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2018-08-31 20:16:29 UTC

Lol

2018-08-31 20:16:32 UTC

I don’t really know the culinary capabilities of Filipino Mercenaries

2018-08-31 20:16:36 UTC

🤔

2018-08-31 20:16:45 UTC

lmao

2018-08-31 20:16:53 UTC

This is why you always learn how to cook

2018-08-31 20:16:58 UTC

sparkles, f.e/g.e/otf?

2018-08-31 20:17:16 UTC

So you don't get hungry Philipino mercenaries

2018-08-31 20:17:22 UTC

otf?

2018-08-31 20:17:25 UTC

I'm totally off.

2018-08-31 20:17:32 UTC

On the fence

2018-08-31 20:17:33 UTC

undecided/on the fence

2018-08-31 20:17:34 UTC

Excuse me it’s Filipino with a capital “f”

2018-08-31 20:17:44 UTC

oh i'm otf i suppose too then

2018-08-31 20:17:45 UTC

Smh

2018-08-31 20:17:47 UTC

Excuse me, I can't spell

2018-08-31 20:17:59 UTC

With a capital "5"

2018-08-31 20:18:09 UTC

Shmeh

2018-08-31 20:18:19 UTC

you just order

2018-08-31 20:18:21 UTC

so on the whole, it won't last a generation thing, any examples i could read into of what "not" to do?

2018-08-31 20:18:25 UTC

or live off cereal

2018-08-31 20:18:30 UTC

Plenty

2018-08-31 20:18:52 UTC

There are a whole lot in upper new york

2018-08-31 20:18:56 UTC

Were

2018-08-31 20:19:33 UTC

In my mind I am making this sound more and more like that movie with Leonardo DiCaprio where is lives on an island.

2018-08-31 20:19:56 UTC

You mean Footloose?

2018-08-31 20:20:06 UTC

Nvm, I was thinking of something else

2018-08-31 20:20:07 UTC

And it's like a paradise

2018-08-31 20:20:16 UTC

Hahaha. Footloose!

2018-08-31 20:20:35 UTC

lol I don't wanna live off the grid, just we gonna build our own grid; and have some satilite uplink kinda dealio

2018-08-31 20:20:41 UTC

Let me look it up. It's a good movie. Totally worth a watch. At least once.

2018-08-31 20:20:53 UTC

Like Footloose?

2018-08-31 20:21:14 UTC

....

2018-08-31 20:21:20 UTC

Really

2018-08-31 20:21:24 UTC

Footloose

2018-08-31 20:21:27 UTC

The Beach

2018-08-31 20:21:30 UTC

The Beach?

2018-08-31 20:21:42 UTC

I once lived by the beach

2018-08-31 20:21:44 UTC

On a bay

2018-08-31 20:21:55 UTC

Oneida Community is the first one that comes to mind

2018-08-31 20:21:56 UTC

I thought my life was like a movie

2018-08-31 20:22:00 UTC

I called it

2018-08-31 20:22:04 UTC

“The Bay”

2018-08-31 20:22:06 UTC

I live by the beach now.

2018-08-31 20:22:10 UTC

Directed by Michael Bay

2018-08-31 20:22:20 UTC

I feel like it was meant to be

2018-08-31 20:22:28 UTC

It was a pretty great movie life

2018-08-31 20:23:24 UTC

I like this game

2018-08-31 20:23:32 UTC

Ikr

2018-08-31 20:23:40 UTC

I already have the high score

2018-08-31 20:23:54 UTC

You’re right behind me

2018-08-31 20:24:00 UTC

You at the best! I would even saw the GOAT

2018-08-31 20:24:07 UTC

Gotta make sure I don’t mess up

2018-08-31 20:24:09 UTC

Say

2018-08-31 20:28:15 UTC

to be honest I'm not even sure I'd want to make it into a lifestyle for "life" i'm sure you can only eat shrooms/dmt and meditate for so long before it really don't matter where you do it

2018-08-31 20:28:46 UTC

Very confident that eventually would stop working.

2018-08-31 20:30:55 UTC

We talking about mushrooms in here?

2018-08-31 20:31:00 UTC

i am just giving you warning if you do set up something like that

2018-08-31 20:31:05 UTC

well it’s just from the scope of information I've read into you only "need" some cabin in the woods kinda deal when you overcoming your ego and rooting yourself within a new world of spirituality. Once you get into the practice more and more (where talking months/years but not like 3 years i hope) eventually... hopefully you overcome enough demons that you don't require such extremes

2018-08-31 20:31:10 UTC

I've done mushrooms a bunch of times

2018-08-31 20:31:13 UTC

good stuff

2018-08-31 20:31:47 UTC

but did you do them terence mckenna style?

2018-08-31 20:31:59 UTC

mushrooms very bad

2018-08-31 20:32:25 UTC

no take bad bad drugs

2018-08-31 20:32:26 UTC

I like mushrooms in my omelette

2018-08-31 20:32:36 UTC

reeee

2018-08-31 20:32:51 UTC

I don't know who that is tbh

2018-08-31 20:33:02 UTC

Hey

2018-08-31 20:33:04 UTC

:(

2018-08-31 20:33:13 UTC

I've just taken them quite a few times with close friends over the years

2018-08-31 20:33:13 UTC

so just wondering "why" are some of you here, like on this server? like is there any goal in mind?

2018-08-31 20:33:52 UTC

I was and have been listening to loads of info about how the Earth could be flat.....

2018-08-31 20:33:52 UTC

nope

2018-08-31 20:34:04 UTC

^

2018-08-31 20:34:26 UTC

I'm just here because Z invited me and I know and like some of the people here.

2018-08-31 20:34:37 UTC

I find conspiracy stuff interesting

2018-08-31 20:34:39 UTC

i am here cause i bitched about not being here

2018-08-31 20:34:46 UTC

@Sparkles okay... but for me "that" was a week or two at most abour 3 years ago... it lead directly into "occult"/essoteric teachings/views and beyond

2018-08-31 20:34:48 UTC

Yeah, peper didn't want to be left out

2018-08-31 20:34:56 UTC

I don't like echo chambers

2018-08-31 20:35:10 UTC

So it's different here

2018-08-31 20:35:37 UTC

right @Satan its why i'm not active on discord much these days

2018-08-31 20:35:38 UTC

Also what pod said

2018-08-31 20:35:53 UTC

Because? @Mr.J

2018-08-31 20:36:09 UTC

Echo chambers.

2018-08-31 20:36:37 UTC

echo chamber

2018-08-31 20:37:04 UTC

I just still don't get how it could be flat

2018-08-31 20:37:17 UTC

No matter how hard I try. It doesn't make sense.

2018-08-31 20:37:36 UTC

Its fun discussing alternate opinions, I get bored with like-minded people

2018-08-31 20:37:42 UTC

minded people

2018-08-31 20:38:24 UTC

Fuck you tbh

2018-08-31 20:38:27 UTC

LOL

2018-08-31 20:38:29 UTC

tbh

2018-08-31 20:38:33 UTC

echo

2018-08-31 20:38:35 UTC

echo

2018-08-31 20:38:39 UTC

echo

2018-08-31 20:38:48 UTC

Echo

2018-08-31 20:39:05 UTC

*pokes peper*

2018-08-31 20:39:22 UTC

peper

2018-08-31 20:39:29 UTC

Shut it

2018-08-31 20:39:35 UTC

well for me it never did become clear that the shape of the earth mattered, because the background/surrounding stuff all pointed towards this just being a "dream" state that our souls are bound to by default. so there is no need for anything beyond the earth in this "tutorial" land so to speak, but the fact is once you expand your soul's potential or what not, when you awake the next day you might embody a avatar within a world of greater potential such as space etc

2018-08-31 20:39:42 UTC

it

2018-08-31 20:41:34 UTC

I try to think what I would do differently depending on the shape of the earth. And I cant think of one thing I would do differently then i do now. But i think it would be interesting to know. Although i don't think I will ever know the ultimate truth.

2018-08-31 20:43:02 UTC

well for most people it leads them into the thoughts regarding "god" or some overarching intelligence, the main differencing being sphere earth=science-godless ignorance and do as tho will. While flat earth means there’s a creator, and a judgment, spirituality etc

2018-08-31 20:43:21 UTC

🤘

2018-08-31 20:45:07 UTC

🤔

2018-08-31 20:45:22 UTC

Interesting

2018-08-31 20:45:40 UTC

I mean, there are atheist flat earthers.

2018-08-31 20:46:16 UTC

I don't know how that works, but it is a thing.

2018-08-31 20:46:27 UTC

And there are a lot of theist globies

2018-08-31 20:46:43 UTC

Honestly the reality I’ve come to find most true lies in these few views.

The god of this world is one of blood, war, and worship; referred to as satan/mother earth

The God is one of lifeless/timeless/egoless justice, one who does not force his will upon any and all for there good or not, but will come to those through the love of others/luck... potentially.

And lastly being that within our reality is the potential to take “dream” states to depths of internal reflection/growth beyond that of anything most people can comprehend. This journey brings greater depths to passions/emotions and thus to life itself.

Could ramble on for hours about this kinda stuff

2018-08-31 20:47:41 UTC

<:ohheck:485078351162376202>

2018-08-31 20:48:48 UTC

Oof

2018-08-31 20:48:50 UTC

That's one point of view.

2018-08-31 20:48:52 UTC

That's a bold claim

2018-08-31 20:49:06 UTC

Pretty bold, pretty big one as well.

2018-08-31 20:49:12 UTC

To be really honest tho, even “those” views are not 100% even in my own mind lol there are so many ways to look at it that i can’t be 100% about anything

2018-08-31 20:49:14 UTC

God is a pure goody two shows

2018-08-31 20:49:18 UTC

Nice

2018-08-31 20:49:44 UTC

I've heard theists say they believe in God, never heard anyone who claims to know what God is

2018-08-31 20:50:17 UTC

Its why i stopped looking for egotistical justifications for actions beyond my own comprehension within systems of expression with whom i’m ignorant of

2018-08-31 20:50:24 UTC

<:lul:484994724118134784>

2018-08-31 20:52:05 UTC

God being egoless would be so unlike the god we know

2018-08-31 20:52:37 UTC

God is not god, two things very different that the christain bible draws no meaning from

2018-08-31 20:53:04 UTC

God is god alright.

2018-08-31 20:53:14 UTC

Well yeah god is god

2018-08-31 20:53:39 UTC

I think my view on God is the same to be honest. I would not live any differently if God was God or if God was not God....

2018-08-31 20:54:10 UTC

Well in the context I’m meaning it from, god is referred to as the worldly god, the one of this world. While God is the one beyond and of the background energies that make up reality, the God of light/love who is the operating system god and us work within

2018-08-31 20:54:15 UTC

But is god egoless and always does justice? I really don't think so

2018-08-31 20:54:45 UTC

I see.

2018-08-31 20:54:56 UTC

god is an expression of ego, God is the expression of egolessness

2018-08-31 20:55:08 UTC

There aren't separate Gods for everything.

2018-08-31 20:56:01 UTC

God is egoistic

2018-08-31 20:56:45 UTC

maybe idk, there's so many ways to look at these things that in the end all that really matters is what/who/how you act

2018-08-31 20:57:08 UTC

Possibly.

2018-08-31 20:57:17 UTC

I mean if someone creates a species then threatens to send them to hell if they don't worship him

2018-08-31 20:57:22 UTC

That's kind of egoistic

2018-08-31 20:57:49 UTC

those are not the words of "God" but egoistic words of fearful men

2018-08-31 20:58:47 UTC

one thing many of my studies lead to was just how much of the bible is fear mongering bullshit from worldly/satanic men pushing dogma for their own power over damnation

2018-08-31 20:58:57 UTC

Ah that's fair, yes

2018-08-31 20:59:19 UTC

But then how do we know god is just not something created by men to manipulate and control the masses

2018-08-31 20:59:28 UTC

Religion is a pretty damn powerful tool

2018-08-31 21:00:02 UTC

It was at some point.

2018-08-31 21:00:12 UTC

And somewhat is now.

2018-08-31 21:00:13 UTC

It still is though

2018-08-31 21:00:26 UTC

I suppose.

2018-08-31 21:00:37 UTC

The act of channeling is one done through the lense of ego, and thus the interpirations/inspirations are easily tainted by fear/lusts. It’s within the yin yang like nature of truths and lies within the bible that you can pick apart what is of “God” and god

2018-08-31 21:01:20 UTC

It used to be more powerful, we see the effects of it reducing

2018-08-31 21:04:41 UTC

I mean, that recent Catholic church pedo thing that was exposed.

2018-08-31 21:04:57 UTC

"rescent"

2018-08-31 21:05:07 UTC

They got away with it for like 80+ years.

2018-08-31 21:05:22 UTC

Nice spelling.

2018-08-31 21:05:33 UTC

They still get away with it, nothing has changed.

2018-08-31 21:05:57 UTC

Hm?

2018-08-31 21:06:02 UTC

I highly doubt that anything will change for the better, it's a rigged game and probably meant to stay as such.

2018-08-31 21:06:07 UTC

thank you

2018-08-31 21:06:10 UTC

i do try

2018-08-31 21:06:11 UTC

Well damn.

2018-08-31 21:06:15 UTC

Personally I believe the creative nature of humanity among the masses within their ability to “imagine”/visualize and thus synthesize externalized sensory inputs has lead many to dogmatic indoctrinations of their own creation... furthermore its come to my knowledge that within these potentials of visualization etc that “others” can take shape/form and manipulate/interact within said realms beyond the flesh, and its within these altered states of mind/manifestation that many are brought into terms with “reality” through fear/control of forces that may very well be of their own creation, or worse yet of those around them. To be honest the whole Illuminati thing just references just how deep these extra sensory perceptions are within the public domain/society.

2018-08-31 21:06:55 UTC

So how do you think the earth came to be again?

2018-08-31 21:07:22 UTC

As far as the origins go, it's down to philosophizing and trying to make sense of different theories, we don't know for sure

2018-08-31 21:07:46 UTC

I believe it's a creation of the Demiurge

2018-08-31 21:08:10 UTC

^^^ something like that is my beliefe too

2018-08-31 21:08:12 UTC

Demiurge?

2018-08-31 21:08:21 UTC

Demiurge=god

2018-08-31 21:08:31 UTC

Oh.

2018-08-31 21:08:33 UTC

but God=opperating system all runs within

2018-08-31 21:08:50 UTC

🤔

2018-08-31 21:08:53 UTC

*heads back to his simple accounting homework*

2018-08-31 21:09:26 UTC

So basically one God that controls everything nature on Earth.

2018-08-31 21:10:12 UTC

i like polythestic religions more

2018-08-31 21:10:59 UTC

well God could be the background controler of stuff like that, but most likely "god" is the one who makes shit hit the fan, and God allows it but in his own way/time idk lol its a lot of circular logic to be honest

2018-08-31 21:11:14 UTC

The Demiurge is basically the Creator of the material world, and it is represented with different names through different religions and/or ancient cultures, but the Demiurge is a dualistic fool in my opinion, and might as well be The Devil Himself so to speak. They snapped at the realization that, they are not capable of creating perfection, because they are imperfect themselves and I might sound harsh, but that's just my two cents.

2018-08-31 21:12:15 UTC

The only difference is that, some believe it was created perfectly but then later on it was corrupted, but I believe it always meant to be imperfect and it will stay as such imo.

2018-08-31 21:12:36 UTC

one "real" world tip is that we each have the ability to internaly create words of ower own desire, thus we can break the chains the demiurge has over our souls

2018-08-31 21:14:20 UTC

I mean, I personally believe he is just watching as of now. Not actively doing anything regarding bringing storms or earthquakes. Nothing like that, maybe small things like blessings and whatnot.

2018-08-31 21:17:29 UTC

Some of the stuff I read a long while back spoke about how 2012 was suppose to be the marker of a global shifting of energy; where this “old” energy that empowered a lot of fear/power lust etc was starting to weaken, and thus today we have fewer people who feel empowered within rape/war etc. Now weather that’s a product of humanity on a whole or of cosmic gods beyond i can’t say, just that the very thought of this concept breeds more “light” within reality so who’s to say.

2018-08-31 21:18:08 UTC

🤔

2018-08-31 21:19:25 UTC

I mean, just think about it for a second, watching the world get worse by each day and on top of all that, that thing can see all the suffering, and the ridiculousness that is occuring...people will just say; "Oh, but you have free-will, which also allows for evil, so...The Creator can't come back immediately and punish you for every sin that you commit, or else people would worship it out of fear, (not that they aren't doing that already) so because we have free-will, it also allows for people to commit some pretty sick things", but I definitely don't remember having any free-will choices to come here, unless that memory was erased , nor did I have an option not to be sinless, because I was already given a corrupt flesh, which I'm meant to supposedly fight it constantly, so I don't sin...just because somebody was not competent enough to create me perfect and to be sinless, you don't need to be a pre-programmed puppet robot, you could've been given a sinless spirit, but nah...you were sent back to this hellhole anyway, and then on top of all that, you have to go through guilt-trips, etc

2018-08-31 21:20:48 UTC

whos says the world is getting worse?

2018-08-31 21:21:03 UTC

i would say the world is getting better

2018-08-31 21:21:24 UTC

Well, it depends on what you get off of really

2018-08-31 21:21:26 UTC

Me.

2018-08-31 21:21:31 UTC

It's not my cup of tea

2018-08-31 21:21:41 UTC

how is the world getting worse?

2018-08-31 21:22:40 UTC

If God is doing anything major, I'd probably say the California fires for pretty obvious reasons.

2018-08-31 21:22:58 UTC

It's getting more ridiculous by the day, and you can't see it? People are being brainwashed, desensitized, and mind-controlled. Most people are debt-slaves and they work themselves off to death, and innocent people are suffering because a bunch of greedy old hags want to make profit.

2018-08-31 21:23:00 UTC

Gotta say Light, you should give the emerald tablets of thoth a read

2018-08-31 21:23:17 UTC

light, there were literal debt slaves

2018-08-31 21:23:23 UTC

in the 1600's

2018-08-31 21:23:26 UTC

*were*

2018-08-31 21:23:43 UTC

thats my point. there were debt slaves

2018-08-31 21:23:48 UTC

not any more

2018-08-31 21:23:54 UTC

The situation was still better back then, because at least they knew that they were slaves lol

2018-08-31 21:24:22 UTC

But hey, a best slave is one who thinks that its free, and it will perform more in that mindset, so no need for further whipping.

2018-08-31 21:24:23 UTC

ok, so you want to go back to the 1700's then, have fun

2018-08-31 21:25:11 UTC

“People” like mindless leadership, the burden of thought is to much for many so the price to pay for thoughtlessness is often a form of slavery they conform too; it’s not that something/somebody is brainwashing them, its they they seek to be comfortably numb within there sins; if they had to be perfect they’d want everything to be perfect for them, thus many don’t seek beyond what they do.

2018-08-31 21:25:13 UTC

have fun working on a farm all day, barely scratching out a life and having it be all ruined in a few days

2018-08-31 21:25:20 UTC

👍

2018-08-31 21:25:29 UTC

But yeah, you go do me a favor and read some Jewish-mysticism and see how religious you are, alright bud? Thanks.

2018-08-31 21:25:40 UTC

me?

2018-08-31 21:25:44 UTC

Yes, you.

2018-08-31 21:26:14 UTC

light, i have read these same arguements many times before. written in the 1700's

2018-08-31 21:27:26 UTC

they were written, by farmers in the south and west who didnt like how the north east was industrializing

2018-08-31 21:27:31 UTC

This has nothing to do with the subject, you still haven't realized that everything you've hook line & sinked has an older origin, but just because they call it; "scientific", therefore it must be so. No need for experiments or anything, just follow your disciples and follow the good news of scientism.

2018-08-31 21:27:45 UTC

so, if you dont like "wage slavery"that is the time period you need to go back to

2018-08-31 21:27:57 UTC

I gotta admit, they are fucking brilliant lol

2018-08-31 21:28:14 UTC

i am talking about capitalism not science

2018-08-31 21:28:59 UTC

i am saying, if you dont like capitalism then you need to go back to the 1700's and work on a farm

2018-08-31 21:29:14 UTC

or maybe a small craftman

2018-08-31 21:30:00 UTC

I already have my own business going, but I do plan on purchasing some land and working on a farm and it is a good idea actually, I do want to grow some farm food.

2018-08-31 21:30:41 UTC

nah we just need less shareholder “ran” corporations, we need companies where the employee’s are the shareholders and the communities/people they provide for are the driving force behind change.... Not bigger cuts for investors etc

2018-08-31 21:30:44 UTC

Still gotta stabilize myself

2018-08-31 21:31:16 UTC

i dont think you understand, you need basically everyone to work on small farms, grow all there own food, make most things themselves. You wont have heavy machines to do it. Just a simple plow and an ox or two.

2018-08-31 21:31:35 UTC

@Mr.J i agree. there are some things that need to be changed.

2018-08-31 21:32:33 UTC

Well here’s the thing, if each community/city etc backed specific farms etc rather than walmart and other middle men, then the “power” over sales these money hungry beasts have will dwindle

2018-08-31 21:33:06 UTC

What's wrong with using tools that were invented by mechanical engineers? It's no harm to use some modern-day technology and I wasn't talking about unconscious objects.

2018-08-31 21:33:43 UTC

because they wouldnt exist without the industrial revolution, which wouldnt happen if capitalism wasnt a thing

2018-08-31 21:34:22 UTC

Well light the problem comes from the sources of said parts, if “we” collectively shift like this the systems that provide these machines/components will shut down and you’ll need some local shop etc to build your 40 thousand dollar part

2018-08-31 21:34:38 UTC

you have the same problem the South did pre Civil War, no capital to invest since all the money is in land

2018-08-31 21:39:00 UTC

One thing i look forward to regarding this kinda “shift” is more personalized products and relationships with creators, like imagine working with your mechanics to slowly build your dream car etc and it not costing you 20 grand

2018-08-31 21:40:36 UTC

well, what light is talking about is walking backwards

2018-08-31 21:41:04 UTC

he basically wants us to go to post revolution America

2018-08-31 21:41:56 UTC

mmm well that’s just because he isn't knowledgeable in the "future” potential within hydroponics etc

2018-08-31 21:42:08 UTC

weed is cool 😎

2018-08-31 21:43:30 UTC

@Livxly Dxll if understand you correctly, i suggest reading things written by Thomas Jefferson

2018-08-31 21:43:54 UTC

and his dabates with Hamilton

2018-08-31 21:45:24 UTC

I personally don't live in the United States at the moment, nor do I care about the the 32d Scottish rite *Founding Fathers*, I'm good.

2018-08-31 21:45:52 UTC

i only suggeted it since he agrees with what you are saying

2018-08-31 21:45:57 UTC

🤷

2018-08-31 21:46:17 UTC

Thanks for the recommendation, but I'm alright.

2018-08-31 21:52:57 UTC

so what are your guys views of dna, I've heard a lot of crazy shit, mostly all pointing towards “us” being a product of higher intelligences (emerald tablets of thoth)

2018-08-31 22:02:12 UTC

..

2018-08-31 23:14:20 UTC

The DNA Structure looks like 2 serpents combined together to me

2018-09-01 06:57:35 UTC

GET BYPASSED BITCHES

2018-09-01 06:58:23 UTC

FIGHT MEH

2018-09-01 06:58:27 UTC

o,o

2018-09-01 06:58:34 UTC

dammit

2018-09-01 06:58:39 UTC

i moved it up

2018-09-01 06:58:46 UTC

Locking all of the channels now.

2018-09-01 06:58:48 UTC

i got a warning for spamming spam

2018-09-01 06:58:53 UTC

Lel

2018-09-01 06:58:54 UTC

Spam

2018-09-01 06:59:23 UTC

Piss

2018-09-01 07:00:18 UTC

fuck

2018-09-01 18:25:14 UTC

Bully

2018-09-01 18:49:13 UTC

Send nudes

2018-09-01 18:49:21 UTC

:911:

2018-09-01 19:30:02 UTC

no

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