What is it normally?

"Gravity is the reason things fall!"

"No"

<:lmao:626260628327366666>

They often get uncivil, too, which is unfortunate.

Honestly tho

Or

"gravity-"
"Shut up idiot"

lmao

"ur reason?-"
"Shut up idiot"

"ur a Satanist"

"you are brainwashed"

"it's allllllll lies"

"they're hiding the truth bc...just bc"

You really cant argue something if you dont know what youre talking about lmao so i see what you mean

Yeaaaah it's not like that

Actually it is😂

Bc I've been called a Satanist many times in one argument

A lot of globe earthers that come here aren't educated enough in their own model to make an argument

It's sad

It's actually the exact opposite

It isn't.

Other tests include the Pound-Rebka experiment which tested gravitational redshift.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pound–Rebka_experiment

You may not believe it but people believe too many simplified aspects

Welll, I've been called a Satanist, everything's a lie, and that I'm brainwashed

When I was giving out my points

All im saying is if i believe in somethings it because it think its a better alternative then the other side of it

Now I must go back to school and get *brainwashed*

Not sure who was saying that but you know that happens from time to time

School sucks though

calling GE brainwashed doesnt make FE points any more valid

It simplifies too many things

When I got older and started to look into a lot of things I was taught I just learned more about them

🖕 school

You have to simplify things in school, otherwise concepts can’t be grasped.

That's the problem though

You cant start talking about nuclear fusion to a second grader that doesn’t even know the sun is a star

Teach it in high school

People barely understand gravity enough as it is

Cause no one wants to actually learn about it

Now THATS what sucks about school

Ouch

You’re always given the option to pursue knowledge further, but school doesn’t incentivize it as much as it should.

That's something we gotta fix

They also teach too many things as fact even though it's just assumptions

What (in the curriculum) is taught as fact, but it just an assumption?

The big bang

Like, not what teachers personally say Bc they’ll imprint their beliefs and views into everything

@floridaswamptrash do you have any other examples. they teach big bang more so in college

Why wasnt i learn about how to program plcs when in gradeschool

Who wants to debate about the six astronauts that didn’t actually die?

Couldve used it now

The Big Bang is taught as a theory, aka an explanation for why something is, and then it was tested. It is very valuable, especially in higher level physics.

We then use the Big Bang as an axiom for further discussion and research

Then why do people always argue that it is fact that it happened? I rarely see people say that it's just a theory honestly

We do have entire alternate hypotheses and theories

They always portray it as if it actually happened

At the end of the day though were all people and it shouldnt matter how we got here as much as it should who we are today

Because all observations and calculations about it fit the theory

Saying “just a theory” is misleading, because a theory has sufficient evidence backing it to be accepted as fact.

Say it again

What caused the big bang?

What caused God

The rapid expansion of atoms

Aba is a mainstream book right here lol

I think in the end we’ll never know and we can only guess as to why were here today

What

The big bang assumes too much to be accurate

So does god

And sim

I'm not talking about God

We dont know what caused it thats why people are researching string theory

Or sim whatever that is

We can only guess right now

String theory isn't any better

We'll always be guessing

Until we get the research to disprove or prove big bang then its forever a theory

It's like evolution in a way

...

The big bang can't ever be proven because it isn't a solid explanation

And what about the cosmic micro background radiaton which fits the big bang? Lemme guess "it's fake"

God isnt solid either, all the big bang is is a guess on how we got here that cant be disproven

Ffs i could say weve just always existed and the universe has always been there and you cant say thats wrong cause whats your proof it hasnt

There are some explanations for why the Big Bang happened, but what caused it is surprisingly irrelevant to whether or not it happened

big bang sounds like something dirty

Also we’ve directly observed speciation btw

Hot

No u

Also whatd he mean by evolution is like the bug bang or what ever?

wot

“It's like evolution in a way”

He meant evo cant be proven i think

Evolution is just the adaptation a species has to better suit its environment

@floridaswamptrash your theories are less provable then ours. why does that matter so much ?

@Aba🥀 Why do you keep bringing up God?

I never even mentioned it

because big bang

Because you cant disprove the god theory and you can’t disprove the big bang one

I was using it as an example as to how pointless this was

Hello drewski

The Big Bang actually has really great directly observable evidence supporting it.

Hey Ronin

@Drewski4343 say it louder for those in the back

Arent like galaxies slowly moving away from the center of the universe

lol

The Cosmic Microwave Background

or CMB

Not proof, but fantastic supporting evidence.

when you deny the existence of space, its easy to throw galaxies and CMB out the window

Oof

I suppose so 😦

That hit hard

And hurt

CMB is one of the best supporting evidences rly but yeah

thats the catch, FE's dont have to acknowledge what they dont believe

"Do your own research"

Honestly its sad when people completely through someone else’s arguments out the window because in their head what you said doesnt even exist

what does that even mean lol @Ronin

@Aba🥀 indeed

Something that FE say alot

i know, but like

what does it *really* mean

Why do they say do your own research but what you look up flat earth theory the first thing that pops up says “about the flat earth myth”

Like wouldnt that just make us not believe their cause

"do non-mainstream,non-brainwashed, independent source research" @Ronin

Wouldn’t they rather teach us the right way then google brainwashing us

its the same concept with news sources

news is fake unless it supports you

Well debatable

Fake news does exist

i know

Why do people always say that if you can't disprove or prove God you can't disprove or prove the big bang theory? The big bang theory is a concept that claims certain things existed (i.g the universe, matter, atoms, etc) to cause the expansion that took billions and billions of years to eventually make us

For instance the vaping kills news that was fabricated

God is different but I won't get into it

Its really not

@Aba🥀 big tobacco companies are behind that

Ik

Its really messed up

fake news is always used in arguments when its convenient was my point

Yeah i can see that

I think people throw around terms too much that change the name of what it actually means

and yeah, they were paying off scientist many years ago to lie about tobacco health. they were exposed and no one cared enough to shut them down. now they're back at it again

The big bang is either the origin of everything or the continuation of the unvierse

Mainstream science needs to make up their mind

Its both

Its the start of this universe until it eventually collapses and starts over again

a cycle

Think of the universe as an ecosystem

It couldn't be that

plants die, planets die, stars die, the universe will too

?

Yikes

And then it will restart

It assumes too much

another one, or two, or 60, will be born

Not really, its more of we dont fully understand then assuming

^^^^

It is assuming though

No its a theory

Uh huh

Anyways

Assuming is me assuming you have a brain

whats wrong with assuming. believing in god requires many assumptions

If you believe in the big bang you could say that the universe was reset before maybe even millions of times before

thats what we mean by cycle

Yes cause its continuous

What started the cycle?

Atoms? Where did they come from?

Nothing

Nothing?

Its always been a cycle

<:cool3:625748951458512916> We got a winner here

Mater cant me destroyed or made

just like "god" has always been, its the same @floridaswamptrash

You aren't even talking about the big bang at this point

What

Then again

We are

please dont get picky with semantics

But not the common version most people know of

wdym

Wtf is going on

There are different versions of it like it being a cycle or that it is the origin of the universe as a whole or the expansion of an already existing smaller universe etc etc

Im so lost

Thats what string theory is for kinda, because we dont know yet

he's trying to summarize it @Aba🥀

It sounds like hes just saying it doesn’t exist tho

he's saying its just another option

like

another possiblity

I'm basically saying that the big bang opens up a lot of boxes of what could have happened

So does god

^

Or the sim theory

^

The concepts are different

pick your poison

Like any origin of us is gonna open possibilities and the question of what caused that then

I pick none of them

The big bang theory is 💩

Sim theory is gay

And God is god

lol that's pure opinion

The only possible theory is that the universe is continuous, it existed forever and will always exist

i think thats pretty likely

That's probably the more likely one for the mainstream model

well yeah, FE assume to much about GE

we arent all the same

Well if you say anything made it then you cant say like “so and so made it” because then who made them

its the chicken and egg problem

That's a whole different ball game

The chicken came before the egg by the way @Atlas the Friendly Robot

Its a metaphor

Also the reason I brought evolution up earlier is because I think it's also false for a good reason

Why?

Evolution is the adaptation of animals or plants to their environments

Darwins finches are a perfect example

You ever heard of the Cambrian explosion?

No

yes

what about it

Yes

I know where this is going.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambrian_explosion @Aba🥀

i think i do too lol

Have heard this argument way to many times.

I brought this up before to someone who got banned and it was a good conversation

https://youtu.be/NArlXzSFt2Y @floridaswamptrash

You've sent that before

I don't care about that video

yea i know

you guys ignore blatant evidence

Also not all fossils are able to be recorded

I don't ignore it

I've already looked at that

its hard to fossilize soft-bodied animals. like most of the water life that existed before the explosion

^

It's gotta be to keep the theory together

huh

That type of adaption like in that video isn't something that I'm gonna argue against because it is observable over the last 50 or so years

well

It's like elephants who stopped growing horns in certain parts of Africa due to people hunting them for it

yea

this is all evidence lol

It happens and we can observe that for sure

What is the argument even more

what are we even talking about then

Yea

: (

I'm not going to say that evolution theory is correct because I don't think we've been around for billions upon billions of years