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2018-10-06 13:57:35 UTC

I don't think you understand the complexity of DNA

2018-10-06 13:57:44 UTC

I do

2018-10-06 13:57:46 UTC

You don't

2018-10-06 13:57:51 UTC

I'm a programmer

2018-10-06 13:57:58 UTC

and?

2018-10-06 13:57:58 UTC

lets presume DNA is a program

2018-10-06 13:58:05 UTC

complex program to make stuff

2018-10-06 13:58:07 UTC

I'm a biologist

2018-10-06 13:58:50 UTC

I'm not sure what you think was mapped, but we don't understand how a person is made from DNA from the little mapping we did

2018-10-06 13:59:06 UTC

We mailed the whole thing

2018-10-06 13:59:14 UTC

sure we can say how one gene in the DNA sequence can be the cause of one thing, but we don't understand how the whole thing works together

2018-10-06 13:59:15 UTC

Who doesnโ€™t understand that? All of humanity, or just you?

2018-10-06 13:59:17 UTC

Mapped

2018-10-06 13:59:23 UTC

BS

2018-10-06 13:59:40 UTC

its like mapping the world when you think its a globe

2018-10-06 13:59:45 UTC

its mapped incorrectly

2018-10-06 13:59:51 UTC

That's what they did in the 90s and 2000s

2018-10-06 13:59:59 UTC

its mapped incorrectly

2018-10-06 14:00:03 UTC

oh god here comes the globe

2018-10-06 14:00:23 UTC

It's a simple thing of G-C A-T it's not that hard to sequence

2018-10-06 14:00:31 UTC

Iโ€™d also like to remind everybody that we knew how genes worked long before we discovered the DNA molecule.

2018-10-06 14:00:54 UTC

(We meaning humanity in this case)

2018-10-06 14:00:56 UTC

@The18thDoctor yeah u right but the bean monk didn't get it all

2018-10-06 14:01:03 UTC

we have been manipulated genes in a rudimentary way to create various types of dogs

2018-10-06 14:01:17 UTC

Yeah I wasnโ€™t just referring to Mendel.

2018-10-06 14:01:19 UTC

we have a very basic understanding of it

2018-10-06 14:01:45 UTC

Being able to change genes and understanding how genes work are very, very different things.

2018-10-06 14:01:54 UTC

and rudimentary is where we are, we are in the 21st century with that limitation on tech, in 1 K years, we will be much much more advanced and have a better understanding of it

2018-10-06 14:01:56 UTC

We have manipulated genes to grow ears on mice, we have a complex understanding of it

2018-10-06 14:02:10 UTC

presuming we don't have scientists who create bogus theories that everyone buys

2018-10-06 14:02:40 UTC

I'm saying we have a rudimentary understanding of it

2018-10-06 14:02:57 UTC

we don't understand the human brain, we don't understand how to fix DNA defects

2018-10-06 14:02:57 UTC

Just because you don't know how it works doesn't make it impossible to learn, we know so much but you aren't looking it up

2018-10-06 14:03:07 UTC

we understand less than we understand

2018-10-06 14:03:44 UTC

lets presume we know about 2% of how DNA works, your trying to pass that off as a great knowledge

2018-10-06 14:03:48 UTC

DNA defects are more often than not self correcting in mitosis, however if you are talking about meiosis we can correct there

2018-10-06 14:03:54 UTC

2% is not alot

2018-10-06 14:04:06 UTC

less than a slice of a pizza

2018-10-06 14:04:07 UTC

How do you know itโ€™s that small?

2018-10-06 14:04:33 UTC

Kevin you aren't reading what I'm saying, you are presuming that you are already correct and saying nonsense

2018-10-06 14:04:49 UTC

And also knowledge is not a thing you can easily slice up like that. You canโ€™t know how much you donโ€™t know without knowing what you donโ€™t know.

2018-10-06 14:05:21 UTC

Big Lover, your talking about details of DNA and not paying attention to the bigger picture

2018-10-06 14:05:38 UTC

your thinking the trees are the entire forest, when they are just a few trees,

2018-10-06 14:05:57 UTC

You are saying we know nothing about DNA while I explain the details of how much we actually know

2018-10-06 14:06:07 UTC

I'm not saying we know nothing

2018-10-06 14:06:28 UTC

I'm saying we know very little compared to what we will know given enough time and not being misdirected

2018-10-06 14:07:14 UTC

You are ignoting the current understanding in your argument however

2018-10-06 14:07:14 UTC

in comparison to what we will know in 1,000 years from now, or even 10,000 years from now

2018-10-06 14:07:39 UTC

We will know more about everting on the future we can't dismiss all knowledge right now

2018-10-06 14:07:43 UTC

your ignoring that our knowledge on the subject will grow, and that we are in the infancy of our knowledge of it

2018-10-06 14:08:24 UTC

I'm not dismissing that we know some stuff about it, but we don't know everything or even 5%

2018-10-06 14:08:51 UTC

if we knew everything, we could do what GOD does, and takes someone's genes and make a person from scratch

2018-10-06 14:09:08 UTC

no womb, nothing

2018-10-06 14:10:26 UTC

Kevin what you are saying is that we don't know enough so anything is possible even incest with the tree thing.

I'm saying, this is what we know currently our current extent and the actual future of the subject.

I'm working with speculation based on facts. You are trying to create a fanfiction of biology where you can justify the issue of inbreeding between two people and their children.

2018-10-06 14:11:30 UTC

no, incest is wrong because it creates negative outcomes in children with genetic defects

2018-10-06 14:11:54 UTC

I'm saying there was a reason why this didn't occur in the earlier generations and now it does occur

2018-10-06 14:11:55 UTC

What about gay incest

2018-10-06 14:12:08 UTC

Between consensual adults

2018-10-06 14:12:17 UTC

Or incest with contraception

2018-10-06 14:12:33 UTC

if children can't be created, I'm sure sex is wrong in the eyes of GOD. the whole point of sex is to create offspring.

2018-10-06 14:12:55 UTC

Ok so is it wrong to have sex with an infertile wife?

2018-10-06 14:12:55 UTC

The reason it didn't occur is because the Bible isn't literal, and to apply our current day understaning to the historic text creates glaring flaws

2018-10-06 14:13:57 UTC

I don't think its wrong to have two people love each other and find solace in each other's arms, but there is a slippery slope when you talk about moral decay that collapses societites

2018-10-06 14:14:10 UTC

Sex is kinda overrated tbh. Same with humanity.

2018-10-06 14:14:28 UTC

I think humanity is extremely important

2018-10-06 14:14:36 UTC

otherwise GOD wouldn't of created us

2018-10-06 14:14:42 UTC

The universe wouldn't even notice if we vanished in an instant.

2018-10-06 14:14:59 UTC

What is moral decay?
How do we know God created us?

2018-10-06 14:15:23 UTC

sounds like you believe in the science fiction with many fictional galaxies.

2018-10-06 14:16:23 UTC

Ok even if the earth were flat

2018-10-06 14:16:28 UTC

We know GOD created us because the firmament has been proven to exist

2018-10-06 14:16:30 UTC

How do we know God created us

2018-10-06 14:16:40 UTC

What I believe doesn't even matter. There is zero proof that we're important. We give things value so we declare ourselves important but it's subjective.

2018-10-06 14:16:43 UTC

and psalms 19.1 states:

2018-10-06 14:17:04 UTC

The Koran also speaks of a firmament

2018-10-06 14:17:17 UTC

I'm being completely objective

2018-10-06 14:17:34 UTC

Doesn't sound like it at all.

2018-10-06 14:17:44 UTC

we know that flat earth exists

2018-10-06 14:17:47 UTC

You sound like a typical human worshiping their own self importance.

2018-10-06 14:17:50 UTC

Many ancient cultures thought the earth was flat

2018-10-06 14:18:02 UTC

they might of been more advanced than us today

2018-10-06 14:18:18 UTC

Zero proof of that.

2018-10-06 14:18:36 UTC

remember when I talked about moral decay and societal collapse

2018-10-06 14:18:53 UTC

we don't understand how they created the pyramids, they had tech that was lost

2018-10-06 14:19:54 UTC

Ahhh yes, the pyramids. The ultimate symbol of mans accomplishments. Not like we have far more amazing mega structures now or anything.

2018-10-06 14:20:28 UTC

How could they have moved and stakced the big rocks?

2018-10-06 14:20:45 UTC

So, lets review, the idea that I'm promoting incest is wrong, and that just because in the ancient past it didn't cause problems (by design) we are no longer in that era.

2018-10-06 14:20:57 UTC

LOL

2018-10-06 14:21:58 UTC

And to that I said

2018-10-06 14:22:01 UTC

we have footage that pyramids were all over the planet, not just in egypt

2018-10-06 14:22:03 UTC

Kevin what you are saying is that we don't know enough so anything is possible even incest with the tree thing.

I'm saying, this is what we know currently our current extent and the actual future of the subject.

I'm working with speculation based on facts. You are trying to create a fanfiction of biology where you can justify the issue of inbreeding between two people and their children.

2018-10-06 14:22:12 UTC

They used slaves to build the pyramids. They'd carry materials by rolling them on logs. They had many many slaves. Your bible describes slave labor of the Egyptians. The slave labor in the bible wasn't the pyramids but still the Egyptians had workers and I don't think they cared too much about casualties on the job site. OSHA didn't exist yet.

2018-10-06 14:22:23 UTC

looks like a pyramid was spotted in antartica

2018-10-06 14:22:29 UTC

under ice

2018-10-06 14:22:36 UTC

no one is digging it up

2018-10-06 14:22:50 UTC

They said a pyramid-like structure was discovered under a mountain in Antarctica

2018-10-06 14:23:28 UTC

It's literally just a mountain

2018-10-06 14:24:50 UTC

I'm not buying that is a mountain

2018-10-06 14:25:01 UTC

Of course you wouldn't

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