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satanic
that's cool af
I'm going to go grab some food, pay some bills
bye
ok
don't go doing any flat earth resesarch without me
we've done it
here's the result: not flat
why research something that's been shown to be inconsistent multiple times
that's called being insane
doing the same thing over and over again expecting a change
Like being a globie
Good example
not tho
lol
gottem
oof
Difference is that it's coming out exactly as I expect
You know we are not a spinning space ball
Yet continue to propagandize it
I don't tho
I think what most flat earthers do sounds more like propoganda than what I do
<:smart:484956754489376781>
What do you think of this problem i found.
Rotating Atmosphere Paradox:
From Galileo Was Wrong: If we are on a rotating Earth with air subject only to gravity (i.e., the atmosphere is not coupled or bound by any forces to turn with the Earth), then we would experience tremendous wind problems, in which the spinning Earth encounters the full weight of the atmosphere. (NB: The atmosphere weighs more than 4 million billion tons.)
If we are on an Earth that is rotating, the atmosphere would obviously have to move with it. So, there needs to be some mechanism that allows this. However, there is so far no explained mechanism for this effect that is required on a rotating earth. There is no explanation for how friction would enable an atmosphere rotating in sync with Earth throughout the atmospheric altitudes.
The strength of friction decreases as the altitude increases, with it being inversely proportional to altitude. Friction may work right at the surface, with the strongest gravitational pull, but it decreases as the altitude increases, and so doesn't keep the entire atmosphere in sync with Earth's rotation.
Friction's effects on air motion decrease as the altitude increases -- to a point (usually 1-2 km) where it has no effect at all.
-- http://ww2010.atmos.uiuc.edu/(Gh)/guides/mtr/fw/bndy.rxml
Air is not very viscous ("sticky"), so "real" friction (the one that comes from molecular motion) is only important in a very thin layer of atmosphere next to the surface. However, air is very turbulent. This turbulence generates small-scale up and down motion, which mixes slow air from the friction layer with fast air from above, thereby spreading the effect of molecular friction over a layer a few hundred meters thick (turbulence is the reason for wind gusts). This interaction with the surface slows down atmospheric motion.
-- http://eesc.columbia.edu/courses/ees/climate/lectures/atm_dyn.html
It is important to note that an atmosphere added to a rotating Earth would slow down the rotation and therefore decrease angular momentum overtime. This would be because of the frictional force that is from the interaction of the Earth's surface and atmosphere.
But, it hasn't been explained how friction would work even for the lower parts of Earth's atmosphere, to keep it rotating with Earth. In order for the atmosphere to rotate along with Earth, there would need to be some lateral force proportional to altitude that supports the upper atmosphere. But of course, that couldn't be since it would make it harder to travel against the Earth's rotation, since the force would be towards rotation.
This problem doesn't exist for a stationary geocentric Earth, and if Earth were rotating, this dilemma would exist for it. This represents a paradox for the contemporary model of our Earth.
A great deal of research has been carried out concerning the influence of the Earth's movement. The results were always negative (...) We do not have any means of discovering whether or not we are carried along in a uniform motion of translation...
also you have no business telling me what I believe
- Henri Poincarรฉ , From Poincarรฉโs lecture titled: โLโรฉtat actuel et lโavenir de la physique mathematique,โ St.Louis, Sept 24, 1904, Scientific Monthly, April, 1956.
The failure of the many attempts to measure terrestrially any effects of the earth's motion on physical phenomena allows us to...[Pauli gives up looking for experimental evidence and moves on to the abstract 'escape hatch' theories of Einstein]
- Wolfgang Pauli, The Theory of Relativity, 1958, p. 4.
No physical experiment ever proved that the Earth actually is in motion.
- Lincoln Barnett, The Universe and Dr. Einstein, 2nd rev. edition, 1957, p. 73.
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well what a dump
Yes the atmosphere weighs 4 million billion tons but it's spread over the entire earth
If you had a thinking cap i wouldnt be so critical
seems you lack one tho
What I said demonstrates this
You said a bunch of garbage tho
You weighed the atmosphere. Brilliant
well the people here will judge tgat
What scale did you use
you weighed it though, citizen...
Your post
Tru
Was it while the atmosphere was heavier during storm season?
they only pointed out that it is spread out
@Citizen Z have you read that? In no way is Pauli saying we can't measure the Earth's rotation
Or while the atmosphere was calm?
What he is talking about is how the velocity of the Earth, does not affect the propagation of light.
Citizen you gave him the weight
yes
seems this is even more demonstration
Anyway I have to go to bed
Did you count the dust and pollen mixed in or did you remove that
????
@Citizen Z your blind to the chat apparently
Are you sure?
As said before I used your claim
you gave him the weight, you know that right? ๐
What counts as blind?
you provided the weight
We said so many times
citizen is probably being bitchy
and your still pushing that I pulled it out of my ass
I didn't give anyone the weight
....
look at your post
Its not my post
do you even read what you post
I said I found that
um
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juswow.
So u agree someone weighs the atmosphere?
That's not a problem either way
you provided the argument
Its not my argument
I said its a problem i found
What do u think
yes and I'm saying how even if true is not a problem
the weight is spread over the entire earth
Divide the weight by the area and you get pressure
So the air is velcrowed to earth?
Aren't we talking about a different aspect?
Are we?
don't move to a different point after I actually adress yours
respond to the point after I addressed your point
Hmm?
What point? The atmosphere weighs a lot?
That one
either concede it's a bad point or we can continue
I dont know what point youre tryin to make
I'm tired and didn't pay attention to the actual paragraph
Brb
You believe in globes with life inside infinite vacuum chambers
Ok the friction is a thing
but over billions of years
I think that will do the trick
Especially when the atmosphere appeared after the earth formed
So the atmosphere formed as it was already rotating
so the atmosphere formed already in sync
The Book of Globe 8:17 If any man shall question the rotation of The Ball, thou shalt mock and ridicule him.
Stay on topic plz
Go cool a rock or somthing?
Ok
I was just watching
isnt that a bit patronising
Patronizing?
Moi?
Never!
citizen
Yes?
Also I don't understand saying "friction to keep it rotating in sync"
Ever heard of conservation of momentum?
Perhaps
So the friction in the air should provide plenty of free electricity
No
Maybe Tesla was onto something
the friction caused by airflow(powered by the sun) can be used to make electricity
thus wind energy
Your not responding Wich I'm ok with but keep in mind I will be upset if you give this argument again
Your probably not responding to avoid being told you where corrected in the past
acting like you didn't see it
This is a likely possibility
I'm only stating it because it's a possibility
If it's false then you have nothing to worry about
altho maybe
๐ "The Book Of Globe"
I will take it as you actually read my response
>So the friction in the air should provide plenty of free electricity
Wind power?
I will in fact respond that I corrected you
Idk why I'm still on this...
@BurritoPlanet ya I don't understand that
Friction is not a source of energy
You gotta stay around for the other conspiracies
Collect em all
it's a process to convert relative kinetic energy to thermal energy
one thing some say is that a force requires work
I don't understand that
You can have a force last forever without using any power
a force only generates energy or power when it moves something
as energy is equal to mass times velocity squared, aka force times length
and power is equal to energy per time
force is not equal to power
Power is equal to force times length per time
force times velocity in other words
isn't it half mass * velocity squared
That's kinetic energy
didnt you just say mass * velocity squared
And I'm talking dimentionwise
ah
the half is a product of calculus
i wish people knew basic history
shmeh
the truth is that all that history is made up
fake history like fake news
I believe you have to eat to survive
and kids are born from real women
pretty sure, but I could be wrong just like I could be wrong about flat earth
you trying to convince me that kids aren't born from women
pretty sure guys cannot give birth, they don't have the plumbing
pretty sure i saw a fake guy give birth
yup
I mean its possible a FTM could give birth as a male because its an actual female who is pretending to be a male
gender benders
you had a point?
I never said that
stop spewing fake conspiracies
we don't have room for fake conspiracies, we have real ones to cover
is that even a word?
I think your making up words
I follow a group called critical role
hypercritical
with ity on the end
critical thinking is useful
isnt critical role a DnD youtuve channel
close enough for government work
being overly cynical isn't healthy if you can't trust yourself
the value of testing
you start with basic tests
bang your hand against a wall, did you hear a sound
if so then your hearing is valid
nope
padded walls
you actually did tap on the wall
chances are good if you actually can figure stuff out you aren't in a padded cell
sorry i have a quilt on the wall?
well, I'm not going to play solipism games with you
my point is testing validates the real world
and thru it you can determine was is real and what is fake, and can trust yourself and other things thru testing
the point is, how do you know the test are returning the valid result
senses tell you so, like hearing
well, it sounds like your guessing way beyond your limited degree in physics
now your trying to branch into psychology
no, I think your grasping at straws
of course, I'd be a fool to leave my defenses down
ITS A TRAP
you know how unhealthy it is to get upset because someone called you a name?
and get upset, need safe spaces?
I mean we got kids who can't deal in the real world, its really pathetic
they need to toughen up, they are college kids that are acting like they are in kindergarden needing coloring books and petting dogs
you insulting me is a waste of time, I'm not affected by being called a retard
I know how smart I actually am
only seen 35+ men getting hurt here
๐
do you actually have a degree in physics or is that made up like your thinking ability?
in physics
^o,o^
so why when you see a cloud coming thru the clouds at different angles that doesn't indicate we have a close local sun?
your a physic's PhD guy.
sun is close and local
you have another explanation?
you know i dont think that chart is acurate, i pretty sure i know a lot more then the average person on history yet i sometimes feal i know nothing about it
i am very well aware of that
that graph means nothing to me
your avoiding my question about the sun
now we know where kev lies
lol
I talked about the graph
your avoiding the question because you know where it leads
your going to end up being a flat earther
I'm now a SWJ
SJW
I'm not a SJW
type, means nothing
screen all you want
no way
Male
flatty
well, my sex is male
my gender is an attack helicopter
dead meme
i mean, Tiger Tanks are better anyway
I know one person thought the whole thing was rediculous, so he wanted ot be known as lord
Lord brian, how do you feel about that
concave erf
*we live inside the earth*
yea, i don't follow that hollow earth conspiracy
but the truth is we don't know what is down below 8 miles
i thought it was a yellow submarine
we can't go down that far, its possible they could have enough tech to survive down there past the heat
because he has no idea
I could make some stuff up on theorhetical ways to get past the heat, like moving super fast
if you don't know what is down there, bad idea to move fast though
you could go really fast right into lava
there are ways to get rid of excess heat
moving fast is one way
water isn't a good way if its not contained, like too much eat, water would just burn away
......
nuclear power plants use water for cooling, but that wouldn't work
please go on
you still are avoiding the question
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