The ones with Colberts face warped

Yeah I've seen some of those

That faggot jumped on a bed saying peepee tapes non stop

I remember a time when Colbert had good writers and a good schtick for his show

Meanwhile John Stewart is nearly becoming redpilled by sheer comparison. The notion that the dems should just get their shit together and beat Trump in an election is now basically a radical one

DUde, they are basically saying that the only way to beat trump is to be more radicalized

Most of the US dont want to abolish ICE or implement socialism

I know

They refuse to get their shit together

More like, they think they are getting their shit together

They feel like it

This is getting their shit together to them

No I think this is ego election 2.0

They think they're owed a win

no they don't think they are being more radical or getting it together, they just think everyone else is getting crazy

And to be fair to them, establishment republicans acted the same way

And they got slapped around by Trump as a result

Everyone but me is crazy

If everywhere you go smells like shit, check the bottom of your shoes

But yeah I think the dems are gonna lose hard, and my concern is that they'll radicalize further

Which will be the end of them

A lot of the political frustration on the right has been let out with that hatefuck of an election and this presidency

Which is good. That's what I had hoped for. But now the left is going batshit

I dunno about that either though

Polarization is one hell of a drug

A lot of modern lefties tend towards echo chambers, so they're only going to become more solidified over time

Like there's a reason why you're getting commie squads roaming around

doesn't help that most media are in their echo chamber

Yup

And you have to remember that a lot of left leaning moderates are hearing this too

And so a portion of them are going to stay out entirely or join up

Instead of pushing back

Theyll do what happened during 2016

Quietly keep their opinions to themselves, then go out and vote

seeing the few reasonable people within the democrats trying to fix their party getting shit for it, i don't have high hope of Dems improving anytime soon

I think dems losing really depends on who they run in 2020. if they double down with a socialist, they'll lose for sure. if they pick a boring establishment hillary clone, maybe there will be enough moderates and "default left" who will swing it away from trump.

idk about that, if you entertain the idea of trying to find out why moderates voted for Trump you are basically nazi

(to get them vote for Dems in 2020)

If you wanna talk about popular opinion, majority vote does count though, and Shillary did get more total votes

the people who voted Trump for any reason or didn't vote Hillary are dead to those people

She just didn't win electoral seats

wasn't that very narrow win ?

It was like 3mil more or something

Not huge % wise but still a lot of people

I have a feeling the old guard within the party will see that it was a relatively close loss and say "let's try again the same way we always do"

I'm curious as to what that would look like on round 2

Maybe if Hillary lives we'll see for sure

If they can preserve her long enough

sure, big number in that way, but same could be say in electoral votes

Again, we're talking about a political faction becoming radicalized

Wherein electoral seats don't mean much and 3 million people is a lot

tbh your whole system needs overhaul..it's dum dum

It's not my system

I rather like the republic system

I'm a filthy Canuck

ah sorry, I just assumed your nationality

im bigot..

Id rather have the districts fixed to stop gerrymandering

What a shitlord

Mostly becuase the system allows the whole country a say

Otherwise america would literally be the city dwellers dictating law to the rest of the country

no it wouldn't .. there are systems better than that

Like?

hold up

Regional representation is a pretty good way of solving the problem

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mixed-member_proportional_representation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QT0I-sdoSXU
Think this one would be better for burgerland

I really dont see how it would be

Because theres no way to grant seats other than by population

In illinois for example, more people live in chicago than the rest of the state

that system is basically a simplified version of how it is done in germany

and yes, it is far superior to the american system

because every vote counts

even the vote of a republican in california means something

Im aware, but im concerned how the representatives will be divided up

Especially with the rise of the new political parties that will come out of this system

by vote count?

By precentage

What happens when its part of a percent of a seat?

The senate has only 100 people in it

2 for each state

When you get multiple parties that have less than 50% of the vote who gets the seat?

okay... how it is roughly done in germany: the parties get their seats based on their voting percentage (you get 30% of the votes, you get 30% of the seats)

these seats get filled with the candidates that won their district

In Canada you get members of parliament per riding, so when you have the inevitable minority you have to barter with another party for a coalition

But I think the issue with the US is that the population is super unevenly distributed. Where like 4 cities would decide the course of the country if you did seats by % of votes

after that it gets filled up to roughly meet the initial percentage (really complicated math is used there, so i'm not going to try and explain it... but the end result is roughly 1% of votes equals 1% of seats)

sure, might need adjustments for the us - but the current system in the us is just stupid 😛

Current system in the US has worked well in not allowing our city dwelling population to overrun what they refer to as flyover states

in terms of representation at least

i did not say that it was always stupid 😉

from the perspective of when it was implemented it makes sense

the main problem i have with it is that it suppresses the votes of people in non-swing-states

which means that you traded "4 cities decide" for "florida decides" 😉

I have more faith in the state of florida to pick a leader than I do 4 cities

But thats the presidental election

this is normal legislative elections as far as i can tell

hey, if you want to live in two party system that is so great as we can see, be my guest 👌

you have faith in "florida man"? 😄

do you not?

hes the best superhero