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2018-03-31 18:36:07 UTC

won't see a tax cut

2018-03-31 18:37:03 UTC

because their income is too low to be taxed to any significant degree anyway

2018-03-31 18:37:16 UTC

Trump's voters want jobs, not tax cuts

2018-03-31 18:37:25 UTC

or jobs first, then tax cuts

2018-03-31 18:40:16 UTC

The fact is

2018-03-31 18:40:22 UTC

even though I am benefiting from the tax cuts,

2018-03-31 18:40:38 UTC

It may cause an increased deficit,

2018-03-31 18:40:48 UTC

and more importantly this isn't what we wanted.

2018-03-31 18:41:20 UTC

This is what the GOP needed to do to keep their donors from abandoning the GOP as a bunch of incompetents who can't pass a damn thing to appease donors.

2018-03-31 19:44:34 UTC

Correct as always

2018-03-31 20:23:11 UTC

Meme War against David Hogg and his cohorts has begun, btw

2018-03-31 20:39:43 UTC

its a tough call to make there - the new push is to ignore all their bullshit and I agree with it but how do we get the drooling retarded masses to follow suit?

2018-03-31 20:41:47 UTC

i have some of the same issues in that department as i do as a salesman - i try to explain everything in a rational manner and give people the facts - a huge percentage of our unfortunate species does not deal in facts and would only respond to: GIBS, emotional appeals, force/intimidation, hedonism, WOWWOWOWOW HIGH ENERGY SALES GUY HEY BOOMER BUY THIS TIMESHARE YOU FUCKING RETARD

2018-03-31 20:43:54 UTC

the average person would rather follow a rosy path off a cliff than a dull one to a castle.

2018-03-31 20:44:13 UTC

INVEST IN THESE NGOS YOURE TOTALLY SAVING THE WORLD MAN

2018-03-31 20:44:58 UTC

YOU CAN DO IT FROM YOUR CELL PHONE WITH AS LITTLE AS FIVE DOLLARS NOW!!! (fine print: no dividends, no votes broker votes for you, big fees, etc)

2018-03-31 22:14:07 UTC

Buzzfeed is defending them, right?

2018-03-31 22:14:45 UTC

Yeah but they for once are trying (and failing) to be subtle about it

2018-03-31 22:15:22 UTC

Fuzzbeed

2018-03-31 22:26:56 UTC

What Happened to the Big Announcement

2018-03-31 22:28:52 UTC

seems like it was just a rumor

2018-03-31 22:33:41 UTC

Well, the Green Party got ballot access in Montana. People there tend to vote third party, so more people who lean to the left will may vote Green.

2018-03-31 22:34:13 UTC

Which is like 500 people

2018-03-31 22:34:14 UTC

Though, Johnson did help Trump win by a large margin in 2016.

2018-03-31 22:37:11 UTC

Here is the question Gary

2018-03-31 22:37:23 UTC

โ€œA city in the Northeast portion of Syriaโ€

2018-03-31 22:37:30 UTC

What is Aleppo?

2018-03-31 22:41:26 UTC

In 2016 1.61% of the population of Montana voted for Jill Stein and she wasnโ€™t on the ballot. Or at least I donโ€™t think she was.

2018-03-31 22:42:14 UTC

Tester won by 4% in 2012 so having a Green Party could definitely make a difference

2018-03-31 22:48:05 UTC

@Den hahaha that's such a blow to Hillary. Stein not even being on the ballot, but they decide to vote for her instead anyway

2018-03-31 22:48:41 UTC

Third parties will usually run a candidate as an independent if they can't get ballot access in a state.

2018-03-31 22:50:26 UTC

What in the Hell

2018-03-31 22:50:34 UTC

A quarter of the Vermont population are gunowners

2018-03-31 22:51:03 UTC

Jill Stein also did good among Native Americans in the Dakotas and Montana, as they tend to vote Democrat.

2018-03-31 22:51:13 UTC

Magazine bans, raises age to 21 for long guns, universal background checks for all firearm sales, bump stocks banned.

2018-03-31 22:51:18 UTC

re: vermont

2018-03-31 22:51:27 UTC

@๐ŸŽƒBoo-ton๐ŸŽƒ Vermont is one of those bi-polar states in which they vote one way, but live another.

2018-03-31 22:51:44 UTC

there's _no_ gun violence in this state

2018-03-31 22:52:07 UTC

Vermont is just so sheltered and liberal.

2018-03-31 22:52:17 UTC

These dying old hippies will still vote for Sanders and the Democrats

2018-03-31 22:52:20 UTC

^

2018-03-31 22:52:20 UTC

Virtually 100% white

2018-03-31 22:52:21 UTC

Yep.

2018-03-31 22:52:32 UTC

Vermont was right-wing up until very, very recently.

2018-03-31 22:52:33 UTC

All these New York immigrants.

2018-03-31 22:52:40 UTC

^This too

2018-03-31 22:53:07 UTC

Prisoners in Vermont can vote too.

2018-03-31 22:53:14 UTC

Zero disenfranchisement of felons

2018-03-31 22:53:33 UTC

BLM activists actually use pics/vids of them voting to show how "their votes matter but their lives don't"

2018-03-31 22:53:41 UTC

but hilariously, they're always white

2018-03-31 22:54:05 UTC

if they want their rights taken away, so be it.

2018-03-31 22:54:07 UTC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmrlvQwMdVo - Chicago also intensifies gun control laws.

2018-03-31 22:54:08 UTC

lel.

2018-03-31 22:54:41 UTC

Three laws.

2018-03-31 22:55:49 UTC

We need to moving to a state in New England so we can keep it red.

2018-03-31 22:56:00 UTC

I say New Hampshire and Maine.

2018-03-31 22:56:47 UTC

The good news however is that it looks like gun rights will expand in Michigan.

2018-03-31 22:58:00 UTC

The GOP has very comfortable majorities in both chambers in Michigan.

2018-03-31 22:58:05 UTC

so it looks likely

2018-03-31 23:04:51 UTC

All of the Democrats in Ohio, Indiana, and Michigan are leaving to live in Florida. I think these states will start leaning more to the right.

2018-03-31 23:06:55 UTC

I'm worried we could see state legislatures wiped out everywhere in November

2018-03-31 23:07:18 UTC

Remember Virginia?

2018-03-31 23:07:33 UTC

14 state legislative seats lost in one day

2018-03-31 23:07:50 UTC

Virginia is going to be democratic.

2018-03-31 23:07:58 UTC

All of the DC people live there.

2018-03-31 23:07:58 UTC

source

2018-03-31 23:08:01 UTC

For God's sake,

2018-03-31 23:08:19 UTC

Virginia's House had a 67 seat Republican majority

2018-03-31 23:08:22 UTC

As for state legislature seats, it depends on the state.

2018-03-31 23:08:24 UTC

now it's down to 51

2018-03-31 23:08:25 UTC

are they going to live in florida

2018-03-31 23:08:41 UTC

what's the source

2018-03-31 23:09:07 UTC

Look at the sun belt.

2018-03-31 23:09:21 UTC

A vast majority of the people moving there are from the North.

2018-03-31 23:09:39 UTC

yeah but democrats

2018-03-31 23:09:41 UTC

Everyone I know has a house down in Florida and they tend to be well off and vote Democratic.

2018-03-31 23:10:08 UTC

we get plenty of boomers down here, but not sure about it leaning one way or the other

2018-03-31 23:10:17 UTC

@๐ŸŽƒBoo-ton๐ŸŽƒ not what I asked about

2018-03-31 23:10:32 UTC

@๐ŸŽƒBoo-ton๐ŸŽƒ blame NoVa and government expansion

2018-03-31 23:10:48 UTC

What data do you seek

2018-03-31 23:16:55 UTC

nah, I was asking ghawk hill about democrats moving to florida from the north

2018-03-31 23:17:27 UTC

I mean, like the really rich people tend to be evenly split electorally, aren't they?

2018-03-31 23:18:09 UTC

SAY IT WITH ME

2018-03-31 23:18:11 UTC

PURPLE FLORIDA

2018-03-31 23:18:30 UTC

purple florida

2018-03-31 23:18:51 UTC

it's the most purple fucking state in the union

2018-03-31 23:19:54 UTC

I guess, I am not too sure as all the rich people who live near me are Democrats.

2018-03-31 23:20:07 UTC

funnily enough,

2018-03-31 23:20:11 UTC

Florida is not the most elastic

2018-03-31 23:20:15 UTC

Ohio was the most purple state

2018-03-31 23:20:22 UTC

But with all these Dems moving down

2018-03-31 23:20:26 UTC

Ohio is purple as fuck.

2018-03-31 23:20:29 UTC

the most elastic state in the union is Iowa

2018-03-31 23:20:47 UTC

Iowa can swing hard in any given election

2018-03-31 23:20:53 UTC

Florida can't

2018-03-31 23:21:02 UTC

because Florida voters are generally partisans

2018-03-31 23:21:08 UTC

Well it's not the most *elastic* per-se, but it's always teetering on the edge

2018-03-31 23:21:09 UTC

Florida comes down to turnout

2018-03-31 23:21:16 UTC

Bush almost won Iowa in 2000.

2018-03-31 23:21:17 UTC

unlike Iowa

2018-03-31 23:21:32 UTC

It was by a very narrow margin.

2018-03-31 23:21:42 UTC

funny enough,

2018-03-31 23:21:51 UTC

It's usually never more than 5 points for either side in an election

2018-03-31 23:22:09 UTC

Also, if the Green party gains more traction and popularity in Florida, it is possible we can see it become red.

2018-03-31 23:22:24 UTC

And the Libertarian Party, but they will also take the moderate right vote.

2018-03-31 23:22:37 UTC

McCain almost lost Missouri and Montana in back in 2008

2018-03-31 23:22:57 UTC

such a thin margin

2018-03-31 23:23:19 UTC

That's probably not really significant enough in a state like Florida, but we definitely need all the help we can get

2018-03-31 23:23:39 UTC

Get people to move to hurricane free areas.

2018-03-31 23:23:50 UTC

Bro

2018-03-31 23:24:07 UTC

This is fucking Florida

2018-03-31 23:24:16 UTC

There is no "hurricane free area"

2018-03-31 23:24:20 UTC

I know people who will avoid Florida due to hurricanes.

2018-03-31 23:24:30 UTC

The Northern part of the state.

2018-03-31 23:24:40 UTC

By Alabama and Georgia.

2018-03-31 23:25:05 UTC

What's the difference then? We'll have less consolidation in central FL which we need

2018-03-31 23:25:26 UTC

And good luck getting all the latinos to move out of Miami

2018-03-31 23:26:03 UTC

There are three solutions to the spic problem in Miami.

2018-03-31 23:26:17 UTC

There's one that works pretty well

2018-03-31 23:26:24 UTC

deport

2018-03-31 23:26:42 UTC

1. Eminent Domain
2. Third Parties
3. Right wing death squad.

2018-03-31 23:27:08 UTC

I'd tell you, having birthright citizenship revoked and english as an official language would do wonders for the state

2018-03-31 23:27:42 UTC

That would do wonders for the entire nation.

2018-03-31 23:27:51 UTC

In here in particular, the Miami area

2018-03-31 23:28:14 UTC

It may be almost as busy as California

2018-03-31 23:28:37 UTC

Lots of non-english speakers and stuff

2018-03-31 23:28:53 UTC

We don't have as big of a gang problem, but it's still shitty

2018-03-31 23:29:31 UTC

It would help us in California, Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, New Jersey, New York, Hawaii, and Colorado.

2018-03-31 23:30:00 UTC

Cali, Texas, NM, Arizona, FL would be the main spots

2018-03-31 23:30:11 UTC

And Nevada

2018-03-31 23:30:15 UTC

Utah is good at keeping the state white.

2018-03-31 23:30:30 UTC

I think Colorado is pretty white, it just has a stoner problem

2018-03-31 23:30:37 UTC

@FLanon New York and New Jersey too as you can get ballots in many different languages there.

2018-03-31 23:30:51 UTC

Spics are creeping into Colorado.

2018-03-31 23:31:01 UTC

^

2018-03-31 23:31:08 UTC

Because they realize Utah is too conservative.

2018-03-31 23:31:18 UTC

Oh yeah, there's this town in New York State where the 90% of the population speaks Yiddish

2018-03-31 23:31:20 UTC

And actually upholds the law.

2018-03-31 23:31:49 UTC

Hawaii is tough though, I'd probably want to pursue independence options for them

2018-03-31 23:32:01 UTC

Those Jews might come our way as Trump did recognize Jerusalem as the capital.

2018-03-31 23:32:10 UTC

Hawaii has a lot of Filipinos.

2018-03-31 23:32:41 UTC

Yeah, the issue is we've got a bit of a checkered past with them

2018-03-31 23:33:15 UTC

And like there's a lot of japs and koreans over there, it's not really too similar to the continental US in culture

2018-03-31 23:33:25 UTC

plus their federal judges are a bunch of faggots

2018-03-31 23:33:37 UTC

Plus, native Hawaiians are only 9.9% of the population.

2018-03-31 23:33:54 UTC

New Jersey and New York would benefit somewhat, but not as much as the southern areas

2018-03-31 23:34:13 UTC

They would benefit in the sense that they would have to learn English

2018-03-31 23:34:15 UTC

Their issue tends to be ideology

2018-03-31 23:34:21 UTC

I mean, everywhere it would

2018-03-31 23:34:22 UTC

In New Jersey and New York.

2018-03-31 23:34:41 UTC

I think New Jersey may become a red state in the next few decades

2018-03-31 23:35:12 UTC

In New Jersey and New York, you can get ballots in Chinese, Cantonese, Russian, Thai, Hindi, Spanish, and many more.

2018-03-31 23:35:43 UTC

Those are sort of minor enclaves

2018-03-31 23:36:04 UTC

Plus, by eliminating those ballot options, that would save the federal government around $1.6 billion.

2018-03-31 23:36:17 UTC

I don't think ICE is going to raid Russian immigrants in New Jersey any time soon

2018-03-31 23:36:36 UTC

We need Russians, they are white.

2018-03-31 23:36:53 UTC

ICE is more worried about the Mexicans immigrating right now

2018-03-31 23:36:56 UTC

because that's a big reason why you'd revoke birthright citizenship, is the question of language

2018-03-31 23:36:59 UTC

And they should be

2018-03-31 23:37:03 UTC

Mhm

2018-03-31 23:37:27 UTC

I swear the Mexican government and citizens are complicit

2018-03-31 23:37:29 UTC

@Deleted User Do you see more people moving into Kentucky?

2018-03-31 23:37:40 UTC

Haven't checked the statistics, but not my town

2018-03-31 23:37:46 UTC

We should threaten them with military action.

2018-03-31 23:37:50 UTC

All I know is that illegal Mexicans make Pope Francis hard.

2018-03-31 23:37:52 UTC

Most people entering my town are from the stupid ass bussing going on in Jefferson County schools

2018-03-31 23:38:16 UTC

Because most illegals are Catholic and Pope Francis loves to see numbers.

2018-03-31 23:38:17 UTC

@Ghawk Utah is good at keeping the state white because they're mormons

2018-03-31 23:38:27 UTC

Little race mixing

2018-03-31 23:38:29 UTC

@zakattack04 That is my point.

2018-03-31 23:38:32 UTC

And they each have 5 kids

2018-03-31 23:38:36 UTC

at least

2018-03-31 23:38:40 UTC

Fertility cult

2018-03-31 23:38:46 UTC

Fine with me

2018-03-31 23:38:49 UTC

The Mormons need to establish colonies in Texas.

2018-03-31 23:38:50 UTC

AS long as they vote republican

2018-03-31 23:38:55 UTC

Mexico is assisting criminals entering to the US such as the one that killed Kate Steinlie.

2018-03-31 23:38:58 UTC

Though they're pretty dovish on Immigration

2018-03-31 23:39:00 UTC

The Mexican Government provides its citizens with pamphlets instructing them how to successfully break into the country

2018-03-31 23:39:06 UTC

We are Austria-Hungary, they are Serbia.

2018-03-31 23:39:09 UTC

totally complicit

2018-03-31 23:39:41 UTC

@FLanon Except in this timeline, A-H is protestant and Serbia is Catholic.

2018-03-31 23:39:47 UTC

The Mexico situation is particularly insidious as it's both the government and citizens as a whole who are responsible

2018-03-31 23:39:59 UTC

We also need to remind Mexico that we bailed them out in 1994.

2018-03-31 23:40:02 UTC

What's the date of the next elections?

2018-03-31 23:40:09 UTC

November 6th

2018-03-31 23:40:16 UTC

What was the rebel state of Chiapas?

2018-03-31 23:40:30 UTC

Why did they rebel?

2018-03-31 23:40:35 UTC

The primaries and specials before then, that is.

2018-03-31 23:40:37 UTC

Because they can.

2018-03-31 23:40:54 UTC

We need to remind Mexico that the only reason they exist is due to the grace of American lawmakers in the 1850s and nothing else

2018-03-31 23:41:02 UTC

Mexico doesn't have the layers of Federalism that the US has.

2018-03-31 23:41:11 UTC

Positive reinforcement isn't going to do anything

2018-03-31 23:41:39 UTC

Mexico has been fucked since 1911

2018-03-31 23:41:44 UTC

We must force them to either protect our mutual border or face the wrath of the largest army in the world.

2018-03-31 23:41:56 UTC

And PMCs

2018-03-31 23:42:05 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399676530394923010/429787500953993247/DebbieLesko.PNG

2018-03-31 23:42:11 UTC

@FLanon @๐ŸŽƒBoo-ton๐ŸŽƒ Hopefully she read our email

2018-03-31 23:42:26 UTC

according to muh polls,

2018-03-31 23:42:32 UTC

Trump's approval in the district is 59%

2018-03-31 23:42:37 UTC

I have five ideas to get people to stay in Mexico
1. Landmines at the border
2. Right wing death squads
3. Military action
4. heavy industry
5. anime

2018-03-31 23:42:55 UTC

I think honestly rwds is a possible solution

2018-03-31 23:43:01 UTC

PMCs and Militias, people!

2018-03-31 23:43:02 UTC

Have ya people noticed something?

2018-03-31 23:43:24 UTC

@FLanon @๐ŸŽƒBoo-ton๐ŸŽƒ she said " I support President Trump's proposal to build the wall. The wall works in Yuma. I've seen it first hand."

2018-03-31 23:43:28 UTC

the 'd' would stand for deportation of course

2018-03-31 23:43:30 UTC

maybe she did read our email

2018-03-31 23:43:41 UTC

and she's actually responding to comments on her page, unlike Rick Saccone

2018-03-31 23:43:51 UTC

Trump approval in GA-06 -> 53%, Handel wins with 53%
Trump approval in PA-18 -> 49%, Saccone loses with 49%

2018-03-31 23:43:56 UTC

Good! She needs to be stalwart on immigration.

2018-03-31 23:44:09 UTC

she's responding to this comment "I have voted for you every election since moving to AZ. No matter what you have to say in campaign ads, I need some sort of assurance from you that you will vote along the lines of the bi-partisan coalition being formed by Coffman from Colorado. Money for border security (electronic surveillance, more border agents, NO WALL, and a path to citizenship for the "Dreamers" who have not been convicted of a felony. Thanks!"


sounds like a shill comment

2018-03-31 23:44:27 UTC

Remember when the Dems were suicidal after GA-06?

2018-03-31 23:44:30 UTC

Trump's approval in districts is what matters

2018-03-31 23:44:32 UTC

Well in that case this should bode well for Lesko

2018-03-31 23:44:35 UTC

@๐ŸŽƒBoo-ton๐ŸŽƒ where did you get those numbers

2018-03-31 23:44:43 UTC

Politico

2018-03-31 23:44:47 UTC

that sounds way too evenly matched to be accurate

2018-03-31 23:44:47 UTC

And also, this outlines the importance of Trump's approval rating.

2018-03-31 23:44:55 UTC

He must bring that number up

2018-03-31 23:44:56 UTC

oh wait

2018-03-31 23:45:11 UTC

If it's that evenly matched, then it must be some indicator

2018-03-31 23:45:19 UTC

no I got them from the PA's secretary of state website

2018-03-31 23:45:25 UTC

@Rhodesiaboo yeah, I hope to make them suicidal again

2018-03-31 23:45:32 UTC

Trump's approval is what matters

2018-03-31 23:45:41 UTC

Trump is unpopular

2018-03-31 23:45:43 UTC

PA's Secretary of State listed Trump's approval rating in the district ?

2018-03-31 23:45:49 UTC

no

2018-03-31 23:45:52 UTC

I doubt those numbers are legit

2018-03-31 23:45:59 UTC

that was Public Polling Policy Center

2018-03-31 23:46:21 UTC

many people who 'approve of Trump' will vote D, and many people who disapprove will vote 'R'

2018-03-31 23:46:31 UTC

Trump is not your typical Republican

2018-03-31 23:46:34 UTC

What made Colorado blue?

2018-03-31 23:46:35 UTC

There's certainly a causal relationship extremely significant between presidential approval and GOP electoral importance.

2018-03-31 23:46:41 UTC

@zakattack04 stoners

2018-03-31 23:46:43 UTC

@zakattack04 Denver and weed, from what I know

2018-03-31 23:46:45 UTC

I donโ€™t trust polls, after โ€œHillary has a 98 percent chance of winningโ€

2018-03-31 23:46:54 UTC

not a poll

2018-03-31 23:46:55 UTC

polls are a total waste of time

2018-03-31 23:47:07 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399676530394923010/429788769089224719/Trump_Wisconsin_polls.png

2018-03-31 23:47:08 UTC

Honestly

2018-03-31 23:47:12 UTC

This is Wisconsin

2018-03-31 23:47:26 UTC

Just don't waste your time studying polls for candidates

2018-03-31 23:47:32 UTC

I think on policy they tend to be more reliable.

2018-03-31 23:47:36 UTC

Anyways, it's still something to keep track of, simply for the movements and how it reacts to certain events

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