#experimentation (Discord ID: 571747388960800789) in The Ice Wall, page 1

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2019-04-27 18:07:34 UTC


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2019-04-27 19:40:28 UTC

I can't tell if you're serious with that one

2019-04-27 22:22:52 UTC

@UltimateLifeformGappy Of course it is serious. If you were to put a level over water, what would it show?

To take it further, can you post your own level experiment that shows water curve?

2019-04-27 22:23:36 UTC

These are simple things everyone can do.

2019-04-27 22:36:17 UTC

Why would a level show a curve? I don't get it. Wouldn't it show the water to be level regardless of the model?

2019-04-27 23:26:29 UTC

Well I have a level on my tripod I guess I could give that a go.

2019-04-27 23:31:03 UTC

You got a better experiment?

2019-04-27 23:31:15 UTC

We have testable results

2019-04-27 23:31:18 UTC

Yeah, actually, I don’t understand the “level” point.

2019-04-27 23:31:38 UTC

Water always finds and maintains level. Prove it wrong.

2019-04-27 23:31:44 UTC

I understand how Bedford level shows flat water.

2019-04-27 23:32:08 UTC

I’m just saying I don’t get how whipping out a level would prove something is flat.

2019-04-27 23:32:17 UTC

It just proves that something is level, lol.

2019-04-27 23:32:18 UTC

Cuz it shows level

2019-04-27 23:32:39 UTC

What experiment do you have to disprove it?

2019-04-27 23:32:45 UTC

My point about the level picture is that I can balance a level on top of a ball and show the same thing.

2019-04-27 23:32:52 UTC

And I’m not talking about Bedford

2019-04-27 23:32:55 UTC

We are open to see any other experiments

2019-04-27 23:33:00 UTC

Just Sheeple’s picture

2019-04-27 23:33:12 UTC

Yes. Its a great picture

2019-04-27 23:33:19 UTC

Show the simplicity

2019-04-27 23:33:24 UTC

It is a nice picture, lol

2019-04-27 23:33:37 UTC

I just don’t see it proving a point,

2019-04-27 23:33:44 UTC

If you can disprove it then okay

2019-04-27 23:34:06 UTC

I have a level in my dorm

2019-04-27 23:34:18 UTC

Obviously in that section of soil, its flat

2019-04-27 23:34:21 UTC

When I get back after finals studying Monday, I can show a picture of what I mean.

2019-04-27 23:34:26 UTC

All water is flat

2019-04-27 23:34:40 UTC

So you have an angled surface?

2019-04-27 23:34:54 UTC

I’m not talking about that, Z, lmao

2019-04-27 23:35:00 UTC

I am

2019-04-27 23:35:07 UTC

Mostly flat

2019-04-27 23:35:23 UTC

Then we have a fundamental disagreement of premise and there’s no point continuing, lol

2019-04-27 23:35:31 UTC

I’m not arguing against FE,

2019-04-27 23:35:38 UTC

So water curves with a level?

2019-04-27 23:35:49 UTC

I’m just curious how that “level on ground” picture demonstrates anything

2019-04-27 23:36:07 UTC

It demonstrates that area of the ground is level

2019-04-27 23:36:11 UTC

Because I can do the same thing but put the level on a ball.

2019-04-27 23:36:16 UTC

Its not hard to understand

2019-04-27 23:36:23 UTC

I would get the same result as long as I balance the level.

2019-04-27 23:36:34 UTC

A third grader could grasp that concept

2019-04-27 23:36:48 UTC

Oh, that I realize.

2019-04-27 23:37:02 UTC

You are thinking to much into it

2019-04-27 23:37:02 UTC

But that picture doesn’t actually disprove what I am referring to.

2019-04-27 23:37:07 UTC

Not really

2019-04-27 23:37:19 UTC

It’s just one specific picture that I am curious about.

2019-04-27 23:37:23 UTC

Its proving that area is locally level

2019-04-27 23:37:50 UTC

Yes, but by that standard I can prove a ball is locally level by balancing a level on the surface of that ball.

2019-04-27 23:38:06 UTC

Which is sort of true, but also not.

2019-04-27 23:38:56 UTC

Now put water on the ball and level it out

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2019-04-27 23:40:32 UTC

Those are very different (water on a ball Vs. Level on ground).

2019-04-27 23:40:58 UTC

I think you’re interpreting my questions in a larger scale than I mean for, Oh well.

2019-04-27 23:43:59 UTC

Im saying water is level and doesn't bend around a spinning ball in a vacuum. Also, overall, the land is flat.

2019-04-27 23:44:32 UTC

Yeah, I’m not even disagreeing that almost everything is locally flat.

2019-04-27 23:44:42 UTC

If you look over large distances of land, you will find it doesnt have curvature consistent with a 24901 ball.

2019-04-27 23:44:50 UTC

My only question was regarding a single, very specific image and its goal.

2019-04-27 23:45:14 UTC

And kind of also pointing out how that one picture doesn’t really show anything.

2019-04-27 23:45:16 UTC

Yes. Sheeples pic proved that area was also flat

2019-04-27 23:47:39 UTC

I guess I’m still not getting my point across, but good talk anyways, Citizen.

2019-04-27 23:47:48 UTC

I know your point

2019-04-27 23:48:04 UTC

Maybe I’m just not understanding your answer, then.

2019-04-27 23:48:21 UTC

Regardless, not much point in continuing.

2019-04-27 23:48:28 UTC

Still not a bad discussion

2019-04-27 23:48:42 UTC

Better than the crap in <#484514023698726912>, by a mile.

2019-04-27 23:48:54 UTC

I appreciate your time, Z

2019-04-27 23:48:58 UTC

You think sheeples picture is a small area and not proof of a flat earth or disproving a globe. Which you would be correct. It does however, prove that area is locally level

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2019-04-27 23:49:22 UTC

That’s actually exactly the kind of explanation I was looking for

2019-04-27 23:49:33 UTC

*Problem solved, lmao*

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2019-04-27 23:49:45 UTC

That makes more sense, now

2019-04-27 23:50:04 UTC

Its about what we can prove thru experiment

2019-04-27 23:50:14 UTC

Not what we assume or guess

2019-04-27 23:50:26 UTC

When I get back to my dorm in a few days, I’ll grab a level and show you what I mean by a counter demonstration.

2019-04-27 23:50:36 UTC

Not much point in me trying to explain it until then

2019-04-27 23:50:41 UTC

Salt flats for instance..400 square miles..level

2019-04-27 23:50:45 UTC

This is nice, btw, Z

2019-04-27 23:50:49 UTC

Kind of like old times

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2019-04-27 23:50:58 UTC

Yeah bro

2019-04-27 23:51:18 UTC


bolivia salt flats ..4,000* sq mi

--sq mi that big, and only 3ft 3in variation, in the whole thing, ..impossible on a ball earth the size they tell us.....

@Ætos -- i know you think we're wrong bro, but ..we're not.....

2019-04-28 00:05:39 UTC

I’m actually not questioning that

2019-04-28 00:06:12 UTC

I was just curious what Sheeple’s picture was supposed to convey.

2019-04-28 00:06:32 UTC

Because Gappy is right, it’s a borderline memey image

2019-04-28 00:06:56 UTC

But after Citizen’s explanation, the point of it makes a lot more sense.

i know all that ; )

i was juss correcting Z's typo though ✔

4,000 sq mi (is correct), not 400 *

2019-04-28 00:09:08 UTC

I just wanna know what I'd expect to see with a level on the globe model vs a flat earth model

2019-04-28 00:09:22 UTC

What would be the difference

2019-04-28 00:09:22 UTC

It’s the same.

2019-04-28 00:09:34 UTC

That's what I'm thinking

2019-04-28 00:09:35 UTC

Which is kind of the point I was making

2019-04-28 00:10:05 UTC

But I was also under the wrong impression that Sheeple’s image was meant to show what you mentioned.

2019-04-28 00:10:12 UTC

Which it wasn’t

2019-04-28 00:18:01 UTC

Wait really?

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2019-04-28 00:45:21 UTC

Yeah, apparently it’s a “locally flat” joke

2019-04-28 00:45:51 UTC

Since technically almost everyone thinks the earth is locally flat.

2019-04-28 00:47:11 UTC

Ah I see

2019-04-28 17:35:03 UTC

So, uh

2019-04-28 17:35:17 UTC

What other experiments are there?

2019-05-05 17:16:05 UTC

Dr. John D PhD - 9.5 mile double laser test
Laser test was livestreamed
Dr. John D Invites you to to challenge Laser test results

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For u MAD scientist ouThere👆

2019-05-09 17:52:50 UTC

I'm more of a dimethyl ether kind of guy

2019-05-21 16:37:02 UTC

Benveniste is pretty wild lol. He claimed that homeopathic solutions could be transferred electronically through telephone lines and the internet and even got darpa and the department of defense to try and replicate the results of his experiment. Didn't work of course but god it was hilarious.

2019-05-21 17:00:46 UTC

Darpa and the department of defense tells you something, **and you believe it?!?!?!**

2019-05-21 17:05:00 UTC

A guy proposes a new concept in science that no-one can replicate ***and you believe it***?!?!?!

2019-05-21 17:05:07 UTC

It goes both ways hun

2019-06-01 17:40:00 UTC

even intentions can influence results

2019-06-01 17:41:20 UTC

never forget this experiment you can do yourself:

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2019-08-08 00:30:43 UTC

Courtesy of @Bino

2020-01-01 04:49:55 UTC
2020-02-24 08:57:06 UTC

I think it's kind of fucked, that you would use Brian's videos to reinforce only one perspective, while he himself embraced the idea of a cellular earth. "Force the Line" explains everything.

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