Activism gets much more dynamic, etc

for too long the state channels have been deserted

I guess it'd be pretty hard to fill it all up so quickly in the span of 3 weeks

@Extra Crispy yeah

dont worry though, im sure you'll find the numbers inevitably

the primaries are months away

November is 9 months away

well we're growing which is good

most people don't care about the midterms yet

(technically, most people in the USA never care about the midterms)

is it only us americans in here?

Yeah, no non Americans afaij

*as far as I know

I need to sharpen my debate skills. what's your stance on welfare?

IMO a minimum amount of welfare is needed so that people don't turn to crime when they lose their jobs

but not much more than is needed to survive

I agree

I think workfare would be a better alternative though

was anyone on /pol/ on the 2014 midterms?

get people doing service jobs while they are unemployed

Didn't matter too much back then I assume

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/38207863/#q38207863

good times

@FLAnon I took a break from /pol/ from 2014 to early 2016

I ran into a bunch of fags on 4craft who were running the /pol/ team who were pretty much all but communist in name

In 2014 we still had Obama and the such, I mean we didn't have as much to gain from a lot in a midterm landslide

I dont get how anyone who believes that ineptitude is directly correlated to IQ and genes could believe that the poor are suffering solely because of the rich

@Extra Crispy anyways welfare, you were saying

I think that workfare would be a better alternative, since it would keep people who were dependent on the state active, and attempt to entice them to find another job

2014 was pretty shocking tbh

The thing I feel is that you shouldn't reward unproductivity

I agree

everyone expected a GOP landslide, but the fact they won in Illinois was shocking

I also think that if you have more kids while on welfare, that you shouldn't be given more welfare money

If you have a horrible disease, are a veteran, or are eligible for social security then you should be applicable for welfare, not too many exceptions

there's no such thing as a free lunch; the more money welfare recipiants demand on the tax payers to fill their pockets, the more of a burdan it is on the people who are working to pay taxes

with that in mind, I believe welfare shouldn't be anything more than a temporary supplimental solution

I also think it should be more up to the people to handle these sort of things, especially considering how there had previously before the healthcare system was in place, been a system in which a union-like organization was structured around workers who searched for the most effective, as well as cheapest doctors they could find

I also believe we should restrict social security eligibility to an extent

I think social security is a fraud

a lot of old immigrants come in here and immediately become eligible even though they haven't worked in the US

the issue is how do you convince people to defund the social security fund

its already being consumed at a rate higher than it can be filled

Yeah, that's a big problem

its very unstable

I don't count on it lasting much more than a decade, at best

I think we should restrict it to immigrants who haven't been here since a certain age

like if you come at 60 you shouldn't be eligible

something like that

there is also an issue with pre-existing conditions

Because the idea is: you work your whole life and get payroll taxes, then you are rewarded with a certain amound of money in your old age

>rewarded

its your money

Yeah lmao

you're never going to get anything near what you put in when you were younger anyway

literally thousands of dollars, gone

I unironically think that it should be up to the kid to sign up for social security when they're older and stuff

People put up with it though because it's a form of retirement fund so they don't have to work

That's a good idea

its only a good idea for people who are too incompetent to handle money on their own

People would be incentivized to save

people should be, rather than just handing their money over to shady groups

@Red Storm (in NYC) I think we should add a political discussion channel for non-midterm related discussions like these, maybe #Discussions or something

our huge outer heaven discord has a discussions general alongside the main general, and it never gets used lol

people just continued arguing in the main chat anyway despite people asking them to move

either that, or they just stopped completely

We'd launch a test run maybe, see how it works

Anyways, back to welfare/social security

Maybe we could make it to where you could apply and drop from the program when you want

I can't really think of anything that we could disagree on

welfare?

or social security

@FLanon just made it

Well it's a discussion not a debate

@Red Storm (in NYC) well great we'll see how it turns out

@PhabeJewell welcome

what state are you from

NM

interesting

first one from there in this channel

has potential

which district

Uh idk

What's that again?

NM = New Mexico
NM = Nothing much

coincidence?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAAlDoAtV7Y

https://www.house.gov/representatives/find-your-representative

Sorry I'm not feeling well today

2nd district

https://ballotpedia.org/New_Mexico%27s_2nd_Congressional_District_election,_2016

looks like a safe red area

@Breadbox welcome

what state are you from

WA

ah, you're the 2nd one from WA

nioce

Seattle or the outlying areas ?

fml

close to there