly widdling away at morale and motivation.

Chinese military is a regional one

They cannot attack beyond their region

daily reminder the USA is cancer on this earth

They simply do not have the infrastructure or the ability to defend large oceanic troop movements

I just don't think underestimating your enemy is good.

You should always assume there is some end game in the works.

They physically cannot secretly move an army

They cannot hide their ships

Or their numbers

@Deleted User daiy reminder without this cancer the arabs would've slaughtered you already

Unless the Chinese develop teleportation

Your idea is impossible

what if i told yo u

I'm an European Jew

you

We literally can detect missile launches via the light they produce

not an Israeli

We can see boats moving

though I do have the passport just in case 😉

which part of europe

i live in the UK

i am guessing in the west

yup

but I am a Hungarian Jew

you got a arab as a mayor

of london

that's my city 😉

they're walking over you

you might want to move out

before they become

ehhhh

I don't know, what of your intelligence is wrong? What if their capabilities are greatly underestimated?

yah I am not happy about the Arabs

caiphate of england

out out out out

@Summī Imperator, 呪い殿 our intelligence isn't wrong

eastern europe will remain european while the west will merge into a caiphate

We can literallt see everything they have

At all times

You suggest that you try to drive out non-whites

Which would lead to civil War.

Probably

I can always return to Hungary if the UK becomes intolerable

And a strain on resources.

The Chinese navy would still be too weak

and I can always go to Israel too 😉

So you are saying that strain would not be opportunity to some?

what you mean by hungarian jew btw

China is the only one even on the table

And how staffed are the ships?

half ethnic jew half hungarian

or just jewish in religion

g-d damn it feels good to jewish

How well trained?

Our Navy?

How prepared for combat?

Hungarian Jews have always been well interpreted into Hungarian society

Our navy is largely automated

integrated

And unnecessarily large

Hungarian Jews spoke Hungarian not Yiddish

Navally the balance of power of the world is more in our favor than any nation in history

So... Say they found a way to scramble the electronic communications?

Even the British did not have such an advantage

Our ships are hardened against EMP

usa has the big gay

And you just assume that there would be no other way to do so?

your population is progressively going gay/non binary

Not without effecting them too

and pacifist

I'm not saying there is.

you're dying soon

Chinese naval doctrine relies entirely upon ballistic missiles

Only that it is foolhardy to think yourself ultimate and supreme over your enemies.

Any electronic attack would also fuck u0 their doctrine

I know about this stuff.

He comes from an imperialist nation what do you expect

US naval doctrine is based around ship based missiles and carriers

Chinese is based on long range ballistic missiles and

late imperialist mentality is always foolhardy

In an electronic or electronicless environment

US wins both ways

you can point this out to the dolt, and he'll never see it

he is blinded by his culture

The Chinese are developing long range weapons that are thought to be capable of taking down a destroyer.

That's why they're so bold in the south China seas.

Destroyers are worthless and meant to be destroyed

AEGIS cruisers.

And China is making carriers and such.

Backbone of the fleet

western europe <:ToMyDrink:459545654323314710>

eastern europe 👌🏻

China bought one rusted Soviet carrier

And has no experience operating it

We have 16

i mean

usa can easily beat china

We have more capacity per carrier

It's just to underestimate the capability of your enemy so much...

And the ability to refuel only once every 15 years

It's not underestimation

If you have the data dude

How would one carrier beat 16

imagine thinking you have the data

😂

I don't think anyone knows exactly what China is up to.

Just like Russia.

We can see everything they do

At all times

china is looking forwards to the day the glorious ussr return

Yeah, okay.

We see every troop movement Russia makes

The USA is omniscient

😂

Our satellites are constantly watching

russian communist party will settle in office once putin dies

then china and russia will kill usa

Americans are so dumb

China might just try to weaponize Thorium or some crap.

Or develop some kind of other horrible thing

Nuclear weapons would result in the destruction of China

They would have no reason to use them

<:ToMyDrink:459545654323314710>

Ah well.

People too big for their britches.

I'm telling you dude, our satellites are designed to pick up missile launches from orbit

You can't hide a ship

Or a train

If you think there is no way you can lose... That's where the loss begins.

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This isn't 1905 when you can hide a fleet

And if they had... Deep sea capabilities?

muh omniscient god nation

We have the largest submarine fleet in the world

Even subs have to be drydocked

>usa
>beating china

Where satellites can see them

get outa here

Then continue to think there is no possibility of loss.

>is muslim
>is 16 year old
>has fucked 4 males
>marxist
>has an american flag as pfp

I know there is no possibility of loss.

Something is rotten

China cannot project force

i am not musim

At least for another 30 years

Musim

Then you would be a horrible military and national leader.

i am just saying islam > nazism and fascism

Navy strategy is different than land strategy

You would lead your country to Ruin.

I forgot the 103 iq

You're just uneducated my dude

but i am not muslim

i am an atheist

No, I'm cautious.

Navy strategy is built strategy

Even worst

Everything takes decades

We have a hell or a head start

Of*

thou not a skeptical one

You should always think something could go wrong.

That somebody might make a mistake.

there might be god there might not be nobody knows

🤷

Divine intervention maybe

No...

Human.

It only takes a few to subterfuge.

And in a reactionary war.

Okay how would a human accidentally wipe out 12 carrier groups to put us on par with the Chinese

Those details are often overlooked.

We don't have all of our eggs in one basket

I'm not saying you do.

I'm saying to think nothing could go wrong is a horrible mentality.

You're just using a what if scenario without substance because you know nothing of the naval balance of power and are speaking in platitudes about caution

I'm using a what if scenario because I know that humans are not perfect and easily manipulated by grandeur.

China can win a defensive war with land based batteries and aircraft

Offensive? No.

It's not grandeur

It's the ability to count

Not a good one

Uh...

You can refit and build an entire army in a year

A navy will take 30-50

It's static

So if say somebody inside the line turned on the other ships..

There are no surprises in naval warfare

Nothing would happen firstly

You would need the entire crew to turn

Which is unlikely

And then it's just one ship

Out of what, 800

It's one attack that was unexpected and would send ripples of mistrust.

Secondly aegis overlaps

So whatever one of our ships fires

Others within the same fleet can shoot it down

Think of a Carrier group as a Venn diagram with 12 circles overlapping

Those circles are the missile defense grids

They can shoot down anything coming into it with 11 back ups

So you think the military would be capable of surpressing insurgency on the homefront while waging war abroad as well?

Navy is entirely separate from land forces

And operates independently

I don't think it's unfeasible either.

What affects one does not affect the other directly

I know.