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Everything about it on both sides was hyper-partisan and disgusting
how is FBI not doing its job a partisan thing though? <:TimThink:482277772497125378>
not LITERALLY everything
come on now
i misunderstood your statement then 😛 sorry
If you look at prior SCOTUS confirmation votes the GOP didn't put up much fight against Dem nominees at all.
i thought you meant that the FBI not doing its job properly was a partisan thing
but yeah they are doing a poor job,
It should just be "Is there evidence? No, then its he-said, she-said, we can't judge that, so case closed"
I'm not even thinking about the specifics of Ford's testimony vs Kavanaugh's testimony
that's not the responsibility of the FBI!!!!!!!
I think that classified FBI report sent to the Senate on Tuesday was mostly an investigation of the smear campaign.
the FBI background checks do not reach conclusion, they inform the senate for them to reach a conclusion
I wonder how long an actual non-criminal investigation would have taken with proper heads up
You know, like in July.
short of time-travel,
Its near-impossible to go back 35 years and finding evidence for an initial investigation
When Ford first came forward to Senator Feinstein
a criminal investigation would have not been done by the fbi. for that ford must go to local police.
instead of less than 2 weeks from the hearing
Throwing pisss on people is not very nice.
It got ridiculous watching the Senate Dems plead for an investigation while Ford and Kavanaugh were sitting right there in front of them, under oath.
Really makes you think why they didn't plead for an investigation when the accusations were first made public <:TimThink:482277772497125378>
And why the first thing they demanded was a hearing <:TimThink:482277772497125378>
And why they kept delaying the hearing <:TimThink:482277772497125378>
because theres nothing, this is their desperate attempt to make a "last second delay" in the hopes originally to extend it past the mid-terms
They were holding it in order to drop a media bombshell after the committee hearings were over.
hoping they'd win, and be able to fully block it
And why they waited until the hearing to ask for an investigation <:TimThink:482277772497125378>
All this rhetoric is tiring to be honest
its just an excuse to filibuster
because thats not allowed anymore
Yeah, procedural obstruction.
The real sad part about this is that the dems may actually have a valid point about Kavanaugh's temperament, but it's list among all the ridiculous nonsense they tried to peddle
temperament, have you seen Maxine waters?
I'm so happy that I'm finally seeing definitive victories at things.
And not a constant string of theoretical things to hope for.
The only thing seperating waters and hitler is she's not in power
"This is a sign that americans really want.." etc etc.
Well Kavanaugh's nomination isn't a sure thing
The Dems were better off keeping things honest and making it all about muh abortion.
the motion to invoke cloture was 51-49
when is the vote starting?
in 1:40 hours?
probably 3 EDT
so in 40 mins?
seems like it
I’m hearing it will be 50-48.
LoL Mormon feminists https://twitter.com/rachelsteenblik/status/1048627377767559169
I don't think ANYONE will be abstaining from this vote
Rare photo of Pence entering the doubledoors to tiebreak.
their entire career could depend on it
Two votes are getting canceled out.
daines will not vote, but the alaskan senator who voted against kavanaugh, will vote yes
How silly must that woman feel.
so daines gets his vote instead of her
"Oh a democrat flipped? FUCK"
murkowski said she'll vote 'present'
"WHY DID I DO THIS THEN"
Maybe the atheists should use feminists to infiltrate organized religion and rot it from the inside out.
I'm surprised that some of the red-state Dems up in 2018 wouldn't try to thread the needle by voting Present.
So Daines is absent and Murkowski is covering him by not voting 'no'.
I'm impressed if even one democrat can vote like an individual and not a party puppet
Daines is such a twit for skipping this vote.
The only plausible backstab (without extra-legal fuckery) would be if Flake flakes and Murkowski votes 'no'.
I'm not 100% on Kavanaugh anymore tbh. What with that of "LUL this is the work of the Clintons" from his opening statement
You're entitled to be wrong.
How dare he react to the most vicious smearjob since Clarence Thomas, eh?
he didn't say it's the work of the clintons
"revenge on behalf of the clintons"
he said it's revenge on behalf of the clintons
very different thing
It's the work of the very same Dem machine that produced the Steele dossier.
but the point is the same. Despite how right he is to be angry, the degree to which he became emotional was a little troubling
Revenge on behalf of the Clintons is clearly involved at some level, it's more a matter whether they were involved with manufacturing the claims or merely promoting them.
The voting is about to begin
Though naming outside parties does put him in a bit of a bind, because it means that he'll probably have to recuse in the future
well, that Kavanaugh is now surely biased against Democrats, is totally their fault.
Scoob, you're behaving like a smuggie at this point.
like a what
oh those things have a name
MSNBC ran a headline the other day along the lines of "Is Brett Kavanaugh too damaged from the nomination proceedings to make a competent jurist?"
Which raises a big question: is it permissible for the fact that somebody was damaged by being put under so much unfair pressure during a nomination proceeding to affect their eligibility for the seat they were nominated for?
pls @ me when it's about to happen, i'll be playing NieR
Supreme Court Justices are supposed to be the most well-tempered people in the entire country, not able to be emotionally manipulated or angered to the point Kavanaugh was. They are supposed to be level-headed and impartial, no matter how partisan something may be.
I'm NOT saying he's unfit to be a Supreme Court Justice
it presents a slippery slope where it seems it is possible to, if you have a sufficiently-loyal partisan base, take almost anyone out of the running by a cavalcade of mere allegations.
As credible as Blasey-Ford was, she needed evidence regardless. Ramirez shot herself in the foot by asking if it was him. Swetnick was a goof with an outlandish story. Kavanaugh shouldn’t have gone all Q-Anon and gone Clinton conspiracy theorist.
but he's not perfect
lost my shit at https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/412/103/554.jpg
I don't like his decisions, and I think he has baggage.
Speaking of dowg.
My puppy brought in the newspaper in this morning.
Most wholesome shit I've ever seen.
But honestly, his predecessor was not much different
so if we need a somewhat unfair neocon justice to balance a somewhat unfair neolib justice
then it is not the most insane thing.
Fuck all you people not acknowledgin' my dowg
A plague on your bloodlines
now, it would be nice to have a court of nine fair justices
but if wishes were horses, I know what we'd be having for dinner.
Somebody find me eight more people with anywhere near the integrity of Neil Gorsuch, and I will gladly support their nominations.
Good luck with that. SCOTUS isn't going to be fixed until long after the legislature is fixed, which is probably not going to happen ever.
Tim should livestream the senate and make some comments 😃
Netflix put on Black Dynamite.
Protestors managed to get into the chamber.
I think it was because I watched Blade.
Never saw Blade before.
Why, Black Dynamite, WHY??
Pretty good, I liked it.
I saw Blade a bootleg cd
man I always forget how shit canadian netflix is
I saw Blade
until I see that american selection
No one sees Blade Runner.
Everyone sees the first 30 minutes of Blade Runner and then starts falling asleep.
but it's the last 30 minutes that are the good part
It's a tragedy how boring that movie is, when it revolutionized set design.
they better not
it's actually a really neat messy take on DADoES
Also why the fuck is it called Blade Runner.
What is with that name.
Blade is a pretty good non-MCU Marvel film.
by people who hated the book lol
Blade Runner describes nothing you see anywhere.
look at the movie promo posters
he's running on a blade
"In 2019 Los Angeles, former police officer Rick Deckard is detained by officer Gaff, and brought to his former supervisor, Bryant. Deckard, whose job as a "blade runner" was to track down bioengineered beings known as replicants and "retire" (kill) them" It's just the "cool name" they give to the job
I always hated this.
When movies would say "is" the movie title
He's not THE blade runner
He is blade runner.
Fuck that sentence in the mouth.
my livestream is sperging out
does anyone believe this coming out of JBP?
Everyone fucks up sometime.
what is he even referring to
Maybe he's on the coke again.
Surly he knows what he is saying is bollocks and wishfull thinking.
nah I could see him taking that position
Is he part French? Explains the willingness to surrender.
Ford failed to get him on the SCOTUS
so she's done
Jordan needs a smacking on the face by Churchill through time.
Well Ford didn't want any of this to be public anyway
"Clean your noggin, bucko"
I think he makes the mistake of thinking that the accusations are solely attached to his potential position
and not to the fact that he was even considered
It's doubtful any criminal charges could be brought up
If the United State Senate thinks you're a gang rapist, your career as a federal judge is basically over.
not just from lack of corroborating evidence, but because the statue of limitations probably applies
no but they would clearly keep up social pressure, and not relinquish that
@Orteid Thats kind of the point. There isn't even enough evidence to have an investigation so his name will never be clean.
There's not even enough evidence for probable cause. Can't even get a warrant or convene a grand jury.
I'm saying there wouldn't be much point bringing up any kind of charges or civil suit
No limitations. It happened to a minor.
I can't believe this many people are willing to play ball with this CHILD SCREAMING FOR A COOKIE that is the democratic party.
not even enough for preponderance
The fact that we treat their garbage with so much official channel.
I think that was the big mistake yeah
The first person to announce this should've been slapped firmly across the face
"I'm giving you a second chance. What did you just say?"
@Poppy Rider even if they were minors, limitations apply unless it was a federal offense
honestly less even it being "official" moreso it becoming a giant sideshow
in Maryland at least
we look at the potential results matrix and this was the wrong thing to do
I was just reminiscing about our friend Neil Gorsuch, and I found this video from Sen. Whitehouse's own YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gx4Ck38wMFc
In which Sen. Whitehouse fails to recognize the distinction between where expressive uses of money, such as political contributions, can be seen to affect politics, and where matters where the government can be seen to have infringed on rights of free expression when it imposes disclosure requirements on otherwise-private expressions, including those inherent in the transfer of funds.
Frankly I think it makes Sen. Whitehouse look a bit thick.
and not in a good way ;- )
not as bad as this made him look <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jw0JsGSnSFE>
For what it's worth, it's kinda all they had
He could just yield his time, but that would probably not look good to his constituents.
It's not like he had anything else to go on.
Did Senator Whitehouse *just so happen* to run unopposed in his most recent elections?
can't imagine there aren't any better options for the people he represents
nobody cares about which senators are produced by RI
With all respect due to Rhode Island
Whitehouse should follow his constituency and roundhouse kick the people he doesn't like
God I hope the red wave is comin'
You only get competitive races when federal parties think that it's worth competing in your state.
this is so fuckin' good
that did happen in RI, right?
Voting should be do-able online.
People are fucking busy.
what am I thinking of then
Something else happened in RI
i will figure this out later
@Orteid During the time Ford alleges it happened, the applicable Maryland SOL even for felony grade sex crimes was only 1 year
@King Canuck Cool track, vocalist is like a more refined, less bluesy Robert Plant
The oldest of them is like, 27
oh we into Greta Van Fleet now?
the three of them are brothers, durmmer's a friend
To me they sound like a fuse of zeppelin, Rush, and a few other tones of that aera
"The Deranged DEMOFASCIOPATHS are desperate!"
lol Youtube comments are great sometimes
there's a little bit of GnR in there too
Neverending Story on Netflix, goddamn. O:
Big on rush and zeppelin, never expected to hear a rock (just rock) tune I actually liked from this decade.
they're brand new
I've seen lots of "NEVER DATE A LIBERAL" in the live chat
like, first album was 2017
they're from frankemuth, michigan
Liberals are overly passionate.
but they are sincere
And overt passion is fine when it loves you, but when it hates you, it's ridiculous.
here's their album
To be honest, you have to balance that shit
for the most part