a 1911 is the gold standard of handguns

its steel and a 45 but it feels like a bb gun

Get the Trump .45

To be honest, most handguns are pricey. But the 1911? Heard its damn reliable

it fires a bigger bullet then a glock but has less recoil

ive seen and no joke here

a tank run over a 1911

racked and fired

.45 acp right?

of courxse

I am not familiar with calibers

it was during a recreation groups day when they were messing with alot of shit

and they were testing ww2 myths

I was debating modifying it to fit .50 as a joke

http://ww1.prweb.com/prfiles/2017/11/26/14952154/Cabot%20Guns%20Trump%2045-2b.jpg

one was that a 1911 could be run over by a tank and fire

JOHN MOSES BROWNING DID NOT MAKE A 50 ACP

shhhhhh

you goto your room and think about that mister

im in my room

Well............shit.

what about the double 1911?

Hes disabled man

you can buy a custom one thats modified to take handgun .50 ammo though

.5 what again?

Like 9mm parabelum. .5 what?

its what a SW 500 fires

https://i.imgur.com/P3MVgWY.gif

..5 s&w

?

ok

caliber is a messurement of the bullets width

1.0 is one inch

.50 is half an inch

that should help

9 mil is normally a .38

I kinda like the names of the different ammo types.

Also easier to pretend to be knowledgeable about.

well alot of people dont realize diffent names mean things

for example, an m16a2 and an m16a4

can not use the same ammo

But I swear I go mad when I hear someone refer to them as shotgun bullets.

yes they have the same caliber yes they have the same model function

but they also have diffrent types of powder and are designed for diffrent pressures

a 2.23 and a 5.56 are to the naked eye the same, but they have entirely diffrent burn and pressure loads

the width, shape, and make up of the bullet effect alot

also brass bullets are magical

I though 2.23 was a different type of .22

.223 ffs

lol woops

your right thank you

^ thats why

thats a my bad

Ammo types, not even once

Well not types

.223 and .22 arent far off I though they were similar

Like its not just diameter and length

The charge matters too

off by 4 thousandths

the diffrence is often in the shells shape as well

.223 remington/5.56x45 fire a .224" dia projectile

a magnum shell casing makes a smaller bullet insanely more powerful

.22(lr) shoots a .22" dia projectile

So, you gotta take into acount the shell casing, the powder, the TYPE of powder, and the bullet into a factor.

well I just accidently made like 20$ off bitcoin

.223 is an intermediate rifle cartridge, not a 'magnum' cartridge

Also, assuming you could get any guns but all must be from the same company, what company would you go for?

Just a random question

armalite

Springfield armory.

^

Huh, was gonna say springfield as qell.

because then I could get .223 wylde, .338 lap, .300 winmag and .50bmg

look up the civilian marksmanship program

They did the m1 seriers right?

appleseed

and omfg .50 buewolf is sexy

my second choice would be sig

50 beowulf*

I kinda like herstal

but sig doesn't have anything I would define as a precision rifle

the 50 beowulf is like the nightmere of the left

i swear it is

.50BE isn't good enough for me

But mostly for the five seven and the project90

.458 socom ftw

ohhh

Yeah thats nice, honestly im a shotgun guy

Didnt realise they did the scar as well.

once youve seen what a shotgun slug can do...

.458 has such a wonderful bullet selection

those other rifles just feel...weak

shotgun slugs aren't accurate out to 250 😛

yeah but if you hit something with a slug even if it has a vest

it is DOWN

> if

lol

the main problem with many of those new rounds the .458 and .50be is they can be hard to find localy

mofo im not expecting a 100 yard engagement

I reload everything

Are slugs accurate in general?

omg yes

Also arnt they also heavy?

some are good no problem out to 100

aim up more....

I mean when carrying

But yeah most slugs if you get good ones

but they drop significantly and then start to tumble significantly after about 100 as they go transonic

oh

lol

yes

I know physics

But in contrast its a meat per round ratio

you dont need to carry alot of shells

it's only like around an oz and a half for fully loaded 3"-ers

ain't that much

Not at all, the shotgun will be noticed more then the shell

and most shells easly fit onto vests

or can be pocketed easly

I could never speedload a shotty

my best time was half a second on a double barrel

A breakaction or a pumpaction?

I could never do it again in my life

break.

I meant monts

pump or semi

or even a levergun

Double barrle of course break

they make speedloaders for tube fed shotguns

Huh, didnt know those were a thing

give me mags

I mean I was surprised when I learnt of mag fed shotguns

not to many magazine fed shotguns out there on the market

if I was going to go for a shotty I'd probably get a saiga12

The again, semi auto shotguns are banned last I heard

Da is mostly very ok shotgun for using.

banned?

...what?

not here in AMERICA

Ah good, putting it on list of firearms I wish I could get if I were american.

become america

We accept people

......unless your form one of the nations man-emperor trump mentioned...

it's a retarded system currently; but there is a chance

They might be banned here, actually, I'm not sure. I think most automatic firearms are banned?

Nah, waiting on somone to reply back,about a possible position.

automatic != semiautomatic

Was talking semi auto shotgun

In general

Hey its still way way easier to use a semi then an auto

I know, I just added that, hence why it got it's own sentence.

hell the military flips their guns to semi most of the time for a reason

I mean the recoil on that

oh

Must be insane

Eh, not really a shotguns a shotgun

its not significantly worse, the main issue you run into is how heavy is the shotgun itself

automatic's really only needed for suppression fire

Hmm fair point

heavier the gun less the recoil

heavier the gun most difficult aiming

want a shotgun lol @GingaBomber google the punt gun sometime

cannons

Not legal here anyway

Actually, it probably is

I dunno if there's a distinct caliber limit for where you are

a puntgun? yeah their legal

but most of the puntguns are muzzle loaded

which is typically ignored by most laws

This isnt america here unfortunately

most nations

Well, wonder how hard is it to stamp one together anyway. Ammo is a bitch to aquire.

stamp a punt gun?

lol

again...

A gun

shotguns are hillariously primative

A normal one should have mentioned

all you need is a tube, powder, little balls, and somethign to ignite the powder

do you mean legal stamp or physically stamp a receiver flat?

yes

nothing wrong with using and owning a muzzle loaded shotgun

muzzle loaders are good fun

my uncle owns a legit blunderbust when we goto the firing range

Well aint gonna be legal here.

its like were stars

everyone stoped what they were doing to watch us XD

they operate at low enough pressure that it's neigh impossible to kill yourself

one time we used screws

I think iraqveteran8888 filled a muzzleloader barrel completely with powder

yeah

and that's the only point that it finally banana peeled

it warped the barrel but didnt do much else\

no he did it with modern smokeless

oh

not black powder

OH

Yeah

I remember now

if it was full with black powder it would have made the barrel glow but thats about it

they went behind some truck or some shit and crap flew back at em'

honestly, black powder for all its flaws is alot of fun to use

too much smoke

its also alot more exciting becuase of the delay

but it is fun

ineffective but fun

it's effective if you have the right cartridge or something uncompressable

it's also super easy to make

sulfur, charcoal and potassium nitrate

yeah he was a carpenter his entire life

jesus?

so we just made a blunderbust outof pips and wood

my uncle

oh

pipes*

it was stupid easy to make

well for him XD

But yeah gunpowder is easy to make

whats also insteasting is all the new air pelet guns on the market right now

yes

I was thinking of buying a new one

one of the .45's

the suppressed ones

https://www.pyramydair.com/s/m/AirForce_TexanSS_Big_Bore_Air_Rifle/4317/8338

But I just bought a .338 sako

so

...I kinda need to keep my monies

can't buy everything I fancy

I had to live in the worst possible area for housing probably on the planet

my problem is i play warhammer tabletop

ironicly i spend about the same on it as i would firearms

lol

I never grasped that shit

I just picked up a new tank model too!

mtg/wh40k

just does not appeal to me

to each their own

I'd rather buy more weights

and more guns

and more other equipment

I'm running low on space so I need more disks too

2018-01-13 18:02:31.569261 mon.0 [INF] pgmap v75990450: 3840 pgs: 3840 active+clean; 17807 GB data, 51423 GB used, 30320 GB / 81743 GB avail; 212 kB/s wr, 29 op/s

what you need to do then is clear

make more money?

you buy heavy as fuck guns and use THEM as weights

unsafe

lol

Whats considered heavy for a gun?

depends

I would say anything > 10lbs is heavy