But not the idea of nation-states.

What are we arguing about?

Tbh a lot of nations (particularly in Europe) are voluntarily throwing their sovereignty away.

Pff idfk @GermanEastAfrica

hello tankies

Possibility of communist society

Hi

@GermanEastAfrica Marxism basically.

If you want to establish a communist society on another planet.

Fine.

Oh, so a failed system

Yeah

Wrong

communism doesn't work

Of course you're gonna say wrong.

No

@Rhenic RT

@Fuju a certain (((tribe))) is doing that, it's not inherently voluntary. Would you say you voluntarily gave your money away if a fraudster took it from you?

Yea, the citizens of Laos are living in luxury right nkw

What?

Laos is not socialist

Why is that directed at me? I'm both anti-Semitic and anti-communist

Nor is China or Vietnam

I thought we were talking about communism? They directive it as a communist system and country so what is it?

Let me guess

State Capitalism

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Tbh a lot of nations (particularly in Europe) are voluntarily throwing their sovereignty away.

because you said this

@Fuju he’s talking about the “voluntary throwing away of sovereignty”

Yes I did.

I'm not saying its a good thing.

I'm entirely against it.

and im telling you it's not voluntary in nature

Ah.

because it's inherently fraudulent

Perhaps.

were the people knowingly electing politicians that work for zog, then it would be voluntary.

ZOG? srsly?

Yea

woah

That’s the lingo bud

yes, "srsly", cue "stormfag", "da joos", etc

Welcome to /pol, you’re here forever

/pol/ is filled with civcucks

/nsg/ is where its at

/pol/ gay rt

it's*

/leftypol/ is the best

Fuck off with that gay shit

every /pol/, left or right gay RT

Lol

leftypol is too larpy

i visited there once and it reminded me of when fags on social media used to try and act like regular 4chan users

there's no such thing as leftypol, inherently. It's just communists that wanted their own bit of existence on /pol/. They have their areas to operate everywhere - twitter, facebook, you name it

^ basically

I wonder if gab.io will be infiltrated by the leftys

it's not like communists are being shut down on those platforms

Gab is gay because it’s boomer central.

gab is peak boomerism yes

I like Gab but the format is kind of messy

so

about that whole "transition" stage

from socialism to communism

how in the world is it possible to transition from totalitarianism to a stateless society

Dictatorship of the proletariat

Lol

Totalitarianism is a fake concept

how so?

What

Usually communists believe the state will eventually serve no purpose and wither away.

It’s happened many times before how is it possible to be fake?

ownership of the means of production as well as total legal making power

is totalitarianism

totalitarianism is good

^

@Fuju that seems completely impossible

It is.

Then old empire of China was totalitarian too

I'm on your side with this @Adoring Fan

a strong and competent leader is needed to rule a country

oh no

anime avatars

None

The socialist state seeks to suppress the remnants of exploiting classes so they would never rise again and thus a classless society will be created

a strong leader is needed, but economically, corporatism or prussian socialism is the most sufficient system there is

So what are we debating?

@Advocatus Diaboli the "exploiting" classes were suppressed under the soviet union

and under mao

a classless society wasnt exactly born

Do you realize that for society to be a thing there needs to be hierarchy and structure? That’s how civilization were born

But hey didn't die out for sure

*they

That’s the secret Krabby Patty formula for civilization

ah of course so youre saying stalin just didnt finish his job

and if he killed all the CRAPitalists

he would have just went away quietly

being at peace with the fact that he established his utopia

'utopia'

Getting rid of social classes isn't just killing off all the capitalists

lets kill off everybody tbh