Yeah petty theft and minor assault or whatever would be better.

“ How Trump and the Nazis stoke Christmas to promote white nationalism” by Cristina Maza

This article compares Trump to literal Nazis for promoting people saying merry Christmas.

http://archive.today/wYtfq

Grasping at straws

"Christmas is now white nationalism"

@Timcast can't find an exact mirror, but type 'hot water challenge' in youtube and it's easy to pick the fakes.
Link to a report below

https://youtu.be/ofWz5hSzi70

https://youtu.be/swgP2yBwqcw

Skip to 1:05
https://youtu.be/a0gSHUKHN0I

should I make and sell unironic antifa shirts?

like a regular old antifa shirt, regular logo

I figure if they want to buy em I can make a profit

How bout AntiCommunist Shirts?

can I make DSA shirts too to make a profit?

Nah i think ironic stuff is better

aaaaand those

Probably can

Abolish profit shirts

I love how the commies buy shirts

hell they sell them

not good communism imo

im guna make unironic antifa shirts then run ads on facebook targeting commies

pffft

I wish there was easy way to ironize the fact that most of the antifa are midle class kids larping

amazing

they are

ive met one

man that was wild

nobody got hurt btw

met him just after the Berkley Riot

over Milo

Ray gun probably made best ironic portreyal of them with his song

true

that vid was gr8

maybe I can make ironic antifa shirts and market them to commies

then get them all to accidentally wear shirts mocking themselves

tbh some of them are dense enough they might not see the irony

I'll buy one for sure lol

Yeah but that wouldent work over the Internet

yea it would if they just see an FB ad and buy it

Fb could work

gotta be subtle about it

Thats true

And if they say the like the shirt in public you'll know they are a supporter of antifa and who doesn't want to know who is in antifa

Are ppl buying your merch atm tim ?

or just prove their lack of self awareness

True true

had to explain that Milo being a Gay Jewish dude married to a black man didnt make him a nazi to the one i knew and he couldnt wrap it around his head

I gave him this though, Milo could be a fascist but cannot be a Nazi

I dislike this reasoning

He can be nazi

His background does not imunize him

I dont think his is fascist but it would be more accurate to identify him as a fascist than a nazi

people are buying

how so?

Ive sold like 100$ since I started

nice

so like 1000$ in profit

but most was the first day wehn i announced it

now Im getting like 5$ per day from it

Thats not bad

I had a buddy tell me in public while having a discussion that I don't have the right opinions and because of that I need to quiet down because he goes to a super left college

fuck em

Ask him to explain why you are wrong

yea

His reasoning was

Ready

its interesting how the pro-censorship people dont realize how it could backfire on them, kinda like what Dankula said at Day of Freedom

Not it could

It will

shoot

Aways

oh def

it does already in some regards

Ppl in power will abuse any ability to control narative

I dont have the right to talk about certain topics because I am a white Male who doesn't have the ability to comprehend what they go through

😁

That does not sound very convincing to me

You could turn it around

ah the white male privilege arguement

Where they white?

Yup

And say he cant tolk about your whitenes either then

Whitter than me

And my last name is Portuguese

Well then youre playing the same game

pffft why is that not suprising

Best rebutal is look into your family tree

You have more oppression points it seems

use it lol

And find any "non white ancestor'

And then you can say whataver

Ideally though its better to avoid identity politics all together

Yes, I think a better approach is ask why skin color even matter in an argument. What racial inferences is the other person making?

Well i find all this white privilege stuff offensive

Point out that if you cant talk about it than how can people work together to find solutions if they are tribalizing

He is one of these "we need to shut down free speech because hate speech is allowed under free speech" types

For example we slavs are white

And not privilidged

only privilege I'm inclined to believe in is Class privilege but in the sense that each class gets different privileges that some others may not

Well i believe in national privilege

yikes hate speech is violent guy?

i can see that

Ie it matters where you are born

But its very relative

I think everyone has many privileges; the number is infinite. Like I dont have tall priviledge, so I cant play pro basketball.

Your nationality grants you privileges you might not get in other countries

Oh we got a dave Rubin fan

You can though, just got to do more for it

I feel privileged to be born in europe

*high five*

More like JP?

who?

Jordan Peterson

Wasnt that dave who said that?

not the JP i mean who are you saying is a fan?

Oh Vibrant because he used a statement that I've heard dave Rubin say

The

infinite thing?

Gotcha, fan of both actually

Nope the basketball privilege

And same

Huge fan of botj

Ive got my criticisms of both but largely like them

Oh, lol I gotcha, He loved basketball

loves

Yes, overall I think they are both doing more good

But on priviledge, why do you think the left is so uptight about it?

its the new class conflict

identity politics in general is

Its a way to get votes

Honestly how I feel

eeeeh it only gets you so far

Which is why a red wave is here

in my campaign experience id say when the candidate i worked for used it he shut out the voters who would have gotten him the win

And the dems are collapsing

@Lagomaster24 I'm not saying it's a smart way to win :p

Yea im trying to network with moderate Dems and maaaaaybe push for a new party

yea lol its not

Yeah?

Do you think the new Dem party will be socialist democrats?

No

Unless

idk tbh i think they will largely maintain the status qou

More Cortez like people are brought on and win campaigns

but generally be more left than usual

A ton of people supported Sanders; albeit all 20 year olds

See i dont mind other parties, i encourage it, doesnt mean i have to agree with their platforms

I liked Sanders although he was very idealistic

Im more pissed at the DNC for rigging the Primaries

whether he would have won or not doesnt matter

Yes, but I think people saw him as a direction our country should lead

that shits corrupt af

Dude

I have a selfie with Bernie and my gf

I think we need new blood

I stood behind him for his televised rally here in my state

lol

And then I became red pulled

The craziness of todays politics has made me MORE moderate lol

You muricans have it tough tbh

tbh we have it really well

we just take it for granted

You are faced with 2 bad options

truuu

We do @Lagomaster24

I would not vote last election

When it became hilary or trump

It was bad or bad

We need good individual candidates that really only use the parties as a platform to speak from

I voted Gary

Gary was goofball

hell if we'd just listened to George Washington we wouldnt have parties and we'd be voting on the person

And jill stein is said to be insane

hate to say it but voted shillary

it felt gross

but better option in my opinion at the time

I dont blame you lol

Oh no

Uou did what

There is lots of reasons to not vote trump or Hilary

Voted Gary. Was more hoping that a rise in third party votes would be a warning to the parties

@Nine my thoughts exactly

Harambe shoulda won kek

iirc third party votes did see an increase from the average as did turnout

which made me happy

Getting closer to that damn 5%

although all the partisans were like "oooh itll split the vote" blah blah blah

It's our fault Trump won

Blame game political media the last two years made me hate politicians/pundits more than I did before

Ive gotten in consistent debates about the first past the post system in regards to viable third party options

he says we cant do it

i just point out other countries with the same system that DO

Really? Which ones?

UK

i think France

They have constiently had 2 parties, then a 3rd rose?

Historically, it seems that one party gets replaced. It feels about time for it to happen again

Canada

I see

etc

thing is while most end up with only two in power the variations/combnations of parties change

Paradigm Shift is practically already here

so yea new party might be what it takes the form of

Like how the left is becoming more socialist, in some ways, and the right is becoming more socially liberal

some

they still have tea partiers in the Repubs

I always thought we should have a Republican and a dem together so pres is a Republican and the vice is a dem and same for the reverse

We USED to do that

Didn't work for that first dual party election

early American history

No shit

I had no idea

lol

Why did we get rid of it?

Adams and Jefferson didn't do well together

Just evolution of politics?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-past-the-post_voting#List_of_current_FPTP_countries

nah they hated eachother lol

Oh lol

They werent the only ones iirc though

that used that method that is

*Hamilton*

What does iirc mean?

if i remember correctly

Ok thanks

sorry im used to people knowing it lol

New speak is just so difficult sometimes lol

most recent example may have been schwarzenegger

of that method

eh, this discord format makes it easy to ask to clear things up

or maybe it was just that his wife was of the opposite party i dont remember

yep

First discord I've been in that is like this in a while

it threw me off for awhile too tbh

I just want to go home

?

i used to think lmao was spelled with an i and as such i didnt know what it could possibly have meant

I've got a bad case of the fridays

friday fever

There's a reason that I set up my blood donation days on Fridays

Hahah

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-turkey-security/turkey-to-dismiss-people-from-many-institutions-pm-quoted-idUSKBN1JW2LC hmmmmmm

wish i could do those but i pass the fuck out so nah

"President Tayyip Erdogan, who won another five-year term in a June 24 election and also gained sweeping new powers under a constitutional overhaul, has promised not to renew the state of emergency after its expiry on July 18."

I actually donate platelets. It's the easiest way to get myself to focus on movies I ought see

i did my POSC final on Turkey potentially joining the EU before i started to hate the EU and i cannot stand Erdogan

neat

Turkey is just in a weird place in the history of politics

https://www.ft.com/content/512ae196-8132-11e8-bc55-50daf11b720d I wonder if this would be of interest to Tim?

Its politics has always been crazy