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@MsNatSocialist you have first hand experience with how bad this idea is, I don't understand how you can defend the socialism part of national socialism
as larpy as it sounds, national capitalism is the way forward
free markets inside our borders, protectionist policies when we engage with the outside world to protect our interests
what say you yuge of the idea of lending newly married couples some money and cutting 1/4 of the debt every time they have a baby
It was a legal way of changing laws without actually changing any laws and it being perfectly legal and cut off the middle man. It was sly and completely underhanded.
I left that job because the internal politics got too dirty.
i mean, it's not ideal but it'd be a better system than the current social safety net
it'd be better not to tax and spend in the first place
the government devalues every dollar it takes in taxes
what say you of roads
@Campin' Carl i'd rather do that than pay a bunch of niggers to have kids
you know what you said before about internal and external trade policies was basically what australia started with
one could make an argument for roads, but you must understand it's going to have a tendency to become a black hole for money
one whole argument for federation was to create a strong external trade border but eliminating internal tariffs between states
infrastructure is important, I don't know anyone that does it well TBH
albert speer was good at that wasnt he?
At the end of the day, you've got to tax someone and it should only be tax to you if you use the facility or item.
I am 100% in favor of use fees
what are they then
roads are the biggest example of where pragmatism gets in the way of that
but most things could be more effectively funded through use fees rather than taxes
@Campin' Carl why did austraila move away from the free internal markets/protected trade engagements arrangement?
we had em right up till the 90s
defense is one of the few areas of goverment expenditure that can be justified
regardless of who pays in, everyone inside a state's borders benefits from the spending, and it's not realistic to exclude those who don't pay in from benefitting
could you spell defence properly
you'll be alright
this cunt got rid of our protectionist policies
then y'all bought into the f-35
that was abbott i think
yea it was later
he started the downhill slide
should have bought f/a-18 super hornets TBH
we should buy an aircraft carrier or 2 first
or just make them
Free markets is a libertarian idea and it's impossible to recreate. At the end of the day someone has to pay someone to do something and I'd rather not have to deal with the logistical nightmare of community funding micro financial departments.
Especially if you live in cities or suburbs.
Also who pays for defense? Who pays for military? who pays for people to do these micro treasuries?
Who pays for these things?
so you're into wasting incomprehensibly large amounts of people's money
did you not read what I just wrote? I said defense is one of the few justifiable government expenditures
because you can't exclude those who don't pay from the service
bureaucracy increases the cost of things too you know
No, I'm not... But who will do this stuff for free? Who will have the time?
NASA had a lot of trouble with that you know
some of their nuts and bolts were costing $500 per piece
10 times the cost of it commercially
i think there should be a national defence force paid for via taxes
but theres gotta be a certain amount of cooperation betweet government and businesses
nobody does it for free
you pay use fees for the thigns you use
want to use a park? pay a fee
dont' use the park? you shouldn't be forced to pay for it
I don't think I shoudl be forced to pay for a nigger history museam, for instance
But the park looks pretty and it'll make my neighborhood look pretty.
we could go on for years bringing up examples of government expenditures that have absolutely no justification
i think he means car park
patronize it then
why do you want to use the absolutely least cost effective means to provide these things?
that makes absolutely no sense
and it's why the US is fucking $20 trillion in debt
can you even comprehend how much money that is?
i thought that was because youre being forced to pay for niggers
exactly, forced to pay for pointless government programs
you shoudl go to an american park sometime, it's filled with niggers and spics
if the niggers had to actually bear the cost, they wouldn't fucking go
youre talking about those city parks arent you
but we all know they don't pay any taxes yet use up all the services the white people pay for
or national parks
well the national park i live next to never has niggers or spics in it
or frankly, 98% of the shit governmetn funds
I'm a woman, I care about these things... I don't want my neighborhood boring to look at, I want it to be pleasing. Parks, lakes, bike tracks, running tracks etc... I don't care if I don't use it... But I might want to one day, but I don't want to pay up front on a possibility that I might use it one day.
and as far as i know most of the cost spent on the park is controlled burn offs
this is why women shuold have been never given the vote
now we're $20 trillion in debt
i hope the feels are worth mortgaging several generations worth of decent lives
i think the main problem of america is its full of niggers and other undesirables
that just makes the bad behavior worse
I not abusing
sorry, i thought you just said here
you know now that i think about it
it was segmented
If a community doesn't have it because no one will use it or everyone doesn't know if they will use it - but won't put money on something that they may/may not use... then you'll have a bunch of people too conflicted on if they want one or not and if they want to pay upfront for something they may not use.
But then again, who will pay the upfront fees and labour?
in a white ethnostate you wouldnt need a national park
because there it would be anyway
Real dingo hours christ
and you could just go for a walk any time
Why aren't y'all in voice chat
instead us white people in america are forced to be tax cattle for diversity
because im listening to the shoah
and im fucking tired of it
so you can keep larping abotu natsoc and pretty things, but it's fucking stupid and i'm tired of bearing the burden of the idiotic economic policies
well yuge, come and visit me for a couple weeks and see what you think of living in a white country
this is why I'm moving to tennessee
no state income taxes
very low property taxes
very friendly business laws
everything east of nashville is more white than the national average
doesnt texas as well as also have no state income tax?
some counties are 95%+ white
but they have an 8.5% sales tax
but it has mexicans
you know now that i think about it youd hate it in australia
in the grand scheme of things, it's one of the more attractive states in the US
everything is taxes
I just think TN is nicer
leave me alone
let me spend my money as i see fit
ever heard of GST?
i think its 10% here
i'd be OK with GST if the income tax were removed
basically everything is taxed for 10%
taxing consumption makes about a million times more sense than taxing production (income)
Get in voice
on top of booze and tobacco taxes, income tax
yea, taxing both sides of the equation makes no sense
Everyone hates Chef
chef, I'm about to go to sleep
im not getting in voice
i should have been in bed an hour ago btu i had to shoot down natsoc larping
because im tired of seeing it paraded as some sort of good economic idea
I'm prepping for a rally tomorrow.
you know booze is twice or even thrice as expencive here than anywhere else
how illegal is it to home distill?
like 88 illegals?
i know youre allowed to homebrew beer and cider and whatnot
my friends dad likes to make gruppa
which is basically ethanol
yea you're allowed to home brew here, but not distil
well i think you're allowed to make like 4 gallons a year or something
tbh i wouldnt be surprised if thats the national monthly consumption of beer here
probably more, but i'm talking spirits
how much is 4 gallons in litres?
tbh id go through that much spirits a month if i had the money
but when vodka is $60 a bottle
ive kept a bottle of russian standard going for nearly a year
im surprised homebrewing/distilling isn't a bigger part of your culture with that level of tax
well it is
you know of our moonshining culture, right?
coopers has a very popular brand of home brew kits for sale
that's specifically because of taxes
we get coopers here, pretty good stuff tbh
SA stuff, most popular beer in australia and its actually australian
where is VB made?
its made here but its not owned by australians
veebs was bought out by sabmiller, a south african company
same guys who own fosters
i didnt know coopers was international though
on the coopers brewing company though
Its shares are primarily owned by the extended Cooper family, and the company's constitution and classes of shares makes it difficult to sell shares outside the family.
budweiser was bought by inbev
it comes in red, yellow, and green bottles, right?
theyre the 4 main bottles
thats sparkling ale, stout and pale ale
theres also brown, dark ale
orange, mild ale
I think we get 3
those are the 3 I see around, anyway
pale, sparkling and stout
heres the rest
is thier pilsner any good?
never tried it
ive tried sparkling, pale, mild, stout, dark and clear
I'm generally a fan of darker beers
but I enjoy pilsner when it's hot out
dark and clear are my preferred of the lot
if you ever get a chane to try this, try it http://cdn.thebeercritic.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/littleyellapils.jpg
i don't know that they export
but it's good shit
if they do id have to go to dan murphies or some other fancy booze shop
at it's like $10 USD for a 6 pack here, so it's probably like $60/6 pack there if you can even get it
it's not that good
you can get it in sydney apparently
$5.50 for a single can
oh theyre out of stock anyway
well all the oskar blues stuff is good
if you ever want to venture into some 'murica brews
hmmm i like the ol saying, seppo piss is like making love in a canoo
fucking close to water
nah that stuff isn't
I think the pils is 5.5%
their pale ale is 6%
that is true for the macrobrews, but not the microbrews
@JohnnyMonoxide Great Paranormies episode, listening to it now, this shit has been on Youtube for some time, it's scary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDMSdf3U2s4 OK this is getting fuckeed up
There's tons of these, holy fuck...
Just have to listen to foreigners
You're the good ones
Where do babies come from?
Fuckin a when ya fuck a cunt in the cunt you get a right fuckin visit from a new cunt fuckin a
Someone read dis