yes and identity politics is the distraction that gets in the way...

but its more then just playing the victim to get every thing for free what will u say if i say i give u every thing for free or u gna have to work and buy it your self with road u gna take

what road will u take

work or eff

eff (everything for free

@DirtNapBrand Victim, black, white, stop using these words immediately, focus on the real issues.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MITcsCUHT40

@DirtNapBrand I am a reasonable person, I dont even accept money for work not rendered, because i know debt is an ugly thing, there are always strings attached... so I will always choose work and an honest earning of my salary so that I dont have to be concerned about the future when I am to redeem my debt

And if you start a business and need capital

I will go to a bank, it's not a politician making empty promises that require me to give my vote and power to go to a bank and give me the same loan... lol

i agree 100% but ther is inave people on welfare in south africa what does that mean they want every thing for free not talking about people who is disbled or old or has look after some kid but not 13 kids

black people also grow there own poverty not just the white mans fault like they wane blame

we wane take them out of poverty but there own govement our own govermet will put all of us in poverty just to show the white man

yeah i dont agree with the polcies either, rewarding people to have babies is not reasonable... but look at it from the perspective of a democracy where majority rules along with propaganda of apartheid... this is intentional, planned with an agenda, it's exploitation. it's not reasonable.

yeah see this we all agree on anyways now, so at least now we on common ground

100 rasict laws against whites so we still in apartheid we just hiring and letting the people who wane kill us take our land clean and look after our house

hiring

:~

@Arcade_Hustle I think Theresa May is coming here for trade
Its part of african tour

https://www.businesslive.co.za/bd/national/2018-08-27-theresa-may-headed-for-sa-with-entourage-of-29-business-bigwigs/

i am voting for cope and thats no joke that man knows his history

I dont get the reference to apartheid there, we arent apart, we are mixed.... we are just being legally discriminated against. apartheid wasnt just race based laws, it was an idea

@Rox Sure she is lol

The two leaders discussed potential partnerships between the UK and SA, and efforts to strengthen bilateral trade and investment relations.

thats the only law missing#

That doesnt sound like sanctions

@Rox I don't think the topic would be discussed or shared with media so openly, no.

It would cause investor flight.

ANC still has a choice, still.

ok lets see

@DirtNapBrand yeah same. atm looks like my vote is also going to Cope

read it they only meeting tmrw she can tell him stop with this shit or no more funds trump on tweet she in real life

They have to actually EWC before sanctions
Does the 10% token payment count as EWC?

@Nidalap Rorrim Mine too

@Rox I think so, yeah.

Terror was the only one who spoke out against EWC loudly

@Rox it would be foolish to beat chest about this now, ANC needs to be given up until they take the first farm/mine deposit to decide our fate.

yeah DA is sitting on its thumb in regards to EWC

Maimane is ANC underneath.. speaks with 2 tongues

I dont like him

@Nidalap Rorrim This is all down to how ANC handles this, all of it.

where does EFF fit it.. he said bring it USA

isnt he the ANC mouthpiece

@Rox nah not in official capacity, he's just making noise.

eff is head of militery u guys know that#

no?

@Rox This is all up to what happens with Johan Steenkamp

one guy, one farm.

Johan told international media he will defend to the death

@Rox He's gonna get his shot then.

If Cyril is anything to go by.

Marikana

@Rox eff leader is head of militery so he is making more then noise

best way to hide things is with distraction. EFF is the ANC's distraction

I agree @DirtNapBrand No one stops him

and he proposes and ANC seconds

Even international media were more interested in him than cyril

They cause a lot of kak

farm invasions bullying people and companies

@Rox marikana not police fault if u storm a police officer with a knife dont u think u get shot same in the stikes of apartheid the stormed with knifes and trible weapons cops open fire they black now its wrong

yeah agree

but if Johan defends his land

whose fault is it

he will likely fire first

if white do that and they get shot i still satnd with the cops becz if some one sotms me with a knife i will shoot u

they taking his land with out is agrement so they fired first

Ya didnt they hack one cop up
So ofcourse youre gonna shoot when 100 run at you with pangas

@DirtNapBrand Ya but legally its theirs

then why do they have to exprophathed#

I really really hate this

not fair of them.. and against the spirit of the agreement of 94

if it legally there why do they have to chage the law so they can take it by prove they wanted to pay so they know its wrong famer dont wane sell lets chage the law to take it so were is it there

even with 10% token payment

@Rox Reality of the situation is terrible yeah 😦

Yeah it is

This is not what we signed up for

if its yours and u dont wane sell must u be forced

lol, no

just seems like no-one cares..
Like zimbabwe and rwanda

people are leaving

and the rest are scared / worried

me saying give me your car for 100 bucks u say no i say then we take it with out paying and if we have to with voilents what does that say to u

GG @DirtNapBrand, you just advanced to level 5!

not a peep about the validity of the claim. All you hear about is the amount offered

do they even have proof that the land was stolen

no

GG @Rox, you just advanced to level 10!

TAU has a reward up of R100k if you can show any farm was stolen
Never been claimed

no becz all the 90 percent off land that was claimed in 1994 and up words has bean payed and most of they all took the money

This isnt about land..
For the masses its revenge
For the politicians its collaterial for china

The truth was murdered a while ago

people in this country is lazy they dont wane work so they vote eff

yeah entitled

gimme or I burn it down

i don't know. I still think those stuff are from the minority

the number of ppl in the protests would be far greater

I pray you are right

yeah 80s protests were massive

but i have yet to hear loud voices from the ANC voters saying we dont want land

tribes moved all over africa never stayed for long then moved again as winter comes they move to were its hotter when summer comess they move down go look what season it was when the boer found the zule one there tracj