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oh nobody is takling herre ok

https://youtu.be/wxh_t0NxSDs

I'm Hitler

@BASED_BRIT doot doot

This shouldn’t even be a controversial statement.
https://republicstandard.com/race-realism-is-not-racism/

Anyone ever seen this lulzy movie, Hard Candy?

fucking great lol

Who here is a fan of the human centipede, but in real life?

Im trying to make the real thing come true

I'm a commie and why should I be banned?

I just wanted to talk to right wingers and I'm being banned for my political stance. That's silly. I guess the right wing heroes that point at "the left" for "silencing" people don't always wear capes.

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@Diablo Real communists are better than generic western conservatives any day

Real communists, like authoritarian socialist, centrally planned economy with a strongman in charge

Mao, Kim il-Sung, Stalin

I'm an Marxist-Leninist don't worry

Hitler

Good

Hitler's not a commie

notmycomrade

Hitler fights the same fight as Stalin

He is my comrade as much as Stalin

did he transfer over the means of production to the worker? did he have soviet democracy? did he believe that the end goal would be a classless stateless society?

The Stalin constitution meant nothing at all, Stalin was an authoritarian leader. In UdSSR there was centrally planned economy

It was Socialism, not Communism

do you know what socialism is? Socialism is supposed to be a centralized government with a democracy run by the workers with private industry being abolished. Fascism in Germany however used corporatism. Corporatism is the main tactic in setting up a Fascist society. It's literally in The Doctrine of Fascism.

Besides there's one whole section in Th Doctrine of Fascism called: The Rejection of Marxism.

Not a fascist

How?

It is very simple, when the German forced invaded Russia in 1941, the Russian defenses collapsed. However, the vast size of Russia gave Stalin time to think and what he came up with was really a nationalist branch of economic Socialism. Stalin revived the old ranks and orders of the Russian Imperial Army to make the Red Army simply the Russian Army and stressed patriotic appeals in his internal propaganda. He portrayed his war against Nazi Germany not as a second "Red" war but as "Vtoraya Otechestvennaya Vojna", meaning The Second Patriotic War, the first such war being the Tsarist defense against Napoleon. He deliberately put himself in the shoes of Russia's Tsars, though he was left-wing like all great revolutionaries.

Russian Nationalism proved as strong if not stronger than it's German equivalent. And to this day, Russians still refer to the Second World War as simply "Vtoraya Otechestvennaya Vojna". Stalin became a nationalist Leftist when he saw how effective that was in getting popular support, in beating Russias only true geopolitical rival in Europe.

Patriotism =/= Nationalism

Besides Yugoslavia was invaded was invaded by the Nazis and the USSR came and aided the rebels.

And to go back to the Napoleonic era for a moment, the original leftist Nationalist: Napoleon Bonaparte, who was the child and heir of the very first leftist revolution, the French Revolution and he is to this day lauded as the man who took the "ideals" of the French Revolution to the rest of Europe. Like all leftist dictators, he preached social equality and built up around himself a cult of the leader that was very much the same as that built up around themselves by Stalin, Mao, Kim Il Sung etc. In the end it was mainly competition for power that set Hitler and Stalin on a collision course. It was a Geopolitical struggle, between two competing dipoles of economic and regional power, this was not an ideological conflict as westerners make it out to be.

wtf thats revolutionary liberalism where they tried to take down the monarchies

marxism wasn't invented back then

Stalin showed that National Socialism could be used effectively against another National Socialist, but it took Ho Chi Minh's regime and its Southern extension to demonstrate that National Socialism could even defeat the United States and their French allies. That Ho Chi Minh was a Socialist is hardly now disputable and it is also clear that he had Vietnamese Nationalism working for him in his fight against the American interventionists. Their foreignness made this easy to do. Note that the Viet Cong were formally known as the National Liberation Front. Their primary ostensible appeal was in fact national, though their Socialism was of course never seriously in doubt. So the Nationalism of Ho Chi Minh's regime gave it widespread support or at least co-operation in the South as well as in the North. Ho thus stole the emotional clothes of the conservatives as effectively as Hitler did and the magic mix of Nationalism and Socialism was once again shown to be capable of generating enormous military effectiveness against apparently forbidding odds.

Although it's all readily available in the history books, practically none of it ever reaches public consciousness. Given that Hollywood, the media and the educational system are overwhelmingly left-leaning in the modern postwar sense, that is hardly a surprise. The modern Left, the Trotskyites and Anarcho-Marxists cannot AFFORD to have the public at large realize that the great Totalitarians and Bonapartist Nationalists of the 20th century were all revolutionary leftist Socialists, including Hitlerist Germany, and that modern postwar Leftists who oppose Nationalism are just fashionable stupid kids or rootless cosmopolitan human scum!

also wtf is Anacrho-Marxism?

Anarchy is merely a tool for those willing enough to use it, to take power for themselves.

besides they weren't socialist they sold off a large chunk of they're state industry to capitalists

Correct, which is why Hitler should have been replaced in the early stages.

You said up in chat that Hitler was a socialist

He was, but not far enough

wtf

State industry is part of socialism

private industry would be abolished

Next time it will be ten times more National, and ten times more Social

Next time, it will be National Stalinism.

Esoteric Juche

For Germanic ethnicities within Central Europe

You don't understand what national socialism is. You think national socialism is nationalism + socialism, but if we are to take Nazi Germany as the prime example of what national socialism is, we realise that this is not that case. Socialism is very much against privitizing industry, the Nazis however privitised much of the industry, menaing it wasn't at all socialist. It's not even comparable to the NEP or New Democracy, as those were small privitizatioon measures after much of everything was nationalized, unlike in Hitlers Germany which had majority private industry and very loose restraints on the capitalists. Also Hitlers Germany was right wing nationalist, which is anti marxist, unlike vietnam which was left wing nationalist. Right wing nationalism seeks to conquer while left wing nationalism is about national liberation

Correct, which is why the ideal course of things would have seen Hitler replaced with someone who would not stray from the original doctrine, Goebbels for instance.

Then why did you say Hitler was a Socialist?

He was

Be a Strasserist lol

He trusted the bourgeois class to much

That is why Germany lost the war

That is why Stalin won

What exactly was the original doctrine then?

wait if Hitler was a socialist then why did he side with fascist Italy and imperial Japan?

Geopolitical convenience

Why did he attack the USSR?

As I said, WW2 was not ideological in the slightest

Romania

It was simply the continuation of European geopolitics

As WW3, WW4, WW5, etc etc, will be the continuation of European geopolitics

but you said this wasn't ideological

Ideologies are leveraged to lay down common doctrine, to rally support from populations, but Warfare is about geopolitics

The ideology is the foundation from which an imperialist nation can expand

no it was about lebensraum

Which is the continuation of German geopolitics

Ever since the Germanic tribal confederations existed, there were wars for Lebensraum

Which was 3.000 years ago.

no its the expansion of living space for the germans to expand they're empire

Yes, this has been a thing for thousands of years

Slavs used to occupy up to the Elbe river

They kind of do now, again, because of WW2

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UY98EypmH7k

Steven crowder

Is just a propaganda maker

For Israel

He's paid and funded to spread misinformation

he was debunked in the video

No such thing as Liberal Socialism

Good, beat the shit out of him

And no such thing as democratic socialism

socialism is democratic naturally

how?

Soviet Democracy

Socialism is state dictatorship

>Soviet democracy

It's 1 party system

the workers had councils to decide where things were distributed

Sure they did