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If there was only one website on the internet youโd have more of an argument but there isnโt
Okay Alex Jones for example, he's not allowed on Apple anymore but he isn't being arrested he's still doing his thing and doing his free speech.
He's being deplatformed but he can still say what he likes on his own website.
It would only be a freedom of speech problem if they arrested him
Being deplatformed is censorship
Yeah and being censored is not a freedoms of rights violation
But it is still censorship
@Satan The real question here is, โwho really owns the internetโ?
Is it okay for a private company to tell you to heck off?
Yes
Is it ethical?
But don't say that you're not censoring them because you are
And I'm not saying that it's wrong to do so
Depends
I'd say not
But that's me
Say I doxx someone should I be banned from discord?
@The Gwench there's no particular entity that does that
I think so
Yeah
Am I being censored?
Yes
So that's appropriate censorship?
Yes
Because I broke the laws of the service it was okay to ban me?
Yes it was okay
But that doesn't mean you weren't being censored
So censorship from online services isn't inherently bad
Never said it was..
I don't agree with it but it's not inherently bad
I just have a problem with people putting themselves on a high horse and preaching how they don't censor when they do exactly that
*cough* alt earth
Can you give me an example?
Oh wait lol
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@The Gwench do you agree with Fluff?
But yeah YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, they all censor you and no it isn't bad
Just read from your last message down ๐
It's within their right to decide what they allow in their platform
Oh that similey is a wee bit much
And I agree when you say that we agree to their conditions when we use their site so it's not really upon us to bitch about being censored
I agree with you so far, however I think calling censorship should be a more protected term.
I'm sure there's a word less strong that can be substituted for it in many cases
Because your speech isn't being suppressed just rerouted
Well I don't think being censored is necessarily a violation of freedom of speech
You can still say whatever just not in a certain place
So we agree but we are being pedantic about the terms?
Maybe lel
I think it boils down to the fact that when you think censorship you think โChinese governmentโ or North Korea, the first thing you think of isnโt YouTube deleting your pirated film
True
I do want Gwenchs take on this as she seemed to have a different opinion
In practice, itโs used to describe the extreme end more than the tiny little things like banning you from a website
She's also more invested as she has had her Twitter gotten by the big mass ban
Yeah puppy but I think that's what we were talking about
Shadow banning people would be censorship but it's also Facebook's right to be snowflakes
Loaded terms <:angery:486195953410244608>
4chan is d best
No rules
4chan is not good
It has everything
But I like places that don't have rules
Especially on internet
Reddit has everything but you don't have to put up with anything you don't want
Eh
Reddish quarantines subreddits
Reddit*
Yeah fair call for them
Only the illegal ones usually
Just the most toxic ones
I would have no problem with censorship if their intentions were to prevent harm to others or to the fate of our political process. However, how could that possibly be policed?
Or if theyโre getting a bit extreme and taking over like the_donald did
As much as I hate incels they weren't illegal
They had incredibly violent rhetoric
Not illegal
They are dicks
And they weren't doing anything illegal
Calling for death to all women is borderline crime
Is it?
@Satan It May be illegal if itโs considered to be slander.
Even if it's hilariously unachievable
I don't know if it's crime
@Satan Inciting violence is a crime.
O
Sucks
@The Gwench removing the fake news is to help the political process though, their main intent is to recover from the Cambridge anylictia issue
Apologies for spelling
It's late
If they find a way to not fuck up their algorithm and not remove satire and specifically target fake news then it'd be good but we all know that won't happen since Facebook sucks cock
That's what they are aiming for
@I-VaPE-ChEMtrAiLS How would we ever know if their intentions are true, or if to push their own personal agenda.
If they developed an algorithm that complex they could basically just make licensing that algorithm out their entire business model
Won't happen :^)
Say one party was making hundreds of thousands of misleading posts with the intent to split people apart if you stopped them posting would that be okay? @The Gwench
Hey guys. Iโm tired now and going back to bed. Thanks for the great discussion @Satan @xXPuppyLoverXx @I-VaPE-ChEMtrAiLS . ๐
Aight night
Thatโll be $20
Puppy you get paid by Soros you don't need my cash
Nighty @The Gwench
I thought it was nasa?
Or does he own them too
<:smart:484956754489376781>
NASA owns soros
@I-VaPE-ChEMtrAiLS Only if they can be proven to be misleading @I-VaPE-ChEMtrAiLS
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