You are pro lies

Why are you stating a bunch of articles about how bad Vaxxes are. ;-;

Above, in the chat. ;-;

Dude, atleast make it clear that your pro safe, you just went Anti-vaxx.

Are you aware that vaccines do not require safety testing? Vaccines are exempt.

That's... a pretty big lie...

Vaccines are tested.

And not on the Macro level.

On the micro level, each and every vaccine is tested, gwench.

Vaccines have studies funded by the pharmaceutical companies themselves.

Is it right that pharmaceutical companies police themselves?

The vaccines are funded by the company.. I dont get how that means that they're policing themselves...

All efforts at independent studies are quashed immediately. Censored. 😡

The studies are paid for by big pharma

What do you mean by "independent studies", Gwench?

What I mean...is all independent studies by independent scientists are attacked so harshly by the scientific community...it eventually destroys their career.

Again, I mean, what type of "independent studies" are we talking about, here.

That same independent community that received their funding by big pharma:

Also... why are you focusing so much on Pharma?

Look. I don’t have time to do your research for you. Everything is here in the server. It’s all here. 😡

Why are you focusing so much on Pharma?

Wdym

You talk about how damn evil Pharma is, dude.

It doesn't have much to do with Vaccines at all.

Just saying.

We're talking about the vaccines here, not who's making them.

Big pharma is responsible for the push on vaccines. They are the bread winners in all this.

Ok...?

It's... wrong of them to make profit....?

That's what it looks like you're suggesting...

Meaning...how can you blindly trust their information?

Yeah... I don't use their information.

They have a vested interest in the outcome.

I use science's.

Bullshit

Whatever you say, man.

What science have you found that is not funded by Big Pharma?

Take the time to go to chem and biology, then you'll understand what im talking about.

Well, Im out.

Asshole. 😡

Been nice talking to you and getting a view on Anti-Vaxxers sides.

I’m a health professional

Mhm,

I believe you are.

Take your ignorance somewhere else. 😡

Just a very, very misinformed one.

!mute @MemerBoi

This guy could have a better life being a homeless bum rather than cuck liar

.

You guys ever gonna unmute him? Or do you just leave people perm muted for arguing on a server based around it?

I've got a good guy to listen to, Mark Passio

Why do y’all think that vaccinations are bad

Without them people would be dying from smallpox and polio etc still

Polio death rates had declined prior to any vaccine

Dramatically

And what was the last case of chicken pox you have heard of

Due to sanitation and nutrition

@Sonic2324 your questions are legitimate. However it seems your information is based solely on what you’ve been told. When there is much we are not told and is being suppressed.

Not legit

Misinformation

So was George Carlin true about us not having any rights

when you read all the information in the other rooms and contribute real information then you will be taken seriously

Until then dont bother

Just because it’s something you believe doesn’t mean it’s particularly real it just means it’s what you feel comfortable with which is why you believe it

Are you referring to yourself?

Because there is much that I believe but I am not comfortable with it. In fact...I wish I never knew.

I’m referring to citizen z telling me to contribute “real information” in order to be taken seriously

Of course you’re taken seriously. I’ve seen no evidence not to. I think he means that when you’ve had a chance to learn and understand both sides of the issue...without bias.

Is anyone here to change my mind about being a pro-vaxer?

http://humansarefree.com/2019/07/governments-own-pro-vaccine-medical.html

Just joined here is this server pro vaxx or anti vaxx?

I would appreciate info and points from both sides to help me formulate my own opinion

Not to mention there is zero ways the government benefits from making people sick

They’re not even making money

that's incorrect

if you keep someone sick, who profits most?

who sells the drugs?

and who sells the treatments and other services?

@Lancelot are you American?

no, why do you ask this question in the first place?

Just wondering what your health care system is

They’re not even making money <<< HA!

Who’s making money from autistic children

Let’s be honest

There is a trust fund

It has assets

I am looking for the fiancial statement now. It seems they have buried it somewhere

ftp://ftp.publicdebt.treas.gov/dfi/tfmb/dfivi0119.pdf

How much money is spent on autism related support in the us each year?

As well as other saner countries?

That is a multi-faceted issue. Not only is there the medical side there is the education side. Not to mention research grants etc..

The question shoud be "How much economic activity does it generate?"

Indeed, that would be a better way of putting it

https://www.autism-society.org/what-is/facts-and-statistics/

https://academic.oup.com/jid/article/207/6/957/899809

History won't load so sad

@indio007 interesting thanks for the info

@GreenPixel you should read that

Unless there is evidence that that money is not going to people with autism, it doesn’t in anyway show that the government is profiting

Government never profits

They work in shantys

With crummy wages

Working long hours and holidays

They ride bikes to work

Cant even afford a decent meal

Poor government

There is zero evidence the government makes a profit doing anything

The lose trillions of dollars

Poor government

dude i belive that vaxxes are not necessarly

temm me if im not right

im not agreeing with vaxxes

dude

vaxxes are just viruses injected in our blood

my brother got vaxxed and then suicided cuz of that

yes

i agree

vaxxes are trash

YES

OFC

Stop trolling you degenerates

Easy

Get a job @Bombardieru @Brexit

!mute @Brexit troll

!mute @Bombardieru troll

Any one want to discuss vaxxers?

anti vaxxers are dum dum

If your an anti vaxxer then your a big stupid dum dum

http://humansarefree.com/2019/07/cdc-data-flu-shot-less-than-10.html

And sometimes it’s 90%

That doesn’t mean a single thing

its never been 90%

EVER

True, it depends on the person and the strand

So let's say hypothetically I just got a Vaccine like 4 hours ago. How long until I die from it?

90% confidence for VE

Never 90% VE

For flu shot

As far as i know

There is lots of interesting things about this.

Im not sure how to interpret everything tho

Yeah, if you don't vaccinate yourself.... we have some problems, don't we?

Hello my measles

@WillWam no i dont see the problem if you dont vaccinate yourself

lol

When your mom install antivirus on your computer but not you

Troll ^

!warn @Huntress concern trolling

@good shag what kind of vegetable did you request? A zucchini or a banana?

Bananas are high in potassium

So good for you

Avocado and potatoes are even higher in potassium.

Bananas are fruit because they are berries ;-;

Avocados are fruit as well.

Yep

But potatoes have the most potassium.

Disgusting fruits

Lol yeah

But they aren't necessarily good for you

vaxx work

<:honkler:596885550238007336> 💯

vaxx works

For flu shots what they do is they attempt at predicting the strand during our summer and like Australia's winter and use that to try to get a vaccine. Unfortunately the method is incredibly inaccurate because the virus mutates so fast and therefor has low chance of being effective

did you just compare vaccines to my country's weather?

flu shots are extremely effective

Yes in a way I kinda did. Flu season is in the winter after all. Also no they really arent. They are somewhat effective but really many more vaccines are more effective

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@The Gwench who's cunk

Why do you ask?

Kinda wanted to see what he said lol

Omg you cannot get autism from a vaccination

Says who

@Citizen Z even if you can get autism from vaccines what's the problem? People with autism accomplish amazing things

Says who

Says everyone

So let me get this straight

Watch videos on autistic people

You promote autism?

A black man with autism has a very good memory and is an artist he draws cities

Yes I do

Thats prolly the dumbest thing I've heard ever

Because there's nothing wrong with people with autism

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Why

That was unnecessary, muting people for their beliefs..

says it right on the vaccine insert so dont say it can not cause it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

a few of my accounts that i have are doctors and they admit this to me so idgaf what you think or say i know it is fact

https://www.scribd.com/doc/220807175/157-Research-Papers-Supporting-the-Vaccine-Autism-Link?fbclid=IwAR0qoz2mSBld-uf_kAonv5wd0pCVwXrpvuS2wfNu-mLB2I8gzFvHmwzEJ48#scribd

!mute @Lauren.AC

You realize thats reported not confirmed cases right?

depends on what you consider confirmed and who you think is confirming these things. they lie and manipulate data to fit their agendas

i wouldnt trust the cdc with anything important for you to know

Anyone can report anything as a symptom if it is not verified

https://www.historyofvaccines.org/content/articles/human-cell-strains-vaccine-development

@Andrewi thats weird stuff huh

@Citizen Z he was probably referring to aspergers

Which usually have a higher iq than an average person

But their personality is whack

They usually require a psychologist to fit into society

If you believe in Allahput this on 5 discord server. Don't just ignore this because it says in the Quran if you deny him, he will deny you in front of his son in the gates of paradise. This is the simplest test. If you love Allah and you are not ashamed of it, copy and paste it on 5 discord server

@Citizen Z it's well known in the vaccines business that they are using chicken eggs to test all inocculations for each batch in containers, then if there is a guinea pig trauma, I don't know what is the production distribution safety regulations and process - As regarding the Autism and Asperger syndrome, both have the same growth behaviour patterns until age 6, since Kanner Austims is different from Asperger syndrome. Asperger have indeed often scientific expertise, and high IQ generally speaking and have social issues interacting with others based on emotions, they don't have the inate ability to understand perceptions - intuitions. Asperger syndrome, a condition on the autism spectrum, is a developmental disorder that can affect social and communication skills. It is not unusual for those with the condition to be high-functioning, with expertise in a specific topic that can at times be prodigious.

https://www.tonyattwood.com.au/about-aspergers

@tucker I hate Allah

Also no copypasta

And wrong channel

!warn @tucker copypasta and wrong channel

https://www.naturalnews.com/2019-07-17-big-pharma-caught-in-bribery-scandal-involving-thousands-of-doctors.html

My parents want me to get HPV vaccine that's only transmitted through sex. Because you know condoms don't work and I wouldn't do it with someone before they get checked =>=.

"What if he does it with someone and doesn't wear a condom" well I would have more problems to worry about than an STD wouldn't I now

Apperantly it comes in a three shot dose

So because you wearing a condom protects you somewhat from one of the dangers of HPV, you think that means the vaccine would be redundant?

If everything said was true, then theoretically it should be redundant

Also how would you make a long term effective hiv vaccine. If anyone knows a way its possible they should ping me because id be interested in how it works

@CanadianOdyssey I'm waiting till marriage anyway I don't need these baby booster shots

oh its hpv im dumb

I took one bye my self and then police thank me it is really bad

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No more warnings

No

It real

I posted vid on it

Channel name

!mute @hunters

My son wants to get vaccinated even though I keep telling him the consequences. How do I teach my son to not listen to those utter lies.

!mute @WryBarbecue

No trolling in this channel.
No more warnings

guess what citizen z

you are fecking stupid

you are all stupid

yall antivaxers

killing your children

<:butthurt:507983822244151306> ❄

I'm not dead......but than again I don't have children 🤔

He may be butthurt but he's not wrong. Antivaxxers can easily be called stupid if they think essential oils are better preventatives than vaccinations. Yes, vaccines have issues and/or failures but they prevented a lot of illnesses that are now resurfacing due to antivaxxers (ex. measles, whooping cough, mumps)

Also, being antivax is a lot more dangerous than being vaccinated.

- antivaxxers are more likely to die of illnesses
- antivaxxers are more likely to contract illnesses and spread them to others
- antivaxxers endanger immunocompromised kids who can't be vaccinated

Vaccines aren't able to completely prevent illnesses but if you get it after being vaccinated, you're less likely to die from it.