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The crash of the dollar isn't a nuclear explosion.
I'm supposed to feel silly about my own points, because Rye would like to argue we're fucked either way.
>everything is automatic
>no human labor
>socialism will finally work
>the dollar will fail
>we should die
Our dollar is valued based off of labor. That's what was being missed
That's what a fiat currency is.
if a machine replaces a janitor, then that janitor just doe something else that is now in demand.
Don't you know money is evil
Unless there is no demand for his skills
Because robots do most of the labor
```then that janitor just doe something else that is now in demand.``` This is the part that's faulty.
This doesn't happen so much anymore.
Less and less of it will.
Scribble, I'm not going to deny that you aren't doing work. It's more that nobody seems to find your work worth anything.
well his skills have to change to meet the demand, not the other way around
When the car replaced the horse, the car didn't also replace the DRIVER.
This time, the car replaces the driver.
now, if that isn't possible, that's a concern.
It's vastly different from anything we've dealt with before.
however, we are far from that.
for most of the population.
Not far enough away that we can handwave it
(And this isn't literally about self-driving cars, don't be a moron.)
sure, probably hundred or more years away
... And I quote
```(And this isn't literally about self-driving cars, don't be a moron.)```
As a driver, self driving cars are a concern.
Then now is the time to do something about it
Wow I type the shit and... It's like I didn't type the shit.
What a wonderland.
100 years from now whatever youve dont today will have consequences beyond comprehension
It's actually a good example though
not for us
yes for you
markets shift and change. no job stays for infinity without change. People adapt or die.
nope, i won't be alive in 100 years
What sort of jobs do teenagers use to get into the job market these days? And 5 years from now?
They're not just creating a market for automated cars
school, oh you said jobs...school.
A stone pushed down a hill doesnt lose its momentum if the pusher dies
Automated fast food kiosks. That's not YOUR problem exactly, but you live in a society with many people whose problem it IS
They're creating automated freight trucks.
Automated retail is a joke though
And automated taxis.
but the pusher isn'tworried about being crushed by it
cuz he is dead.
It's already here.
My mind was one way. Then Beemann spoke, and it was another.
The stores you can steal from ez?
Automated logistics are the next step in drone tech
Beemann, pay the fuck attention. Holy fuckaronie.
no, instead he is worried about the guy pointing a gun to his head, telling him to figure out a wya to stop the stone.
"If you don't agree you just don't understand"
I cant remember where ive heard that beeman
but i have heard that before
Yes, not everyone can or will order online. Their automated meatspace stores are memetech
"Yeah that exists but SO WHAT"
Every time you concede that, you've lost more ground than you thought.
I'm no corporatist, either, BTW.
Sure you are.
You told me my work wasn't real because I do it for free.
No, I told you it's not a job
"This is a problem"
"You admit it exists though I win"
It's a job. It just doesn't pay anything.
It's not sustainable
Oh, jobs have to be SUSTAINABLE
that's not how it works kid
Wow. Why doesn't anyone tell Walmart this?
if you are not getting food in exchange from your work, and your work is not making food, then it is not a job, it is a hobby
They can't just call their positions JOBS!
14/h starting wage
It's work, that nobody finds valuable. So you won't profit from it
I live on 7.75
From one job anyway
What was 14/h starting
CVS pharmacy pays decently well for having no requirements aside from the ability to count
That's Costco that went 14 I think
Oh right walmart just announced it went up to 11 bucks per hour
Costco gives a shit, not Walmart.
But let's not distract.
Your parameter for a job, is to be able to live off it.
Do you have any idea how many people are in uniforms, clocking in, to things that are not jobs.
By YOUR definition.
I mean, if you're building equity in a start-up
You're fighting your own point now, knucklehead.
Get to it.
"Only the the things *I* talk about matter"
Discipline is occurring.
Thats not a job, its an investment you make with your time instead of your money
No he's not. He fighting what you attempted ti redefine his point as.
And with that we're done.
Discipline is occurring.
Yes. Yes it is.
Jesus christ scribble
Brave Sir Robin ran away.
Bravely ran away away.
Congratulations on being the first person I ever blocked on Discord.
Because I no longer see any value in anything you say
You need to take a break scrib
that's weird, didn't we use to call an unpaid job slavery?
Now its an internship
They weren't specifying if they were getting any equity or not
"Get a job!!" = "Get paid more!!" when he says it.
They said they were working for free
an internship isn't a job though, it's a learning experience that you hope will lead to a job....or am i mistaken?
There's a difference.
But the second thing doesn't have that connotation of "You're lazy" which is what he really wants to say, but that's easier to squash infront of other people
They have you doing grunt level work at an internship
So, because he has this crowd, he uses "Get a job!" as this little tactic to zone the conversation where he likes it.
its basically an unpaid job
It's a cowardly move, and not one I'd use.
I was seriously about to concede a point for them
well you can work and it doesn't have to be a job.
Scrib you cant even recognize when someone was about to walk back a point
But then they had to have themselves a tantrum.
for example me taking out my trash isn;'t a job, but it is work.
if you scroll up and re-read youll find that rye initially assumed you chose to work for free
Rye, I'm afraid that's just too silly.
Max 2.0 over here?
I squashed your points and you ran.
as in you willingly chose to forgoe pay
Meh, I want to block them. But there is still that off chance they can say something intelligent.
Oh just fucking block me, you anus
Not without insulting you.
Authoritarians for ya
Then he realized that you were working as part of a startup company with the usual benefits associated as such
Naw. Now I won't solely because you want me to.
@RyeNorth are we in <#463068752725016579> , this seems like a repeat from yesterday
Which i assume are in the form of stock options or partial ownership or something
He thinks I give a shit what he actually does.
It's just the "I'm gonna do it!... OH I'LL DO IT!!"
DO IT OR DON'T
"I'M NOT GONNA DO IT"
Take some time away from discord
You see, I'm too lazy to make the actual effort to block you.
took more effort to type that didn't it?
This is clearly a personnel issue and it seems to be clouding your ability to be civil
It really did.
Oh I'm an evil and petulant spite-demon.
And I enjoy it.
idk, i think typing requires less effort than mouse movement
No one is saying that except you
No no. I admit it.
And embrace it.
less mass being moved, hands are heavy
Well technically, I'm on mobile
so theres no mass being moved at all
oh, then no excuse
assuming you can figure out how discord mobile works then
I excel at it. And my only regret is that I spent so much of my life NOT being this, because I've gotten to the truth of things far faster with it, than without it.
Spite is my diesel fuel.
Ahh, there it is
That you want my company's money for your art
Youve probably arrived at what you think is the truth but in reality its just a way for you to keep being mad at the world
To further justify your anger
perspective. Dunning-kruger effect. ...interesting. Do you really excel at it?
"I'm proud to act like a child on the internet"
I'll probably unblock him later.
Either that or this is a really dedicated test of the people on this server
A child isn't capable of this.
They don't have the patience to hold a branding iron in place for as long as I'm willing to.
The fuck is that analogy?
The one you're stuck with.
idk but it's got "anal" in the name so it's probably sinful
Does this mean that you're claiming a certain idea as your own or that you think were cattle that you have to controlled?
Unless you're talking about slavery of course
"And this, is a super tantrum even further beyond super tantrum"
It means it's a painful ordeal.
Involving hot metal.
What the hell is the hot metal in this situation?
See, Blackhawk is a better example of a child.
He's the beginning of a Rugrats episode.
Mishearing or taking something too literally
And going off on a pretend adventure about it.
You're throwing out metaphors
And then backing out of them
or things like metaphors.
Yes, and dishonest people will pretend to misunderstand them. 👌
Oh allow me to throw some out then
are they dishonest or do they just have a sense of humor?
Don't you mean the opposite?
Your 'hot metal' could be anything
Scribble you are embodying the frenchmilitary during operation torch
Literally the spitting image of it
Or it could just be hot metal.
On the current trajectory of meltdowns, Scrib will supernova by 2020
no, the hot metal will meltdown by then....or not...
I assume the hot metal is his standards?
Happy Birthday, EU Death Day
which hes patiently holding as a basis for the conversation?
no thats not right
Try to imagine a single action which you can just do constantly, which REMAINS painful the longer you apply it the exact same way.
everyone should have a hobby.
A poke of red hot metal is the archetype.
Perhaps the conversation as a whole is hot metal?
Trying to have a conversation with you?
I just find it funny and a little sad
Normally you brand things other than yourself though
How any of you missed this, is exactly why Trump thinks so little of CNN.
Stop pretending not to know what I'm talking about.
"Bad hombres" "OH WHAT DOES HE MEAN!??!"
You're doing this.
You can pretend you're not doing it, but you are.
Cut the shit.
Just because something makes sense in your mind doesnt mean other people dont understand it to the same degree or at all