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No
No?
Electromagnetism is not tesla's theory
Sorry. No. Tesla used that theory for his many inventions.
I know
But tesla disnt come up with it
Or most of the break throughs in it
Yes, i am aware of a magnetic field
Even the electron itself is just a theory, one can't really prove the existence of an electron in a final, ultimate way. You can infer an electron's presence, though, and use that inference to get predictable results out of everything from conductive materials, to chemistry, to color applications.
The Selenilion eclipse is where the moon and sun are on opposite horizons from each other. Very rare.
9.8mps squared is the effect
not the cause
*9.81
However the shadow that eclipses the moon starts from the top and migrates downward. Please explain how that is even possible.
i would like to see the data shows the acceleration was tested on every square foot at sea level. i remember reading articles saying there is places on earth where the acceleration did not match the standard model and scienctist were baffled by it for decades and only recently have the come up with guesses (thats right guess work) on how that could be.
Atmospheric refraction? Thatโs a Yuuuge stretch and we both know it.
Could say he is deflecting ๐
anyways, gravity is a theory. you can measure it. great. i can measure the speed of a car but if i dont look under the hood i dont know whats running it
<@484198784901840897> Are you suggesting in this instance, the moon is a mirage? ๐
i know a clock tells us time. if i never looked inside one would i know how it worked?
He is deflecting
@DrPeper i got the joke
does light bend up then back down to your eyes thousands and thousands of feet?
@DrPeper is so punny. ๐
cuz thats what you propse with no working model
Yup
That twas the idea
of course it is'
so gravity does it?
Lol
you dont see ships floating in the air
Jadon. Ships are not floating on the horizon. ๐
they are still level from you, at eye level
Itโs the Flying Dutchman!!! ๐
you see a mirror effect
a fata morgana
I am the flying dutchman
With a bag o weed
On the horizon
@skaffa yippa As you wish
๐
@The Gwench sounds spooky
No spoopy here please
Is the discussion here usually about flat earth?
@skaffa yippa What do you think of your name now? ๐
Eeeek
@HyperBaroque no. We like to talk Conspiracies
A lot
Like dirty filthy commies
However, because flat earth is one of our conspiracies, we attract many bully-like trolls...globules that is. ๐
And hobgoblins
Lol
this is certainly reflection You can see a horizon line behind the boat https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/379214321907007488/533407941412388871/ship-fatamorgana-600x319.png
I mean, I do consider flat earth a validly discoursible conspiracy. I just don't consider it good debate because I can't be convinced the earth is flat, and I've already been in to the hilt with all the flat earther tactics, so for me it's only really worthwhile when the flat earther crowd comes up with a new one.
A new tactic. ๐ค
It is generally accepted that mirage is formed when temperature of the ground surface, in a flat area like desert, is higher than the temperatures of the over ground air layers. In this case, light emerging from a distant object makes total internal reflection in the air layers and forms the image of the object that is called mirage. Our investigation on mirage formation in desert indicates that there is no meaningful relation between mirage formation and temperature change over the ground. In addition, we show that, the interference of the lights reflected from different air layers destroys the coherency of the image forming light. This happens because the temperature change occurs in an interval larger than a wavelength. In the second part of the report we demonstrate theoretically and experimentally that flat rough surfaces behave like mirrors at very large incident angles. We show that there is a threshold incident angle for observation of image in a rough surface that depends on the surface roughness and light wavelength. The shortest distance between observer and the image is determined by the threshold incident angle. Mirage is such an image. Image formation is studied in rough sheet glass surfaces that prepared by grinding with powders of different sizes.
I do like some of the side discussions that come up. Especially about questioning the completeness of theories about electromagnetism (especially concerning Earth's magnetosphere), gravity, and light physics.
Jadon. You must first understand why flat earthers have come to their belief...then you will be able to debate better. ๐
If we don't question the theory of gravity, for instance, we'll never dismantle it and improve on it towards unifying it with other theories.
in short its just reflection, thats what a mirage is
Actually, <@484198784901840897> Citizen has been giving you valuable info that you choose to ignore.
there is no evidence i have seen with measurements of boats being shown to go over any curve. its always just assumed a curve because the boat starts disappearing or miraging
its not the same whatsoever
<@484198784901840897> Can I assume you learned about refraction with lenses?
<@484198784901840897> what happens to light when it passes through a convex lens?
Really focusing on thr issue now
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/379214321907007488/533410207565479944/unknown.png
If we turn the image 90 degrees , AT a further distance that would look like one windows and the horizon would appear to be where the wall is
Disregard the light part of the graphic and just think about the wave form. Imagine the ground or sea is like that. With a Side view , Say you are all the way on the right looking toward the left at the same height as the wave peaks. You would see nothing not light that goes "inside" the waves. To the observer it would appear as a smooth surface
What happens to light with a convex lens?
I mainly came here to see if anybody has listened to the recent Conspiracy Unlimited podcast about Paul Is Dead.
Thatโs correct Jadon.
@HyperBaroque no you can post?
If the earth is convex...in relation to parallel light rays coming from the sun...why do the rays not converge?
Gas content of the atmosphere, Gwench.
When passing through our atmosphere.
Basically, our atmosphere isn't glass?
The atmosphere must also be convex. That would be a logical conclusion...yes?
My point is this. When I present valid questions...your answer is always atmospheric refraction. BS. You gotta do better than that.
What happens when the sun hits our atmosphere , according to some recent theories, is more like the energizing of a plasma field than the passing of light through a perfect glass medium.
could be i dont think anyone knows for sure
I agree that Earth atmospheric science is still too sketchy.
Some neat theories, such as one that says the magnetic fields of Earth and Sun are interlinked in a somewhat lifelike manner, with them "breathing" energy back and forth, get shoved aside and labeled "fringe". And long held veliefs such as that the ozone hole has repaired itself are being overthrown. So I consider a lot of atmospheric science to be in disarray.
<@484198784901840897> moving lines of flux, basically.
@HyperBaroque yes they are neat
Flux is just the observable lines of electromagnetic force.
Again, this is debatable down to the point where we can question electromagnetism itself, of course.
I just think that a theory positing a more dynamic and interactive relationship between the Earth's and Sun's magnetospheres seems worthwhile scientifically (whether or not new agers latch on because it sounds cool,) and it's sort of a shame is gets treated as bunk and not looked at at all by people who want everything to be simplified and deadened.
Skepticism is great and all but it can become a cult like entity.
@HyperBaroque Your comment is interesting. ๐ค
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