If what they want happens, they'd be out of a job.

I'd have to say you overestimate the percentage of people who actually seem to want these problems to exist.

Both sides have their polarizing topics

Both sides are dependent on the issues they bring to bear being 100% unassailable

that's why the near left and near right don't seem to want to solve problems when they're in political power, and tend to follow more extreme forces represented as their peers

and the far left and far right are prone to redefining language in order to suit their narratives.

Right now, in political power, we've got more representatives in the far left that are in the mainstream.

If you notice, on the right side of things

You've got people who are more easily swayed by the left, you've got a 'middle right', and you've got the 'far right' actors calling for extremes

but it's not the far right that's being silenced.

It's the middle.

Folks like Stephen Crowder, Milo, etc get kicked off of Youtube, especially

because they are more likely to actually rally the right to be able to do something useful.

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https://i.imgur.com/Mk3FFhw.gifv

Jesus christ I thought the 'Zuck is a robot' meme was overstated

His ears move when he smiles.

Very visibly.

Also, @RyeNorth I'm estimating 5% of the full leftist population wants that shit to continue to exist. Not the 'left-leaning' not the 'left-sympathising', I'm talking about the 'institute gay luxury space communism now, put anyone to the right of Stalin up against the wall and have them shot' people.

Hell, and they might not even consciously want it.

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Most people aren't profiting off of it.

All it is going to take is for one country's population to erupt into a violent uprising over what is going on, and it will start cascade effect wherein more will follow suit.

The ones that are are the real sociopaths, generally.

And I think this is an inevitability.

Violent, no

The important thing to be on the right side of history is to 1. Be the retaliatory force, and 2. Be overwhelming.

Yes, it's going to happen.

I believe shit will simply continue to move to the right, bit by bit, until people can no longer lie to themselves.

As much as I hate it, I think he's right.

And I mean violent as in, aimed at the own population.

There's gonna be shit doing down, and it ain't gonna be pretty, but it isn't gonna be a full civil war.

At least not in most countries, US excluded.

It may.

Nah, I mean it'll be either against the government or against the 'other', in this case being what will be viewed as foreign invaders.

I'm actually worried, at this point, about my own state possibly turning blue.

If that happens, shit's beyond fucked.

Nah.

If that does happen, I might have to move to South Carolina.

-_-

and I really don't want that.

The moment the state you're in turns blue, it's going to experience major backlash.

Or in the case that somehow neither of these happens, and these countries slowly become overrun with foreign cultures. I know I've asked this so much to the point of it being a meme, especially when it comes to islam, but what do you think is going to happen when they become the majority?

The state I'm in is experiencing California flight.

Californians are moving here in droves

Islam becoming the majority isn't going to happen in any major European nation.

People are massively overstating that.

It's not going to happen tomorrow, no lol.

Not even in Germany or France.

It's not going to happen, period.

Backlash will happen before then.

It's already happening in the US. Not with islam, no, but many of the hispanic people coming in are not Americans, in neither citizenship nor in culture.

I don't think that backlash is going to come peacefully, though.

Islam doesn't have to become the majority

I don't think it's going to result in Das Vierde Reich though.

it just has to gain enough votes to sway elections

It's downhill after that.

Nah.

All those people flowing into Europe? They're tribal as fuck.

It needs to get enough of the majority to vote for them, which is something very easy given our left's tendency to vote based on characteristics such as race.

At least here in the Netherlands, there's major conflict between the Morrocans and the Turks

That's extremely US centric thinking there.

I don't care. lol

The US political situation is not, I repeat, is not a valid representation of, nor a tool to be used as interpretation of, the political situation in other countries.

How about the UK then?

France?

Germany?

Sweden?

US centric thinking, illegal immigration isn't the same sort of concern - amnesty is.

Which one is representative?

None of the above?

Why do you think the politics in any one country can be automatically transposed onto another country?

The point is, and correct me if I'm wrong, the same ones who are allowing for rampant illegal immigration

are the same that are saying if they're here, they deserve a say, they deserve a vote.

Not in my country they're not

And even then they're losing in the polls.

And all they're doing is screaming racism.

Which is just making them lose more.

Then I think the point you'd want to make is that the smaller nations are going to be the leaders of rebellion against this status quo

Yeah.

There has been somewhat of a turnaround happening in Canada, too, actually.

Such as the Netherlands by your account, or Poland.

The Netherlands is actually quite a major player in the EU.

London, however, is essentially lost.

Doug Ford, who is already being referred to as 'Canada's Trump' is winning by a hefty margin if I recall.

In *Canada* of all places.

Like I said.

Backlash.

Make no mistake, I really hope you're right. lol

Nations that vote to give their 'refugees' voting rights won't be overturned without violence.

But yeah, I think it is safe to say some countries are 'lost' more than others.

Especially in the backlash scenario

Literally not one European country has even mentioned that anywhere remotely in their political agenda, let alone considered it.

where the populations move to more lenient places

I spend quite a lot of time on the /r/thenetherlands subreddit, and it's very, very left-wing.

It's quite interesting to see them basically scream in impotent rage as the 'far right' continues to gain ground.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/refugees-vote-scotland-elections-parliament-local-council-democracy-a8145496.html

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Scotland is not an independent country.