Another WOrking Class English Man is "Tommy Robinson", and he did his homework really well, Sargon tries really hard but it does look like he reached his peak or almost did it.

i dont get why people like styx.
he only talks most basic shit and his political view is bit lacking.

like i dont think he sees big picture at all.

Because he usually has a bit different view of things than others....

like for me he seems one of those guys who read alot but just repeats what he reads. and cant formulate his own view.

and he doesn't give a fuck about left and right, he sees himself as a radical centrist

Sargon, yes, Styx no

styx has a talent for extemporaneous bullshitting. makes him seem like he knows more than he does when he's able to ramble continuously without stopping to think or correct himself.

Sargon's a liberal and for the most part liberals seem to be under the mistaken understanding that the left are seeking out some kind of compromise with Sargon's ilk

styx might seem smart to someone who doesnt know about topic he is talking about, because he repeats some info you havent heard before.
but he cant really think him self.
like yeah he might have some "new views" because he always thinks "truth" must always be in middle. but thats logical fallacy.

I like Styx the same way I like ReviewBrah, he has an unusual persona he's not afraid to present to the interwebs

Sort of how I like Tim's skateboarder persona as well, though his experience with investigative reporting is even more important.

@Stefan Payne well idk styx but spencer lost debate to sargon, it was obvious, too obvious

although sargon is an easy bait

loool, no

and easy food

sadly i dont have a base so i cant debate sargon

Sargon was so bad, he can't won it, because he was a big asshole and constantly talked over Richard, laughed creepy and lost his calm a couple of times. So no, he lost the debate because of that.

investigative reporting is more blood warming than news critics, which sargon does well but he is a man of common folk and hopefully he is humble enough to know that

but there is difference betwen news reporting and political commentary.
and i dont really care about peoples personality. i care about truth.

wait is this about that old "what is white" debate.

When you ask why people like something you have ot prepared for the answer to be shallow

>sargon: what is white.
see i won that debate. kek.

whit is in group preference biological reality

``` he is humble enough to know that```
LOOOOOOL, no. See the Allsup video (though I've not seen it), but the existance of that video proves this claim wrong

oh ok

interesting

does sargon think he is that good?

You can test in-group preference iwth monkeys or chimps or crows

i saw him being humble in front of peterson and few times in his videos

so yeah i assumed he was

>allsup
Kek

like, james allsup?

that cunt that's reprimanding us brits for not getting a hard brexit, even though we can't cause May won't allow it?

Yes, because Allsup called Sargon out for some shit he does (like Insult Metakur with a UKIP Account), but basically he calls for Farrage to lead UKIP

ye

like farrage can now

i understand trying to criticise the politics and policies, but get research done before hand

He pulled out the dumb fake news pedo line. Also I had heard someone else was running the UKIP account but I can't confirm that

Sargon doesn't control @warplanpurple

Which makes Allsup's whole video fakenews

Kavanaugh is an alcoholic molester, change my mind

Impossible. Burden of Proof is on you.

If you'd like to discuss the merits of your argument, I'm game, but since this is an accusation, I'll need your argument first.

I'm memeing tbh

K.

So, a friend sent me a video, it's in Portuguese however there is an interesting part talking about the language used for Obamacare and how the left or as it is in the video title the ideas of Saul Alinksy talk about the change of language https://youtu.be/i11taVO1hIY?t=2646

I for one never had heard about this guy. Although he died in the 70's his ideas are very much what the left is today. I would encourage you guys to look into Saul Alinksy's life to learn about today's left.

You never heard of Saul Alinksy? His book Rules for Radicals is the playbook of the left.

aren't there thousands of versions?

nah

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rules_for_Radicals

Yeah I never heard of him before. In the beginning of the video he mentions that kind of proves his ideas right

Not many people know about him

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentation_ethics

I'm really confused by Tim's stance on Ford.

There's nobody coming forward to confirm the allegations and everyone has denied it ever took place. But I still believe Ford because her story isn't especially lurid. Her story seems coached and she's lied on the issue of flying. But she's probably telling the truth. She's being coached, but they wouldn't have told her to avoid stating things that might cause red flags nor would they have rehearsed these talks to insure she seemed genuine. All the evidence points one way (her claims are false at worst, un-provable and contradicted at best)

Yet, she's still being truthful.

About the only way he could resolve the whole thing is if he thinks these new guys claiming to be the actual assailants are telling the truth. But those are anonymous persons and the whole thing is so weird it's going to take some rather crazy evidence to prove. I *think* Tim is alleging that the Democrats put her up to this (which is actually far worse on the Democrats part than her lying) and she's just horribly mistaken.

But frankly, I find it all kind of meandering. Is the assertion that her story is true? It would seem to contradict all evidence Tim is laying out.

Will agree the whole thing is pretty disgusting and things are getting way too intense.

She isn't being Truthfull.

@pratel I agree. Even accepting Tim's explanation she's letting herself be used for political reasons, which still points to her being dishonest. I stated this in general chat, but unfortunately this means I know I can't trust Tim in the future on any sexual assault cases.

Tim doesn't understand if he defends every accuser (he says everyone is shit who attacks survivors) he loses credibility every time they're shown to be liar.

At best Ford is knowingly letting herself be used as a weapon against a man she isn't sure about. At worst she is a slandering political hack.

Well, knowing he has a blind spot doesn't mean he doesn't have credibility. He has proven to be accurate and truthful in most other areas so I still trust him.

I think he just doesn't want to accuse people willy nilly

Oh, I do mean in this particualr area

Man I didn't get to watch all of it live. but just saw a clip of the polygraph part. She admits crying through the polygraph test. Doesn't being over emotional through a polygraph test invalidate it?

I don't know enough about Polygraphs..but aren't they inadmissible in court because they just aren't really all that accurate?

I was just pointing out that it almost definitely gave even worse results if she was crying while giving the test

Polygraphs prove nothing except for heart rate

By the way, Tim saying I know because her behavior. She's a psychology professor she might be capable of faking the behavior. And that was Tim's only "evidence". I don't have twitter or post on social media, but I didn't appreciate him saying that people who think she might be a sham are shit. Lindsey Graham pointed out that Feinstein office was recommending a lawyer to Ford before august 20 when he met with Feinstein meaning Ford was prepping about a month before they revealed the allegation. Ford could have declined to be involved or voiced her lack of confidence in it being Kavanaugh but chose to at that time go in on the political stunt before she got coaching as Tim speculates. Even if something real happened to Ford at some point, most evidence points to her being a political operative in this instance. This is where Tim blind spot is revealed.
Does anyone know any good reporters for these sexual assault cases? This seems to be an area that's a real blind spot for a lot of people covering the news (not just Tim). Shapiro is pretty bad on this as well, Philly eat a D isn't great either, and a lot of others don't cover it (I don't blame them).

Can pls ask someone Ben if he is a Siscon?

He said a couple of times that his sister was the one who introduced his wife to him....

The thing to remember with Tim's stance is that, unless you can find the info to say "there is no way she could have been in that area during that time and she knows it", it's hard to prove she is actually lying. However, for him to actually declare she is lying opens him up to slander.

There is also the fact that someone, with a very similar style story may be discouraged if the default response they all see on the news is "clearly women who have blocked out memories are just lying for some kind of gains or revenge". The easiest way for Tim to avoid all these pitfalls is to simply say "whoever assaulted her wasn't Kav, and the Dems clearly have been using this for political gains at her experense"

Declaring her guilty without evidence is no better than declaring Kav guilty without evidence. And unfortunately, the beauty of her allegation is that it is very hard to prove she lied. And if you really want to prove she had ill intent, follow the money. Her attorney is working for free, so follow that go fund me money.

And tim fucks rabbits

See its not Tim’s job to prove he’s not a rabbit rapist

Its my job to show he’s a bunny fucker

If i cant then I should not be belived

but you might not be lying

you may very well have seen him fuck a rabbit.

but didn't take a video or a pitcutr

You are right so we should stop watching tim because of the allegation

Btw I saw you fucking the rabbit too

Grenade is correct

My problem is with tim saying she's honest, she's not. He could just say her claims are not credible.

Because she wasn't proven a liar in her accusations.

Perjury is a crime.

perjury is hard to prove

Innocent until proven guilty is in effect though

are the media and dems treating him like he's innocent?

And so we do to others what we don't want done to us?

It's apparent and provable that the left is playing a political game with the accusation

Die with principles huh?

We can accuse them, but to difinitively state that she is lying on all counts, that nothing ever happened to her

That's Bullshit.

I want the burden of proof to be held above my claims and everyone else’s I dont believe shit unless i have evidence and anyone who does believes without evidence is a twat

Don't need to say she's lying. just that the claims have no credibility

the "claims"

Well why did you rape me

Why

I'm pretty sure Tim's said that much.

Tims saying shes honest = telling truth