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2018-03-24 03:37:37 UTC

What constitutes censorship, doesn't a company of a right to have what they want on their product or service? So then what has priority, the company or the consumer.

2018-03-24 03:37:42 UTC

This is a sort of anti-trust kind of thing

2018-03-24 03:37:45 UTC

Whos' rights get to override the others.

2018-03-24 03:37:46 UTC

Not really.

2018-03-24 03:37:56 UTC

Do you think this is an acceptable status quo?

2018-03-24 03:37:59 UTC

Because the internet isn't a monopoly.

2018-03-24 03:38:01 UTC

Are you a dickhead?

2018-03-24 03:38:12 UTC

LOL

2018-03-24 03:38:26 UTC

Great connection man

2018-03-24 03:38:33 UTC

From to statues quo, to dickhead.

2018-03-24 03:38:50 UTC

You managed to strawman and alienate me in two lines. That'll win you a seat.

2018-03-24 03:39:09 UTC

We will not make a centimeter of progress in moving our ideas forward until silicon valley is dealt with

2018-03-24 03:39:30 UTC

After Trump, they'll kill any ascendant right wing movement in the united states in the crib.

2018-03-24 03:39:40 UTC

You're talking like There's a handful of people that control everything you see on the internet.

2018-03-24 03:39:42 UTC

It's just not true.

2018-03-24 03:39:44 UTC

There is

2018-03-24 03:39:49 UTC

yes Twitter and Youtube censor.

2018-03-24 03:39:52 UTC

do you live under a rock

2018-03-24 03:40:02 UTC

Twitter, YouTube, Facebook, Discord

2018-03-24 03:40:17 UTC

Then make a new platform, and don't censor.

2018-03-24 03:40:19 UTC

This bill is specifically for those monolithic organizations with market share

2018-03-24 03:40:24 UTC

Those companies get the right to do that if you use their product.

2018-03-24 03:40:30 UTC

They aren't fucking monoplies.

2018-03-24 03:40:32 UTC

They hold the de-facto public square.

2018-03-24 03:40:47 UTC

They have have vertical or horizontal control of the market.

2018-03-24 03:40:48 UTC

@zakattack04 dude, Facebook and Google pretty much are monopolies

2018-03-24 03:40:56 UTC

Gab.ai is not going to save the American right wing.

2018-03-24 03:40:59 UTC

Facebook no.

2018-03-24 03:41:03 UTC

Google you can arge.

2018-03-24 03:41:05 UTC

argue*

2018-03-24 03:41:34 UTC

"Your online bill of rights is going to flood the court system and skyrocket already high court prices."

and so what?

2018-03-24 03:41:38 UTC

But if they were the FTC would've been on it by now, you have three solid anti trust regulations to support breaking up monoplies.

2018-03-24 03:41:51 UTC

The point of social media is that it's central, that everyone can connect with each other with the same means, having all these different social media orgs for the same purpose is completely unpractical.

2018-03-24 03:42:11 UTC

This is what has to be done.

2018-03-24 03:42:18 UTC

That's what an industry is FLanon.

2018-03-24 03:42:34 UTC

ancaps pls

2018-03-24 03:42:55 UTC

This is a paleocon thread

2018-03-24 03:42:59 UTC

"America has fallen but at least I didn't cuck on industry"

2018-03-24 03:43:08 UTC

its' not just one company running all fo social media lol

2018-03-24 03:43:16 UTC

Yeah, it's an oligarchy

2018-03-24 03:43:19 UTC

Social media is an industry in which several companies can compete.

2018-03-24 03:43:25 UTC

Probably yeah lol.

2018-03-24 03:44:06 UTC

Youtube, Discord, Facebook, Twitter. Twitter fulfills a different purpose than facebook, YouTube fulfills a different purpose than Discord, etc. They're not competing.

2018-03-24 03:44:10 UTC

my point is though, "It's unpractical" isn't a valid justification for using the government to crack down on businesses

2018-03-24 03:44:18 UTC

Yes it is

2018-03-24 03:44:28 UTC

lol

2018-03-24 03:44:35 UTC

Tell me where it says that in the Sherman Anti Trust act

2018-03-24 03:44:40 UTC

Or the Clayton Anti Trust Act

2018-03-24 03:44:44 UTC

Or the FTC Charter

2018-03-24 03:44:52 UTC

No, it says anti competitiveness

2018-03-24 03:44:54 UTC

um no sweetie!

2018-03-24 03:45:00 UTC

Not, "what's impractical"

2018-03-24 03:45:26 UTC

Immigration is all that matters lmao

2018-03-24 03:45:40 UTC

Nice, that was relevant

2018-03-24 03:45:43 UTC

Anyway.

2018-03-24 03:45:47 UTC

the internet can be fixed whenever

2018-03-24 03:45:49 UTC

FLanon, I wasn't trying to shit on your agenda.

2018-03-24 03:45:54 UTC

I was just brining up another point.

2018-03-24 03:45:59 UTC

Things to consider.

2018-03-24 03:46:00 UTC

But demographics cannot

2018-03-24 03:46:10 UTC

Button mash

2018-03-24 03:46:14 UTC

I'm just saying, what's more important is to get our ideas out there than protecting mark zuccerberg

2018-03-24 03:46:18 UTC

i really don't care, I wasn't talking to you.

2018-03-24 03:46:22 UTC

No offense.

2018-03-24 03:46:39 UTC

I wasn't talking about protecting mark Zuccerberg.

2018-03-24 03:47:57 UTC

Anyways, these guys hold an effective monopoly for their respective fields. Twitter has every federal politician in the United States logged in to it, Gab doesn't have any.

2018-03-24 03:48:06 UTC

That's never going to be a reasonable competition.

2018-03-24 03:49:29 UTC

They hold the public forum, it's a monopoly.

2018-03-24 03:50:38 UTC

I honestly don't think so.

2018-03-24 03:50:57 UTC

They're big but, they aren't the only social media platform.

2018-03-24 03:51:29 UTC

The public forum is a very big deal.

2018-03-24 03:54:19 UTC

Furthermore, the way social media functions encourages monopolies for each function. Sure, you have Twitter, but there's not really any serious competition to that. The reason is, people use this as a common ground, if you make videos and you want to link people to your social media, you're not going to link 50 different accounts, that's unwieldy.

2018-03-24 03:55:51 UTC

I don't really mean the smaller industries, blogs and stuff, since there is competition that works that way, it's not entirely a sort of public forum as Twitter functions.

2018-03-24 03:56:00 UTC

@FLanon can't wait to support your first shot at office

2018-03-24 04:00:19 UTC

"but there's not really any serious competition to that"

2018-03-24 04:01:13 UTC

It's not serious because Twitter satisfies a majority of its users. If another company creates a better platform, and gives a greater incentive for consumers to use their product, they will move there.

2018-03-24 04:01:18 UTC

Look at FB today.

2018-03-24 04:01:24 UTC

Plummeting after the story of them selling info.

2018-03-24 04:01:32 UTC

Okay

2018-03-24 04:01:34 UTC

SpaceEx deleted their FB page because of it.

2018-03-24 04:01:36 UTC

What's replaced Facebook

2018-03-24 04:01:47 UTC

What has replaced it?

2018-03-24 04:02:15 UTC

Well nothing yet, because most of it's users are still satisfied. If they're not they can leave and use another platform.

2018-03-24 04:02:29 UTC

Or use none, the consumer just needs to not be lazy

2018-03-24 04:02:38 UTC

That's a monopoly

2018-03-24 04:02:46 UTC

no it's not oh my gosh.

2018-03-24 04:04:17 UTC

That's like going, "well Ford is plummeting, and since the market hasn't reacted that makes Toyota a monopoly."

2018-03-24 04:04:25 UTC

A car is a car.

2018-03-24 04:04:26 UTC

Things don't happen overnight in market trends.

2018-03-24 04:04:39 UTC

Ok fine, use Cocola and Pepsi.

2018-03-24 04:04:44 UTC

Coca Cola*

2018-03-24 04:04:57 UTC

Social media is very different, no one goes to their YouTube channel and list all the different cars their friends have.

2018-03-24 04:05:01 UTC

Same with soda.

2018-03-24 04:05:07 UTC

The idea that Facebook is a monopoly because there isn't another social media platform as big or bigger is jsut not true.

2018-03-24 04:05:24 UTC

It's because the nature of social media encourages monopolies.

2018-03-24 04:05:45 UTC

This is a service which does not function under competition.

2018-03-24 04:05:49 UTC

WHAT

2018-03-24 04:06:03 UTC

Of course services are effected by competition!

2018-03-24 04:06:08 UTC

Life insurance

2018-03-24 04:06:10 UTC

Facebook fulfills a different function than YouTube, than Twitter.

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