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2019-11-10 17:18:18 UTC

Ok vsauce

2019-11-10 17:18:31 UTC

Lol

2019-11-10 17:22:29 UTC

This is just logical

2019-11-10 17:23:07 UTC

Entropy is high when a massive object is not spherical

2019-11-10 17:23:38 UTC

Thereโ€™s a reason why our sun, moon and every other planet is spherical

2019-11-10 17:35:51 UTC

@Say i know that you do not know that.

2019-11-10 17:37:37 UTC

What donโ€™t i know @mrbizzy

2019-11-10 17:39:10 UTC

if earth is spherical and there are other planets and they are too

2019-11-10 17:52:41 UTC

Well i do know

2019-11-10 17:52:48 UTC

We can verify these things

2019-11-10 17:53:03 UTC

Go get a telescope if you want

2019-11-10 18:16:04 UTC

hmm. does the FE model have an explanation for gravity acceleration? I'm relatively new to FE and I haven't really took that into account.

2019-11-10 18:24:38 UTC

Iโ€™ve gotten no good explanation for it.

2019-11-10 18:54:17 UTC

@Say can we be straight?! you (me too) interpret things

2019-11-10 18:54:47 UTC

you see something, with or without a telescope, and your brain/mind interprets what it is that you see

2019-11-10 18:55:42 UTC

And because you have no other/better explanation for stuff "falling" to the ground, you keep thinking that gravity exists and that somehow peoves that the earth is globe.

2019-11-10 18:56:41 UTC

How are you supposed to interpret a circular projection with shadows consistent for a sphere, as well as a front and back side consistent with a spinning sphere?

2019-11-10 18:56:49 UTC

Thatโ€™s not why i believe gravity exists

2019-11-10 18:57:05 UTC

Thereโ€™s no other way to interpret the projectile motion of planets

2019-11-10 18:57:30 UTC

The problem is that our intuition often leads us astray

2019-11-10 18:57:49 UTC

It may appear that we live on a flat surface, but i dont think thatโ€™s the case

2019-11-10 18:58:02 UTC

We need to have words to describe things so we can communicate. ok, let it be gravity, why not. But that does not mean the earth is a globe.

2019-11-10 18:59:02 UTC

If gravity exists, something as massive as the earth should be spherical. So you need some sort of explanation as to why itโ€™s not a sohere

2019-11-10 18:59:33 UTC

That is IF you follow the mainstream explanation of what gravity is.

2019-11-10 18:59:43 UTC

and so you stay in the loop

2019-11-10 18:59:57 UTC

Gravity is a well-established phenomenon

2019-11-10 19:00:20 UTC

We can show you how two masses interact with each other based on gravity

2019-11-10 19:00:26 UTC

as for today, it is no secret any more, that noone can define what gravity is.

2019-11-10 19:00:37 UTC

yes we observe that phenomenon

2019-11-10 19:00:40 UTC

I can define what gravity is

2019-11-10 19:01:01 UTC

you can define what you observe.

2019-11-10 19:01:02 UTC

Itโ€™s the force between any two objects that have mass

2019-11-10 19:01:23 UTC

ok, cool, i observe the same

2019-11-10 19:01:23 UTC

The attractive force*

2019-11-10 19:01:47 UTC

Like, we can literally model gravity with math

2019-11-10 19:02:02 UTC

We have equations to explain this, that work 100% of the time

2019-11-10 19:02:14 UTC

Gm1m2/r^2

2019-11-10 19:02:31 UTC

The equation for the force of gravity between any two objects^

2019-11-10 19:03:28 UTC

ok, it does

2019-11-10 19:04:17 UTC

Gravity is an apparent force, not an actual force

2019-11-10 19:04:24 UTC

Just gonna clarify that

2019-11-10 19:04:54 UTC

But your statement that earth has to be a sphere just because we observe attractive force which is very apparent, no doubt, is no relevant

2019-11-10 19:05:14 UTC

we do not know the real nature of our enviroment beyound our perception

2019-11-10 19:05:33 UTC

We have physics. We can model this stuff.

2019-11-10 19:05:47 UTC

Anything as massive as earth will inevitably become a sphere

2019-11-10 19:05:55 UTC

This is simple thermodynamics

2019-11-10 19:06:13 UTC

I will guess that you already have come accross the fact that most of the truth that we got learned is based on theories and assumptions that those theories might be correct

2019-11-10 19:06:53 UTC

You understand that โ€œtheoriesโ€ in science are **incredibly** reliable, right?

2019-11-10 19:07:08 UTC
2019-11-10 19:07:19 UTC

This is for evolution ^ but it gets the same point across

2019-11-10 19:08:45 UTC

@Say can you observe the moon right now?

2019-11-10 19:08:53 UTC

No

2019-11-10 19:08:54 UTC

Not right now, no.

2019-11-10 19:09:28 UTC

i can. does it make earth a globe?

2019-11-10 19:09:44 UTC

Not necessarily

2019-11-10 19:10:06 UTC

You could claim a spotlight but youโ€™d need a mechanism to explain such a phenomenon

2019-11-10 19:10:13 UTC

^

2019-11-10 19:10:40 UTC

Regardless of what flat earthers say, you would see infinitely far on a flat plane.

2019-11-10 19:10:46 UTC

In the way we understand light to function, you need an explanation as to how the light from the sun doesnโ€™t illuminate the whole earth at once

2019-11-10 19:11:01 UTC

good. and so here is an explanation. and we all know it. it is spherical, the Moon circles the globe earth and so the story goes.

2019-11-10 19:11:38 UTC

That is explanation of the phenomena.

2019-11-10 19:11:42 UTC

But not the only one.

2019-11-10 19:12:00 UTC

We literally just told you youโ€™d need another explanation for the phenomenon

2019-11-10 19:12:28 UTC

Yes we need the explanation, not that our lives depent on that. So lets find it

2019-11-10 19:12:29 UTC

Thatโ€™s as close to asking for the phenomenon as literally asking

2019-11-10 19:12:45 UTC

You donโ€™t have a possible explanation? What?

2019-11-10 19:13:08 UTC

i want to be honest to myself and respect others too.

2019-11-10 19:13:21 UTC

so yes, i have seen several explanations.

2019-11-10 19:13:38 UTC

But all have some missing bits.

2019-11-10 19:13:47 UTC

Provide them m8

2019-11-10 19:14:03 UTC

You canโ€™t just say โ€œthere are explanationsโ€, you need to provide them

2019-11-10 19:14:05 UTC

you mean the explanations?

2019-11-10 19:14:25 UTC

How does our explanation โ€œlack bitsโ€

2019-11-10 19:14:56 UTC

to satisfy your curiosity, regarding the moon, i have seen the mainstream one - that it is an object circling the earth.

2019-11-10 19:15:18 UTC

then there is plasma version, spotlight version, firmament version

2019-11-10 19:15:33 UTC

some are more crazy than others

2019-11-10 19:15:48 UTC

I still want an answer as to how things accelerate downwards on a flat earth

2019-11-10 19:16:25 UTC

Plasma is not an explanation, it doesnโ€™t even address the conundrum of flat earth.
Spotlight has literally no mechanism for how light behaves that way.
Firmament... same issue

2019-11-10 19:16:52 UTC

You got stuck in that flat earth mate

2019-11-10 19:16:53 UTC

Iโ€™ve seen someone say itโ€™s the water sound light thing which is a cool phenomenon

2019-11-10 19:17:19 UTC

But why itโ€™s so bright and large has never been addressed.

2019-11-10 19:18:07 UTC

we the humans need to have the answers. but we do not. Theories have changed over the time because the old one got challenged.

2019-11-10 19:18:21 UTC

so now is the process.

2019-11-10 19:18:56 UTC

This is just a nirvahna fallacy

2019-11-10 19:19:18 UTC

and those who challenge the mainstream views of how is the enviroment around us functioning realize that there is not much solid proof to those theories.

2019-11-10 19:19:45 UTC

our discussion will not change that

2019-11-10 19:19:46 UTC

Alright, thereโ€™s no point in having a convo if youโ€™re not willing to engage in a discussion

2019-11-10 19:20:22 UTC

will you not agree that your opinion is closed?

2019-11-10 19:20:31 UTC

2019-11-10 19:20:54 UTC

You know how the things here function?

2019-11-10 19:21:09 UTC

but i do not know. so i open my mind and try to find out

2019-11-10 19:21:22 UTC

Not because i want to convince anyone.

2019-11-10 19:24:33 UTC

any of you wanna make me bevive in flat earth

2019-11-10 19:24:36 UTC

On a FlEarth, for two places (Senegal and New Zealand), the sun appears to rise and set in the north

2019-11-10 19:27:16 UTC

what would it change @OLD MELBY ?

2019-11-10 19:27:37 UTC

nothin reall

2019-11-10 19:29:02 UTC

then why put effort if it wont change a thing.

2019-11-10 19:29:02 UTC

No

2019-11-10 19:29:17 UTC

I wanted an explanation for acceleration on earth

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