You would probably have to ask a trans activist but I would think they would be for it

https://youtu.be/mfOXnvs2sZM

https://youtu.be/Am630xkAotI

https://youtu.be/NKDzyMtYhXQ

My mom is an antivaxxer

Cool

Everytime a person slides my posts with irrelevant comments ill be reposting my recent info

https://youtu.be/Am630xkAotI

https://youtu.be/NKDzyMtYhXQ

https://youtu.be/mfOXnvs2sZM

Even Trump thinks that vaccines are needed.

Lol

vaccines are so good

they save lives

Citizen Z

yes

the reason Trump has said that is according to some Q-followers a sign that there are safer vaccines coming, it should however be looked at with scrutiny

furthermore over the reason that some vaccines are necessary, not all

https://youtu.be/UaB4go7SPaI

I'm sure the image the MSM used might have been photoshopped. What does it take to photoshop a healthy skin into a disordered skin?

It was photoshopped

Promoting vaccines is a big business

Stock image

it has no risks, obviously

for now on

They are saying anyone who questions vaccines are liars but they are the ones who are lying.

this is what I'm exactly observing, it takes just the questioning and disbelief in the status quo to get attacked, labeled and ridiculed

most of the time, proponents make ad hominem attacks

It was a commercial for Merck

exactly

Merck pays nbc

For advertising

so do other pharmaceutical companies and vaccine manufacturers

Yes many

on that, we should make an infographic that's easy to understand for normies

Yeah prolly good idea

to show how pharmaceutical companies pay mainstream media and how they advertise for their products

involve some images, mark the details

and especially show the connections with the arrows and descriptions of those arrows

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/440935-colorado-governor-says-he-wont-sign-bill-that-aims-to-increase%3famp

https://youtu.be/0oNLeartdeg

The Guvernour of Colorado is very stupid

@Mr.MIttens So you are against the right to choose what happens to your body?

Will you sign up to strap people to tables and forcibly inject them?

@Citizen Z are you not?

Im for the right to choose what happens to your own body

So would you strap me down and inject me full of every vaccine?

Against my will?

It might take more than one of you

Just curious if you will joining the group of forcing others to bow to your will through fear, extortion, threats and violence?

i mean

wasnt the plan

Then you have your answer

The governor is not stupid

He is not going to be that person strapping ppl to tables

Governor

??

You miss the conversation above?

nah just forgot for a moment

I wonder what agency will forcibly inject everyone

You know they are saying you cant fly if you're not injected

And if its been a long time since last injections, you cant fly unless you get jabbed again

They are using threats to inject ppl

This sound like the place you wanna live?

Government, media and sheep citizens telling you what to do?

Ok, i was more here to learn about the anti vax viewpoint

so u might need to explain whats wrong with all this

Who said this is anti vax viewpoint?

This is about my rights

My right to decide what goes into my body

If you want the vaccine then get it

No one is stopping you

I wont tell anyone not to get a vaccine

Its their choice

Vaccines work

BEING ANTIVAX IS GAY

FAX BRUH

im part of the fax clan

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/04/26/polio-worker-shot-dead-pakistan-third-killed-latest-vaccination/

if you think free choice is anti-vax, then you're supporting an authoritarian idea that violates basic property rights

your body is your property, not the state's property

furthermore, if you want to see the most extreme form of what's absolute, then you talk about those willing to ban vaccines

which is also authoritarian and coercive

but in another way

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argumentum ad consequentiam...
This fallacy is being repeated again and again. Should it be better to make it mandatory to learn critical thinking?

>>ban @Doggo

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@Citizen Z Dude you muted me with no reason? Wow.

Wow

He has a reason obviously

dude i can ban you if you prefer

I am on your side @Citizen Z I like how you run things

@Wkgm0604 it literally stated unspecified reason

He has his own personal reasons he doesn’t want to share @Pinnaplia

@Wkgm0604 So he is threatening to ban me for reasons he won't tell? That's a first for me.

I've literally done nothing but be in civil debates.

And provide very blunt viewpoints while rarely providing my opinion

I wont repeat what you said. Dont say it again

http://humansarefree.com/2019/04/mass-sterilization-kenyan-doctors-find.html

I'm guessing ur talking about my comment on the no fly policy. Because I specifically said I was not providing my opinion. So nobody can really be offended. I was stating it's either we do things the timid way, the extreme way, or something I'm between. But doing nothing isn't something the government will do. Disease is a bad thing, and THIS is the only part of this you can be mad at me for but you'd look dumb. But disease is always a bad thing, people dying isn't good unless we need population control for some crazy situation.

Gross

So will you be the doing the population control?

Explain to me how your view of the world works

Who does the forced injections? Who decides what areas are to be infected with disease?

Crazy
Situation
Those were the key words dude.

So who controls the people in your world?

https://youtu.be/0ZGbIKd0XrM

This is natural selection simulated on a coputer

http://humansarefree.com/2019/04/court-ruling-confirms-mercks-gardasil.html

To those who think vaccines dont cause autism. It states they do on the vaccine insert

Along with Sids

Some reports

I’d also rather be autistic than be dead of measles

@Reesey It doesn't matter if I watch the video or not

Autistic and happy

I'm not talking about the video

wot

Even if I did already watch it or not

@Reesey Listen

@AstralSentient

You say you get some shots but not others?

That's all I want to know @Reesey

@Abe Lover

anti the vaxx real is

have i Dyslexia

"I will get the shots for polio and hep and stuff like that, but I won't do alot of prescribed drugs or flu shots ever"

Alright you did answer it

I find it interesting that some people are so adamant about the placebo testing for vaccines

Flu shots take none

And by that, the antivax

shots flu bad are

I don't take flu shots

I live

Don't get hurt

same

Or sick

VAXXERS apperantly keeping me safe

So I'm good lol

friend my sick got after flu shot

2 weeks

Me neither, I personally didn't find an immediate correlation. Others got sick even with vaccines while I was able to get through without vaccines.
So there are other important factors into the mix

they expencive are

It almost is just luck in many cases

Not getting the flu in a school year

died sister cancer maybe birth control it did

years 37 old

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eR6NEv6yCEg http://humansarefree.com/2019/04/zero-us-measles-deaths-in-10-years-but.html measles is not some deadly disease like you think . they have blown it way out of proportion. just like the chicken pox no need for a vax there either but they pushed one, if you get it naturally it is a life long immunity, if you get the vaccine it is not!

i had the measles when i was a kid and it did not kill me or any of my friends that got it too

moms used to have parties for kids who had the measles or chicken pox with kids that had not had it yet to get it over with and out of the way

Just because it didnt kill you doesnt mean it cant

Vaccinate your kids parents

We don't need a polio outbreak

Then dont eat poop

Then don't ever touch water numb skull

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I’m anti vaxed so plz don’t sneeze on me

Hello

Well i will

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Soz

I’m new

Hlo

@AstralSentient vaccines are supposeed to reduce the sickness from infecting you. If we put that in account let's say there 100 people and ouf the 100 there are 10 out of 100 aren't vaccinated the 90 shouldn't be infected since the vaccine should be protecting them. Also I would doubt all of the ten would be infected anyway since alot of people just get vaccinated whatever they are prescribed.

That didn't happen with the school rules flu shot, people still got sick, there were other factors washing out the purpose of the vaccine. Whether it helped in any significant sense would be a statistical issue

and even when it comes to the evidence, most of it remains unclear as other vaccines or just the adjuvant are used as placebos. With a short latency

latency is key

https://governmentslaves.news/2019/04/28/u-s-navy-acknowledges-mmr-vaccine-caused-viral-mumps-outbreak/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_29vdSjsYw

```To all vacc supporters >.> ``` ~

pic relevant to discussion. Use it to identify shills

on having autism though, the life expectancy is 36

this applies especially to those who got a severe form of ASD, so severe they can't take care of themselves and depend on psychologists, doctors and medications

growing out of it is nearly impossible in such a system where it's seen as genetic, therefore it's hard to get rid of this diagnosis. Ways to do so is by either stating the diagnosis is a misdiagnosis, state then an obvious environmental cause like mercury poisoning. Or just get a new identity (changing the citizen service number and names)

I never understood the placebo thing for testing vaccines

those critical to vaccines demand a study done with at least a latency of ten years, an inert placebo control (saline) group and further evaluation of health and the vaccine it's effectivity

most of the time, the placebo group used is a false placebo, that either only contained the previous vaccine or just adjuvants

which adds to the inaccuracy of determination of safety and effectiveness

Everyone should get the children vaccinated. I love Vaccines!

ICEBOX HIM

@Citizen Z

hey vaccinate your kids

I do vaccine to keep me clean

excellent

Vaccinate autism, problem solved.

Yes

Vaccinate to keep yourself clean?

Do you know the ingredients?

Yes! They make us feel good and stay healthier!

What are the ingredients? @boonie1020

@Citizen Z typically the active ingredient, plus different preservatives and shit, like aluminum, and yeast and gelatin

ello

ello, fellow americans

@indio007 Basically how it works

The more people vaccinated the less risk there is

ideologically, it's called collectivism

to be more accurate, medical collectivism

name at least two medical collectivist theories

@Pinnaplia so why did a mumps outbreak take place in a US navy vessel?

one extra detail: vaccination rate in military is 100%

Because diseases, when allowed to exist, can mutate. These mutations can cause vaccines to be ineffective. That's why mumps and measles basically didn't exist (in the US) before this movement against vaccinations started in full swing. A mutation that made the vaccine ineffective would be the most likely explanation, anyway

how is it then possible that the highly vaccinated groups are having highest numbers of these diseases?

Because they... Aren't? The vast majority of people in the US that are vaccinated is going exponentially down. Either people not getting their kids vaccinated, or not renewing their vaccine. So when people who are vaccinated are exposed to newer, mutated versions of the disease, they subsequently get affected.

That's not to say like, immediately trust the yearly flu shot or new vaccines coming out in response to the growing epidemics. Do your research on their development, make sure they're safely producing it and using the modern methods and all that

high vaccination rates, think again

speaking of their development and safety studies, mostly they are 1) done by the manufacturer, 2) not tested with an inert placebo group and 3) have no latency 5-10 years or longer

even older people are getting this disease despite vaccination

No like, the amount of vaccinations in the US is four times lower than in the last decade.

1) you can always find a CDC study, that's like.. A requirement. Just in general.

2) evidence they're not? That's a hefty claim.

3) vaccines are known for having to be renewed. Renew them at the dates in which your doctor says they should be

Vaccines cause autism

Vaccines are lies that dumb doctors make

I agree

Did you know?

Expecially white males

If you’re child gets vaccines he’s more likely to be raped

your*

Did you know essential oils cure gayness

And cancer

You just need to rub it in the right spot

And mix it with cocoa butter

studies from the CDC haven't a long term, furthermore to have a good reproducability, a study should be done by a third party, which is an organisation with no links to the two first parties (regulator and manufacturer). Furthermore the CDC has patents on some vaccines.

long term effectiveness is a different story, as vaccines are working on part of the immune system, yet not all of it

antibodies which are the result of either the disease of the vaccine are indeed present. At vaccination however, not all parts of the immune system are involved. This includes from which points the virus normally would go in (nose, memory T cells, memory B cells of the immune system, etc)

on treating cancer, one new treatment that has come is using the measles virus

on herd immunity, it's based on the old textbooks. It is however a hypothesis

@Citizen Z

vaccine failures are increasing if you look good at the data. Don't rely on authorities

https://www.naturalnews.com/2019-04-30-measle-infected-baby-photos-faked-by-nbc-news-mass-hysteria.html

https://www.naturalnews.com/2019-05-01-merck-faked-mumps-vaccine-research-released-faulty-vaccine.html

https://www.naturalnews.com/2019-03-06-genetic-sequencing-science-breakthrough-just-proved-that-measles-outbreaks-are-caused-by-the-measles-vaccine.html

Millions of doses of vaccines are administered to children in this country each year. Ensuring that those vaccines are potent, sterile, and safe requires the addition of minute amounts of chemical additives.
Chemicals are added to vaccines to inactivate a virus or bacteria and stabilize the vaccine, helping to preserve the vaccine and prevent it from losing its potency over time.
The amount of chemical additives found in vaccines is very small.
All routinely recommended pediatric vaccines manufactured for the U.S. market are available in formulations that contain no thimerosal or only trace amounts.

Common substances found in vaccines include:
Aluminum gels or salts of aluminum which are added as adjuvants to help the vaccine stimulate a better response. Adjuvants help promote an earlier, more potent response, and more persistent immune response to the vaccine.
Antibiotics which are added to some vaccines to prevent the growth of germs (bacteria) during production and storage of the vaccine. No vaccine produced in the United States contains penicillin.
Egg protein is found in yellow fever and most influenza vaccines, which are prepared using chicken eggs. Ordinarily, persons who are able to eat eggs or egg products safely can receive these vaccines.
Formaldehyde is used to inactivate bacterial products for toxoid vaccines, (these are vaccines that use an inactive bacterial toxin to produce immunity.) It is also used to kill unwanted viruses and bacteria that might contaminate the vaccine during production. Most formaldehyde is removed from the vaccine before it is packaged.
Monosodium glutamate (MSG) and 2-phenoxy-ethanol which are used as stabilizers in a few vaccines to help the vaccine remain unchanged when the vaccine is exposed to heat, light, acidity, or humidity.
Thimerosal is a mercury-containing preservative that is added to vials of vaccine that contain more than one dose to prevent contamination and growth of potentially harmful bacteria.

So I would have to say vaccines are excellent.

@Lancelot Vaccinations reduce the risk of disease by a lot. Now really think on this one. A US Navy Vessel full of soldiers. Idk about you, but I'm dumb af and I already know how it both started and spread.

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http://humansarefree.com/2019/04/zero-us-measles-deaths-in-10-years-but.html vaccines are the cause of the spreading. you become a live carrier of the virus and shed it over the next few weeks and can spread it. look at the polio outbreak in syria it was the VDPV version of polio not the WPV. you guys should do more research before you start chiming in on stuff you got no clue about. you just BELIEVE what you are told period nothing more

lol vaccines are not bad

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@Alexandre

death rates from infectious disease declined before the introduction of vaccines. This primarily has to do with hygiene, clean water and proper nutrition

although infectious disease has declined, chronic disease is still on the rise

now this comes to a question of inevitability, where you get a choice between the two