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2018-08-30 08:32:42 UTC [The Ice Wall #members-log]  

2018-08-30 11:51:18 UTC [The Ice Wall #art-gallery]  

Cmon man I’m in public gimme some warning before you post that 😂

2018-08-30 12:12:28 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Yo

2018-08-30 14:23:24 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I think it’s the inside job thing, I’m not aware of anyone who denies that it actually happened at all

2018-08-30 14:23:32 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Is that a thing people do?

2018-08-30 14:23:51 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

🤔

2018-08-30 14:24:33 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

No true truther?

2018-08-30 14:26:01 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Chill man

2018-08-30 14:32:26 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

So who was responsible for demolishing it?

2018-08-30 14:34:10 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Also why?

2018-08-30 14:37:57 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

It’s always interesting to know why someone does something

2018-08-30 14:38:22 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

And also who

2018-08-30 14:38:24 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

And how

2018-08-30 14:38:31 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

And a bunch of other things

2018-08-30 14:40:36 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Also you need to know who did it to punish them

2018-08-30 14:40:54 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I know you’re a fan of banning people at random in 24/7 but that’s not very useful for justice 😂

I did a quick google and found this

So ima go with cow

2018-08-30 14:45:24 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

No but buildings collapsing is a very complex thing and I’d like to hear the opinion of a civil engineer or something on it

2018-08-30 14:47:24 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Wanting to know the opinion of somebody who’s qualified in this exact field is not an appeal to authority

2018-08-30 14:48:10 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

If I presented that guy’s opinion as truth because he’s a civil engineer, *then* it’s an appeal to authority

2018-08-30 14:49:02 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

However I value the opinion of somebody who spent years learning how this stuff works a lot more than random conspiracy theories

2018-08-30 14:51:40 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

@Meme_War_Vet I would still trust a chartered engineer over a guy who learnt everything from YouTube 😂

2018-08-30 14:53:09 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Imagine the chaos if all the airliners in the world were built by self taught plane enthusiasts

2018-08-30 17:45:38 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I can sort of work out why R=2

2018-08-30 17:45:47 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I wouldn’t have got that without being told though

2018-08-30 17:45:55 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Fuck electronics

2018-08-30 17:52:06 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Why aren’t you allowed a multimeter in these questions

2018-08-30 17:53:14 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

😂

2018-08-30 17:53:34 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Oh

2018-08-30 17:53:35 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Hold on

2018-08-30 17:54:25 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I GOT 2 OHMS

2018-08-30 17:54:27 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

HA

2018-08-30 17:54:27 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

YES

2018-08-30 17:55:22 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Total current through both branches is 10A, not 5A

2018-08-30 17:56:03 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Ohms law gives you resistance of 1.6 ohms in the 2 branches

2018-08-30 17:56:13 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Then you do that funny parallel resistance thing to find R

2018-08-30 17:56:20 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Ahh, I can sleep tonight

2018-08-30 20:29:11 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Meh, I was stumped for a while then I tried to reverse engineer it from the answer

2018-08-30 20:29:16 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Then I realised where I went wrong

2018-08-30 20:29:28 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Lmao

2018-08-30 20:30:15 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Ohms law best law

2018-08-30 20:32:29 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Yeah as soon as you realise it, it’s actually simple

Yes

Rip meme war vet

Wow that was a train wreck of a conversation

>all globe earthers have nothing but lies and attacks
>uses nothing but lies and attacks

He seems like a lovely guy

Because people might disagree with them and they can’t ban them

2018-08-31 07:32:11 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Don’t think he’s here

It’s a garbage server

Full of FE mods so anyone who disagrees with them gets piled on and then banned

FE mods also means they post all these proofs that modern science is wrong that are full of lies but nobody is allowed to call them out for it

Save your sanity

Stay out

If you scroll up, that meme war vet guy is an admin there

I’m not kidding, the more crazy you are, the higher you get ranked there

Literally everything he said there is a lie

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

He can’t handle people questioning him

“Reeeeee you’re all wrong and liars and I’m right with my pseudoscience and lack of a functioning model”
*quits*

I would love to see these trolls that he allegedly converted to FE

Honestly, just don’t go in there

There is nothing for you there

It’s not detention, it’s “cognitive dissonance” where they force you to read a ton of flat earth material before they let you out

Literally the most patronising thing I’ve ever seen

Do they? Huh

I’m really behind the times apparently

And half the mods from there are now mods here 😄

I mean

It wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest

Don’t forget Indio with his “all science is pseudoscience” thing

Really? I’ve literally only seen Debbie and greyson

Don’t forget the YouTube videos

Like where he took one clip out of context and concluded “rockets don’t work in a vacuum”

“Can’t disprove his actual science? Call him indoctrinated and force him to read a bunch of shitty books”

I try not to

Then they post shit like this

There’s nothing wrong with finding it hard

But the correct reaction is “let me go and make the effort to learn it” not, “all of science is wrong because I don’t understand it”

Every so called debunking I’ve seen has revolved around completely misunderstanding it

“If gravity is real why don’t people get attracted to each other on the street” etc

That’s a classic Derek one there

If you draw a simple free body diagram you’ll see that having weight and being able to fly aren’t mutually exclusive

It’s sad

You can’t teach someone who doesn’t want to learn

It’s almost as though it’s taught in literally every school on the planet

The amount of times I’ve seen “X is really just a theory!” Is saddening

A lot of people seem to get stuck in the whole “if I can’t repeat it myself then it’s wrong”

Which rules out anything that requires more than a couple hundred dollars of equipment or materials even remotely hazardous

CAVENDISH

>FE: here’s a video demonstrating the crazy effects of refraction across a lake
>also FE: this laser proves flat earth WITH ZERO REFRACTION BECAUSE WE SAID SO

What an idiot 😂

I believe he goes by Johnny mcBraincancer now

But how will they make a misleading documentary then?

2018-08-31 11:44:44 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Oh

@Citizen Z what’s up why am I tagged

Sorry been travelling for a couple days not watching discord

2018-09-03 14:40:09 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Yo

2018-09-03 15:01:39 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Nah I’ve seen people who aren’t FE get banned for disagreeing there

2018-09-03 15:02:52 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

🤔

2018-09-03 15:02:58 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Oh were they trolls

2018-09-03 15:03:00 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Is that it

2018-09-03 15:08:48 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

You know what else makes craters? Meteors

2018-09-03 15:12:56 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Whatever you say to discredit me man

2018-09-03 15:12:58 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

You do you

2018-09-03 15:14:01 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I had a bunch of experiments and simulations that I did in AE actually

2018-09-03 15:15:26 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I’m on 4G, I’ll dig them up when I get home

2018-09-03 15:15:49 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

From my back garden, I was able to calculate the radius of the earth to within 2.4% of the commonly accepted value

2018-09-03 15:26:47 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

@Sojourner we know from the basic laws of physics that things accelerate towards the surface of the moon, so you don’t get super angled impacts because the angle is naturally reduced because of the change in velocity towards the surface

2018-09-03 15:27:16 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

And we know that the angle doesn’t have an enormous impact on the shape of the crater from computer modelling and lab testing of hypervelocity projectiles

2018-09-03 15:27:37 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

There are a lot of papers on it if you google round, I can’t right now because I’m trying to save data

2018-09-03 15:30:21 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I think I am too

2018-09-03 15:30:30 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

It’s ok though I don’t fancy going back

2018-09-03 15:31:15 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Nah I was ages ago

2018-09-03 15:31:35 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Got banned for pointing out that a p900 won’t give good images of planets

2018-09-03 15:33:01 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I’m not lying lmao

2018-09-03 15:33:13 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Don’t believe me if you don’t want to but I’m not making it up

2018-09-03 15:33:25 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Dat name

2018-09-03 15:33:40 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Whatever floats your boat man

2018-09-03 15:34:02 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Try and model it yourself then if you don’t believe me

2018-09-03 15:34:12 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

We know how materials behave at super high energies

2018-09-03 15:34:35 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Don’t ask me a question if you’re going to immediately reject my answer

2018-09-03 15:34:56 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

>propagandist

2018-09-03 15:34:57 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Lmao

2018-09-03 15:35:06 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Wait I think that was punisher they got banned for that

2018-09-03 15:35:07 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Idk

2018-09-03 15:35:27 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

@Sojourner I don’t see how that’s relevant

2018-09-03 15:35:42 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Of course

2018-09-03 15:36:36 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Do you think it’s weird how the computer simulations match perfectly with actual lab tests?

2018-09-03 15:39:05 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I dodged the question because it’s completely irrelevant

2018-09-03 15:39:25 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

You don’t present the computer model itself as evidence, you use it to make predictions that we test in a lab

2018-09-03 15:39:56 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Then why do they match the results of the tests so well?

2018-09-03 15:40:37 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

1. Irrelevant
2. Maybe the mainstream narrative is right?

2018-09-03 15:41:07 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Can we please get back to the original topic

2018-09-03 15:41:20 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I’m not an expert on 9/11 theories

2018-09-03 15:41:33 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I’m slightly more of an expert on physics and mechanics

2018-09-03 15:41:54 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

They are completely different types of model

2018-09-03 15:42:39 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

And for the 8 millionth time, I refer to the models because they make accurate predictions of reality

2018-09-03 15:43:15 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

It’s a lot more complicated than that and you know it

2018-09-03 15:43:39 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Why do these models that can be made to say anything accurately predict reality?

2018-09-03 15:43:58 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

@6429🦉 I don’t live near any lakes, so no

2018-09-03 15:44:08 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

How exactly did you account for refraction?

2018-09-03 15:44:24 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

@Satan tell that to thanos

2018-09-03 15:46:26 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

No I’m asking how you did it

2018-09-03 15:46:33 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Not how you think I would do it

2018-09-03 15:47:01 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

You’re right, I haven’t

2018-09-03 15:47:15 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

So fill me in, how would I do it?

2018-09-03 15:48:14 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

When people say “you tell me, and I’ll say if you’re right” that’s usually because they don’t know and were hoping you wouldn’t call their bluff

2018-09-03 15:49:22 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Surely in the name of science he should tell me so I can go and do the experiment myself

2018-09-03 15:54:31 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Basically

2018-09-03 15:54:59 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Remind me to ping ctw tomorrow and ask him for his method

2018-09-03 15:55:25 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Unless he used someone else’s experiment, which seems to be the same thing he just berated me for 🤔

2018-09-03 15:56:24 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I love how often I get labelled a troll for disagreeing with people though

2018-09-03 15:57:27 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

For real, they don’t seem to understand that if I wanted to troll I’d come in and post a load of porn or something

2018-09-03 15:57:30 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Something fun

2018-09-03 15:57:36 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Not respectfully disagree with people

2018-09-03 15:58:31 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I know you wouldn’t even need to debunk anything

2018-09-03 15:58:40 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

“SHUT UP TROLL”

2018-09-03 16:00:01 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

A really long winded joke that ends with “there’s no punchline”

2018-09-03 16:18:55 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

@Citizen Z do I need a pass for q&a?

2018-09-03 16:39:45 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Can I have one?

2018-09-03 16:49:26 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Ty

2018-09-04 12:13:58 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

🤔

2018-09-04 12:15:46 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

If it’s an ice wall why is it in the middle of Antarctica

2018-09-04 12:36:27 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Is it stuffed? Or regular

2018-09-04 12:54:19 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Can an infinite flat plane enclose a finite area?

2018-09-04 12:55:04 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

What is the other end of the pillars attached to?

2018-09-04 12:55:32 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

The anti earth that the government don’t want you to drill down to

2018-09-04 13:01:36 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

You can get hollow stalactites too

2018-09-04 13:01:41 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

They’re called straws iirc

2018-09-04 13:02:04 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

It’s actually got a semi solid, chocolatey filling

2018-09-04 13:02:22 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Exactly

2018-09-04 13:02:29 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

With the added bonus that it’s a sphere

2018-09-04 13:03:17 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Yeah but when it cools it’s way too hard to eat

2018-09-04 13:04:14 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I heard it sometimes shoots out of the surface and buries nearby towns

2018-09-04 13:06:39 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Eww fuck that

2018-09-04 13:14:25 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Nah Ferrari rocher is just awful

2018-09-04 13:14:44 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

The Italians need to stick to pasta and sports cars, chocolate isn’t for them 😂

2018-09-04 13:23:53 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Clearly need to step up the intelligent design

2018-09-04 14:42:57 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Yo

2018-09-04 15:29:47 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

You need to learn the truth

Am I missing something

What’s wrong with Mylar blankets

They’re warm af

And they make great telescopes

2018-09-05 07:31:10 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Cannibalism?

2018-09-05 07:31:16 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Seal clubbing?

2018-09-05 07:31:24 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Oh god does he use discord light theme?

2018-09-05 07:32:54 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Ribs

2018-09-05 07:35:22 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

They’re great

2018-09-05 07:37:18 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

>youre

2018-09-05 07:37:26 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

YOU ARE DAD DUMB

2018-09-05 07:37:49 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Sorry it’s early

2018-09-05 07:37:59 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I’m not due to wake up until 12

2018-09-05 07:38:15 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

2018-09-05 07:38:46 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

F

2018-09-05 09:13:24 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

The more you reject them and tell them you don’t want them there, the less likely they are to integrate

2018-09-08 13:48:47 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Probably a bit of both

2018-09-08 13:51:32 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Often offering up a bit of money can help kick start the development of what they need

2018-09-08 13:52:22 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

NASA’s budget is fairly limited so if they can avoid footing the bill for what seems to be a brand new chemical process, I can’t say I blame them

2018-09-08 13:52:44 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

K man whatever you say

2018-09-08 13:53:40 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Even if it doesn’t get used to go to mars, a vast number of technologies nasa helped develop end up being used in places on earth that we would never expect

2018-09-08 13:54:28 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

If you do a bit of googling around you’ll find a gigantic list of technologies that they helped develop

2018-09-08 13:55:14 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

The industries that use their new technology to make new products make the money

2018-09-08 13:56:01 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Eh

2018-09-08 13:56:51 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Nobody says we lost the tech to go to space

2018-09-08 13:58:33 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASA_spinoff_technologies even if they didn’t go to space, there’s a ton of things there that directly impact everyday life

2018-09-08 13:58:55 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

?

2018-09-08 13:59:37 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Don’t have data to watch it, what does it say?

2018-09-08 14:00:28 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Well they’re not wrong at the moment

2018-09-08 14:00:37 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I don’t see any flight worthy Saturn Vs

2018-09-08 14:01:45 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

A scam that produces a vast list of useful technologies for everyone? 🤔

2018-09-08 14:02:03 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Who cares about their motive

2018-09-08 14:02:24 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Everyone does their job for money

2018-09-08 14:03:02 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Well you’re technically not wrong

2018-09-08 14:04:20 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Ok man you clearly don’t want to listen to me so carry on believing what you want

2018-09-08 14:04:41 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Just curious as to why nasa are so evil but all the other space agencies never get mentioned

2018-09-08 14:05:42 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

...that produces huge amounts of valuable technology?

2018-09-08 14:07:37 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

That’s exactly my point

2018-09-08 14:08:08 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Even if it turned out all the space stuff is bs you’d still get huge amounts of life changing technology from them

2018-09-08 14:08:54 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

When did they do that?

2018-09-08 14:09:16 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Can you give specifics?

2018-09-08 14:10:35 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Having an idea and developing it into a viable technology are very different things

2018-09-08 14:10:38 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Sup man

2018-09-08 14:11:01 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

>under contract from nasa

2018-09-08 14:11:32 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Irrelevant, it was still invented as a result of nasa

2018-09-08 14:11:42 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Therefore it’s considered a technology developed by nasa

2018-09-08 14:14:36 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

DOLLA DOLLA

2018-09-08 14:15:24 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

They initially developed LIDAR for automated docking of fake spacecraft in fake space, but now that same technology is used for LASIK surgeries

2018-09-08 14:15:39 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Who cares why they developed it, it’s fantastically useful in unforeseen places

2018-09-08 14:18:13 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Instead theyre constantly making their patents public domain so anyone can use them for free

2018-09-08 14:18:19 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Doesn’t seem good for business to me

2018-09-08 14:20:44 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

JAXA gets 2 billion dollars a year from the Japanese government, I don’t see anyone accusing them of being a scam

2018-09-08 14:21:40 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

ESA gets almost €6 billion a year, no one calls them a scam

2018-09-08 14:21:52 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Musk seems to be going off the rails a tad recently

2018-09-08 14:22:03 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Tesla themselves are great

2018-09-08 14:22:10 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I’ve driven one, it is absolutely sublime

2018-09-08 14:22:49 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I think he needs to hire someone to take care of Tesla for him like he did with SpaceX and just take a break

2018-09-08 14:24:08 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I admire how dedicated he is but it’s not sustainable

2018-09-08 14:25:01 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I think it boils down to the fact that he expects them to be as single minded to Tesla as he is

2018-09-08 14:25:22 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Iirc he literally slept in the factory during the model 3 production hell

2018-09-08 14:26:25 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

We’re basically watching the fallout from living like that right now

2018-09-08 14:27:35 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I feel really bad for the guy

2018-09-08 14:27:38 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

He’s had some really rough marriages

2018-09-08 14:27:48 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Apparently he lost a kid and didn’t take it very well

2018-09-08 14:29:33 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

After going through all that, doubling down on your work doesn’t really seem unreasonable idk

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