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I don’t really know the culinary capabilities of Filipino Mercenaries
This is why you always learn how to cook
So you don't get hungry Philipino mercenaries
I'm totally off.
On the fence
undecided/on the fence
Excuse me it’s Filipino with a capital “f”
oh i'm otf i suppose too then
Excuse me, I can't spell
With a capital "5"
you just order
so on the whole, it won't last a generation thing, any examples i could read into of what "not" to do?
or live off cereal
There are a whole lot in upper new york
In my mind I am making this sound more and more like that movie with Leonardo DiCaprio where is lives on an island.
You mean Footloose?
Nvm, I was thinking of something else
And it's like a paradise
lol I don't wanna live off the grid, just we gonna build our own grid; and have some satilite uplink kinda dealio
Let me look it up. It's a good movie. Totally worth a watch. At least once.
I once lived by the beach
On a bay
Oneida Community is the first one that comes to mind
I thought my life was like a movie
I called it
I live by the beach now.
Directed by Michael Bay
I feel like it was meant to be
It was a pretty great movie life
I like this game
I already have the high score
You’re right behind me
You at the best! I would even saw the GOAT
Gotta make sure I don’t mess up
to be honest I'm not even sure I'd want to make it into a lifestyle for "life" i'm sure you can only eat shrooms/dmt and meditate for so long before it really don't matter where you do it
Very confident that eventually would stop working.
We talking about mushrooms in here?
i am just giving you warning if you do set up something like that
well it’s just from the scope of information I've read into you only "need" some cabin in the woods kinda deal when you overcoming your ego and rooting yourself within a new world of spirituality. Once you get into the practice more and more (where talking months/years but not like 3 years i hope) eventually... hopefully you overcome enough demons that you don't require such extremes
I've done mushrooms a bunch of times
but did you do them terence mckenna style?
mushrooms very bad
no take bad bad drugs
I like mushrooms in my omelette
I don't know who that is tbh
I've just taken them quite a few times with close friends over the years
so just wondering "why" are some of you here, like on this server? like is there any goal in mind?
I was and have been listening to loads of info about how the Earth could be flat.....
I'm just here because Z invited me and I know and like some of the people here.
I find conspiracy stuff interesting
i am here cause i bitched about not being here
@Sparkles okay... but for me "that" was a week or two at most abour 3 years ago... it lead directly into "occult"/essoteric teachings/views and beyond
Yeah, peper didn't want to be left out
I don't like echo chambers
So it's different here
Also what pod said
I just still don't get how it could be flat
No matter how hard I try. It doesn't make sense.
Its fun discussing alternate opinions, I get bored with like-minded people
Fuck you tbh
well for me it never did become clear that the shape of the earth mattered, because the background/surrounding stuff all pointed towards this just being a "dream" state that our souls are bound to by default. so there is no need for anything beyond the earth in this "tutorial" land so to speak, but the fact is once you expand your soul's potential or what not, when you awake the next day you might embody a avatar within a world of greater potential such as space etc
I try to think what I would do differently depending on the shape of the earth. And I cant think of one thing I would do differently then i do now. But i think it would be interesting to know. Although i don't think I will ever know the ultimate truth.
well for most people it leads them into the thoughts regarding "god" or some overarching intelligence, the main differencing being sphere earth=science-godless ignorance and do as tho will. While flat earth means there’s a creator, and a judgment, spirituality etc
I mean, there are atheist flat earthers.
I don't know how that works, but it is a thing.
And there are a lot of theist globies
Honestly the reality I’ve come to find most true lies in these few views.
The god of this world is one of blood, war, and worship; referred to as satan/mother earth
The God is one of lifeless/timeless/egoless justice, one who does not force his will upon any and all for there good or not, but will come to those through the love of others/luck... potentially.
And lastly being that within our reality is the potential to take “dream” states to depths of internal reflection/growth beyond that of anything most people can comprehend. This journey brings greater depths to passions/emotions and thus to life itself.
Could ramble on for hours about this kinda stuff
That's one point of view.
That's a bold claim
Pretty bold, pretty big one as well.
To be really honest tho, even “those” views are not 100% even in my own mind lol there are so many ways to look at it that i can’t be 100% about anything
God is a pure goody two shows
I've heard theists say they believe in God, never heard anyone who claims to know what God is
Its why i stopped looking for egotistical justifications for actions beyond my own comprehension within systems of expression with whom i’m ignorant of
God being egoless would be so unlike the god we know
God is not god, two things very different that the christain bible draws no meaning from
God is god alright.
Well yeah god is god
I think my view on God is the same to be honest. I would not live any differently if God was God or if God was not God....
Well in the context I’m meaning it from, god is referred to as the worldly god, the one of this world. While God is the one beyond and of the background energies that make up reality, the God of light/love who is the operating system god and us work within
But is god egoless and always does justice? I really don't think so
god is an expression of ego, God is the expression of egolessness
There aren't separate Gods for everything.
God is egoistic
maybe idk, there's so many ways to look at these things that in the end all that really matters is what/who/how you act
I mean if someone creates a species then threatens to send them to hell if they don't worship him
That's kind of egoistic
those are not the words of "God" but egoistic words of fearful men
one thing many of my studies lead to was just how much of the bible is fear mongering bullshit from worldly/satanic men pushing dogma for their own power over damnation
Ah that's fair, yes
But then how do we know god is just not something created by men to manipulate and control the masses
Religion is a pretty damn powerful tool
It was at some point.
And somewhat is now.
It still is though
The act of channeling is one done through the lense of ego, and thus the interpirations/inspirations are easily tainted by fear/lusts. It’s within the yin yang like nature of truths and lies within the bible that you can pick apart what is of “God” and god
It used to be more powerful, we see the effects of it reducing
I mean, that recent Catholic church pedo thing that was exposed.
They got away with it for like 80+ years.
They still get away with it, nothing has changed.
I highly doubt that anything will change for the better, it's a rigged game and probably meant to stay as such.
i do try
Personally I believe the creative nature of humanity among the masses within their ability to “imagine”/visualize and thus synthesize externalized sensory inputs has lead many to dogmatic indoctrinations of their own creation... furthermore its come to my knowledge that within these potentials of visualization etc that “others” can take shape/form and manipulate/interact within said realms beyond the flesh, and its within these altered states of mind/manifestation that many are brought into terms with “reality” through fear/control of forces that may very well be of their own creation, or worse yet of those around them. To be honest the whole Illuminati thing just references just how deep these extra sensory perceptions are within the public domain/society.
So how do you think the earth came to be again?
As far as the origins go, it's down to philosophizing and trying to make sense of different theories, we don't know for sure
I believe it's a creation of the Demiurge
^^^ something like that is my beliefe too
but God=opperating system all runs within
*heads back to his simple accounting homework*
So basically one God that controls everything nature on Earth.
i like polythestic religions more
well God could be the background controler of stuff like that, but most likely "god" is the one who makes shit hit the fan, and God allows it but in his own way/time idk lol its a lot of circular logic to be honest
The Demiurge is basically the Creator of the material world, and it is represented with different names through different religions and/or ancient cultures, but the Demiurge is a dualistic fool in my opinion, and might as well be The Devil Himself so to speak. They snapped at the realization that, they are not capable of creating perfection, because they are imperfect themselves and I might sound harsh, but that's just my two cents.
The only difference is that, some believe it was created perfectly but then later on it was corrupted, but I believe it always meant to be imperfect and it will stay as such imo.
one "real" world tip is that we each have the ability to internaly create words of ower own desire, thus we can break the chains the demiurge has over our souls
I mean, I personally believe he is just watching as of now. Not actively doing anything regarding bringing storms or earthquakes. Nothing like that, maybe small things like blessings and whatnot.
Some of the stuff I read a long while back spoke about how 2012 was suppose to be the marker of a global shifting of energy; where this “old” energy that empowered a lot of fear/power lust etc was starting to weaken, and thus today we have fewer people who feel empowered within rape/war etc. Now weather that’s a product of humanity on a whole or of cosmic gods beyond i can’t say, just that the very thought of this concept breeds more “light” within reality so who’s to say.
I mean, just think about it for a second, watching the world get worse by each day and on top of all that, that thing can see all the suffering, and the ridiculousness that is occuring...people will just say; "Oh, but you have free-will, which also allows for evil, so...The Creator can't come back immediately and punish you for every sin that you commit, or else people would worship it out of fear, (not that they aren't doing that already) so because we have free-will, it also allows for people to commit some pretty sick things", but I definitely don't remember having any free-will choices to come here, unless that memory was erased , nor did I have an option not to be sinless, because I was already given a corrupt flesh, which I'm meant to supposedly fight it constantly, so I don't sin...just because somebody was not competent enough to create me perfect and to be sinless, you don't need to be a pre-programmed puppet robot, you could've been given a sinless spirit, but nah...you were sent back to this hellhole anyway, and then on top of all that, you have to go through guilt-trips, etc
whos says the world is getting worse?
i would say the world is getting better
Well, it depends on what you get off of really
It's not my cup of tea
how is the world getting worse?
If God is doing anything major, I'd probably say the California fires for pretty obvious reasons.
It's getting more ridiculous by the day, and you can't see it? People are being brainwashed, desensitized, and mind-controlled. Most people are debt-slaves and they work themselves off to death, and innocent people are suffering because a bunch of greedy old hags want to make profit.
Gotta say Light, you should give the emerald tablets of thoth a read
light, there were literal debt slaves
in the 1600's
thats my point. there were debt slaves
not any more
The situation was still better back then, because at least they knew that they were slaves lol
But hey, a best slave is one who thinks that its free, and it will perform more in that mindset, so no need for further whipping.
ok, so you want to go back to the 1700's then, have fun
“People” like mindless leadership, the burden of thought is to much for many so the price to pay for thoughtlessness is often a form of slavery they conform too; it’s not that something/somebody is brainwashing them, its they they seek to be comfortably numb within there sins; if they had to be perfect they’d want everything to be perfect for them, thus many don’t seek beyond what they do.
have fun working on a farm all day, barely scratching out a life and having it be all ruined in a few days
But yeah, you go do me a favor and read some Jewish-mysticism and see how religious you are, alright bud? Thanks.
light, i have read these same arguements many times before. written in the 1700's
they were written, by farmers in the south and west who didnt like how the north east was industrializing
This has nothing to do with the subject, you still haven't realized that everything you've hook line & sinked has an older origin, but just because they call it; "scientific", therefore it must be so. No need for experiments or anything, just follow your disciples and follow the good news of scientism.
so, if you dont like "wage slavery"that is the time period you need to go back to
I gotta admit, they are fucking brilliant lol
i am talking about capitalism not science
i am saying, if you dont like capitalism then you need to go back to the 1700's and work on a farm
or maybe a small craftman
I already have my own business going, but I do plan on purchasing some land and working on a farm and it is a good idea actually, I do want to grow some farm food.
nah we just need less shareholder “ran” corporations, we need companies where the employee’s are the shareholders and the communities/people they provide for are the driving force behind change.... Not bigger cuts for investors etc
Still gotta stabilize myself
i dont think you understand, you need basically everyone to work on small farms, grow all there own food, make most things themselves. You wont have heavy machines to do it. Just a simple plow and an ox or two.
Well here’s the thing, if each community/city etc backed specific farms etc rather than walmart and other middle men, then the “power” over sales these money hungry beasts have will dwindle
What's wrong with using tools that were invented by mechanical engineers? It's no harm to use some modern-day technology and I wasn't talking about unconscious objects.
because they wouldnt exist without the industrial revolution, which wouldnt happen if capitalism wasnt a thing
Well light the problem comes from the sources of said parts, if “we” collectively shift like this the systems that provide these machines/components will shut down and you’ll need some local shop etc to build your 40 thousand dollar part
you have the same problem the South did pre Civil War, no capital to invest since all the money is in land
One thing i look forward to regarding this kinda “shift” is more personalized products and relationships with creators, like imagine working with your mechanics to slowly build your dream car etc and it not costing you 20 grand
well, what light is talking about is walking backwards
he basically wants us to go to post revolution America
mmm well that’s just because he isn't knowledgeable in the "future” potential within hydroponics etc
weed is cool 😎
@Livxly Dxll if understand you correctly, i suggest reading things written by Thomas Jefferson
and his dabates with Hamilton
I personally don't live in the United States at the moment, nor do I care about the the 32d Scottish rite *Founding Fathers*, I'm good.
i only suggeted it since he agrees with what you are saying
Thanks for the recommendation, but I'm alright.
so what are your guys views of dna, I've heard a lot of crazy shit, mostly all pointing towards “us” being a product of higher intelligences (emerald tablets of thoth)
The DNA Structure looks like 2 serpents combined together to me
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i moved it up
Locking all of the channels now.
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