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2018-09-12 18:23:10 UTC

The crash of the dollar isn't a nuclear explosion.

2018-09-12 18:23:21 UTC

I'm supposed to feel silly about my own points, because Rye would like to argue we're fucked either way.

2018-09-12 18:23:26 UTC

>everything is automatic
>no human labor
>socialism will finally work

2018-09-12 18:23:28 UTC

>the dollar will fail
>we should die
???

2018-09-12 18:23:36 UTC

Our dollar is valued based off of labor. That's what was being missed

2018-09-12 18:23:44 UTC

That's what a fiat currency is.

2018-09-12 18:23:44 UTC

Good

2018-09-12 18:23:46 UTC

if a machine replaces a janitor, then that janitor just doe something else that is now in demand.

2018-09-12 18:23:53 UTC

Don't you know money is evil

2018-09-12 18:23:53 UTC

Was*

2018-09-12 18:23:56 UTC

Unless there is no demand for his skills

2018-09-12 18:23:58 UTC

Was valued

2018-09-12 18:24:05 UTC

Because robots do most of the labor

2018-09-12 18:24:05 UTC

```then that janitor just doe something else that is now in demand.``` This is the part that's faulty.

2018-09-12 18:24:12 UTC

This doesn't happen so much anymore.

2018-09-12 18:24:15 UTC

Less and less of it will.

2018-09-12 18:24:23 UTC

West Virginia.

2018-09-12 18:24:27 UTC

Scribble, I'm not going to deny that you aren't doing work. It's more that nobody seems to find your work worth anything.

2018-09-12 18:24:29 UTC

well his skills have to change to meet the demand, not the other way around

2018-09-12 18:24:35 UTC

When the car replaced the horse, the car didn't also replace the DRIVER.

2018-09-12 18:24:39 UTC

This time, the car replaces the driver.

2018-09-12 18:24:41 UTC

now, if that isn't possible, that's a concern.

2018-09-12 18:24:47 UTC

It's vastly different from anything we've dealt with before.

2018-09-12 18:24:50 UTC

however, we are far from that.

2018-09-12 18:24:57 UTC

for most of the population.

2018-09-12 18:25:01 UTC

Not far enough away that we can handwave it

2018-09-12 18:25:07 UTC

(And this isn't literally about self-driving cars, don't be a moron.)

2018-09-12 18:25:17 UTC

sure, probably hundred or more years away

2018-09-12 18:25:25 UTC

... And I quote

2018-09-12 18:25:27 UTC

```(And this isn't literally about self-driving cars, don't be a moron.)```

2018-09-12 18:25:27 UTC

As a driver, self driving cars are a concern.

2018-09-12 18:25:30 UTC

Then now is the time to do something about it

2018-09-12 18:25:46 UTC

Wow I type the shit and... It's like I didn't type the shit.

2018-09-12 18:25:48 UTC

What a wonderland.

2018-09-12 18:25:51 UTC

100 years from now whatever youve dont today will have consequences beyond comprehension

2018-09-12 18:25:59 UTC

It's actually a good example though

2018-09-12 18:26:00 UTC

not for us

2018-09-12 18:26:12 UTC

yes for you

2018-09-12 18:26:14 UTC

markets shift and change. no job stays for infinity without change. People adapt or die.

2018-09-12 18:26:18 UTC

nope, i won't be alive in 100 years

2018-09-12 18:26:31 UTC

What sort of jobs do teenagers use to get into the job market these days? And 5 years from now?

2018-09-12 18:26:40 UTC

They're not just creating a market for automated cars

2018-09-12 18:26:44 UTC

school, oh you said jobs...school.

2018-09-12 18:26:48 UTC

A stone pushed down a hill doesnt lose its momentum if the pusher dies

2018-09-12 18:26:49 UTC

Automated fast food kiosks. That's not YOUR problem exactly, but you live in a society with many people whose problem it IS

2018-09-12 18:27:02 UTC

They're creating automated freight trucks.

2018-09-12 18:27:10 UTC

Automated retail is a joke though

2018-09-12 18:27:13 UTC

And automated taxis.

2018-09-12 18:27:13 UTC

but the pusher isn'tworried about being crushed by it

2018-09-12 18:27:18 UTC

cuz he is dead.

2018-09-12 18:27:20 UTC

Memetech

2018-09-12 18:27:22 UTC

I'm convinced.

2018-09-12 18:27:23 UTC

Beeman, Amazon.

2018-09-12 18:27:33 UTC

It's already here.

2018-09-12 18:27:35 UTC

My mind was one way. Then Beemann spoke, and it was another.

2018-09-12 18:27:35 UTC

The stores you can steal from ez?

2018-09-12 18:27:36 UTC

πŸ‘

2018-09-12 18:27:39 UTC

Automated logistics are the next step in drone tech

2018-09-12 18:27:52 UTC

Beemann, pay the fuck attention. Holy fuckaronie.

2018-09-12 18:27:52 UTC

no, instead he is worried about the guy pointing a gun to his head, telling him to figure out a wya to stop the stone.

2018-09-12 18:28:20 UTC

"If you don't agree you just don't understand"
Deja vu

2018-09-12 18:28:27 UTC

AMAZON.

2018-09-12 18:28:50 UTC

I cant remember where ive heard that beeman

2018-09-12 18:28:53 UTC

but i have heard that before

2018-09-12 18:28:54 UTC

Yes, not everyone can or will order online. Their automated meatspace stores are memetech

2018-09-12 18:29:01 UTC

"Yeah that exists but SO WHAT"

2018-09-12 18:29:10 UTC

Every time you concede that, you've lost more ground than you thought.

2018-09-12 18:29:12 UTC

You idiot.

2018-09-12 18:29:13 UTC

I'm no corporatist, either, BTW.

2018-09-12 18:29:22 UTC

Sure you are.

2018-09-12 18:29:30 UTC

You told me my work wasn't real because I do it for free.

2018-09-12 18:29:32 UTC

πŸ–•

2018-09-12 18:29:42 UTC

Corporatist clod.

2018-09-12 18:29:43 UTC

No, I told you it's not a job

2018-09-12 18:29:45 UTC

"This is a problem"
"I disagree"
"You admit it exists though I win"
???

2018-09-12 18:29:51 UTC

It's a job. It just doesn't pay anything.

2018-09-12 18:29:52 UTC

It's not sustainable

2018-09-12 18:29:53 UTC

πŸ–•

2018-09-12 18:30:00 UTC

Oh, jobs have to be SUSTAINABLE

2018-09-12 18:30:05 UTC

that's not how it works kid

2018-09-12 18:30:08 UTC

Wow. Why doesn't anyone tell Walmart this?

2018-09-12 18:30:14 UTC

if you are not getting food in exchange from your work, and your work is not making food, then it is not a job, it is a hobby

2018-09-12 18:30:15 UTC

They can't just call their positions JOBS!

2018-09-12 18:30:17 UTC

That's absurd!

2018-09-12 18:30:21 UTC

14/h starting wage

2018-09-12 18:30:27 UTC

PRFFFFFF

2018-09-12 18:30:36 UTC

It's work, that nobody finds valuable. So you won't profit from it

2018-09-12 18:30:36 UTC

I live on 7.75

2018-09-12 18:30:43 UTC

From one job anyway

2018-09-12 18:30:43 UTC

Excuse me

2018-09-12 18:30:47 UTC

What was 14/h starting

2018-09-12 18:31:12 UTC

Sorry

2018-09-12 18:31:15 UTC

CVS pharmacy pays decently well for having no requirements aside from the ability to count

2018-09-12 18:31:15 UTC

11

2018-09-12 18:31:25 UTC

That's Costco that went 14 I think

2018-09-12 18:31:32 UTC

Yes, Costco.

2018-09-12 18:31:34 UTC

Oh right walmart just announced it went up to 11 bucks per hour

2018-09-12 18:31:41 UTC

Costco gives a shit, not Walmart.

2018-09-12 18:31:48 UTC

But let's not distract.

2018-09-12 18:31:55 UTC

Your parameter for a job, is to be able to live off it.

2018-09-12 18:32:03 UTC

Not necessarily

2018-09-12 18:32:06 UTC

Do you have any idea how many people are in uniforms, clocking in, to things that are not jobs.

2018-09-12 18:32:18 UTC

By YOUR definition.

2018-09-12 18:32:22 UTC

I mean, if you're building equity in a start-up

2018-09-12 18:32:27 UTC

Apapapapp

2018-09-12 18:32:37 UTC

You're fighting your own point now, knucklehead.

2018-09-12 18:32:40 UTC

Get to it.

2018-09-12 18:32:47 UTC

"Only the the things *I* talk about matter"

2018-09-12 18:32:53 UTC

Beemann, hush.

2018-09-12 18:32:57 UTC

Discipline is occurring.

2018-09-12 18:33:02 UTC

Thats not a job, its an investment you make with your time instead of your money

2018-09-12 18:33:02 UTC

No he's not. He fighting what you attempted ti redefine his point as.

2018-09-12 18:33:08 UTC

Awrini. Hush.

2018-09-12 18:33:08 UTC

And with that we're done.

2018-09-12 18:33:11 UTC

Nice tantrum

2018-09-12 18:33:12 UTC

Discipline is occurring.

2018-09-12 18:33:22 UTC

Yes. Yes it is.

2018-09-12 18:33:24 UTC

Jesus christ scribble

2018-09-12 18:33:24 UTC

Brave Sir Robin ran away.

2018-09-12 18:33:27 UTC

Bravely ran away away.

2018-09-12 18:33:42 UTC

Congratulations on being the first person I ever blocked on Discord.

2018-09-12 18:33:58 UTC

Because I no longer see any value in anything you say

2018-09-12 18:34:02 UTC

You need to take a break scrib

2018-09-12 18:34:14 UTC

that's weird, didn't we use to call an unpaid job slavery?

2018-09-12 18:34:22 UTC

Now its an internship

2018-09-12 18:34:29 UTC

Volunteerism

2018-09-12 18:34:47 UTC

They weren't specifying if they were getting any equity or not

2018-09-12 18:34:49 UTC

"Get a job!!" = "Get paid more!!" when he says it.

2018-09-12 18:34:56 UTC

They said they were working for free

2018-09-12 18:34:56 UTC

an internship isn't a job though, it's a learning experience that you hope will lead to a job....or am i mistaken?

2018-09-12 18:35:02 UTC

There's a difference.

2018-09-12 18:35:10 UTC

But the second thing doesn't have that connotation of "You're lazy" which is what he really wants to say, but that's easier to squash infront of other people

2018-09-12 18:35:27 UTC

They have you doing grunt level work at an internship

2018-09-12 18:35:29 UTC

So, because he has this crowd, he uses "Get a job!" as this little tactic to zone the conversation where he likes it.

2018-09-12 18:35:31 UTC

its basically an unpaid job

2018-09-12 18:35:33 UTC

It's a cowardly move, and not one I'd use.

2018-09-12 18:35:37 UTC

So uh..

2018-09-12 18:35:38 UTC

I was seriously about to concede a point for them

2018-09-12 18:35:49 UTC

well you can work and it doesn't have to be a job.

2018-09-12 18:35:52 UTC

Scrib you cant even recognize when someone was about to walk back a point

2018-09-12 18:35:54 UTC

But then they had to have themselves a tantrum.

2018-09-12 18:36:09 UTC

for example me taking out my trash isn;'t a job, but it is work.

2018-09-12 18:36:13 UTC

if you scroll up and re-read youll find that rye initially assumed you chose to work for free

2018-09-12 18:36:16 UTC

Rye, I'm afraid that's just too silly.

2018-09-12 18:36:20 UTC

You child.

2018-09-12 18:36:30 UTC

Max 2.0 over here?

2018-09-12 18:36:32 UTC

I squashed your points and you ran.

2018-09-12 18:36:35 UTC

as in you willingly chose to forgoe pay

2018-09-12 18:36:40 UTC

Meh, I want to block them. But there is still that off chance they can say something intelligent.

2018-09-12 18:36:47 UTC

Oh just fucking block me, you anus

2018-09-12 18:36:51 UTC

They can't

2018-09-12 18:36:57 UTC

Not without insulting you.

2018-09-12 18:37:06 UTC

Authoritarians for ya

2018-09-12 18:37:14 UTC

Then he realized that you were working as part of a startup company with the usual benefits associated as such

2018-09-12 18:37:22 UTC

Naw. Now I won't solely because you want me to.

2018-09-12 18:37:30 UTC

@RyeNorth are we in <#463068752725016579> , this seems like a repeat from yesterday

2018-09-12 18:37:32 UTC

--lol

2018-09-12 18:37:34 UTC

Which i assume are in the form of stock options or partial ownership or something

2018-09-12 18:37:43 UTC

He thinks I give a shit what he actually does.

2018-09-12 18:37:53 UTC

It's just the "I'm gonna do it!... OH I'LL DO IT!!"

2018-09-12 18:37:58 UTC

DO IT OR DON'T

2018-09-12 18:38:04 UTC

"I'M NOT GONNA DO IT"

2018-09-12 18:38:05 UTC

AIGHT.

2018-09-12 18:38:15 UTC

Scribble breathe

2018-09-12 18:38:22 UTC

Take some time away from discord

2018-09-12 18:38:22 UTC

Or dont

2018-09-12 18:38:24 UTC

You see, I'm too lazy to make the actual effort to block you.

2018-09-12 18:38:40 UTC

took more effort to type that didn't it?

2018-09-12 18:38:42 UTC

This is clearly a personnel issue and it seems to be clouding your ability to be civil

2018-09-12 18:38:53 UTC

It really did.

2018-09-12 18:39:04 UTC

Oh I'm an evil and petulant spite-demon.

2018-09-12 18:39:10 UTC

And I enjoy it.

2018-09-12 18:39:18 UTC

idk, i think typing requires less effort than mouse movement

2018-09-12 18:39:20 UTC

No one is saying that except you

2018-09-12 18:39:27 UTC

No no. I admit it.

2018-09-12 18:39:29 UTC

And embrace it.

2018-09-12 18:39:29 UTC

less mass being moved, hands are heavy

2018-09-12 18:39:35 UTC

Well technically, I'm on mobile

2018-09-12 18:39:43 UTC

so theres no mass being moved at all

2018-09-12 18:39:47 UTC

oh, then no excuse

2018-09-12 18:39:50 UTC

assuming you can figure out how discord mobile works then

2018-09-12 18:39:53 UTC

I excel at it. And my only regret is that I spent so much of my life NOT being this, because I've gotten to the truth of things far faster with it, than without it.

2018-09-12 18:40:21 UTC

Spite is my diesel fuel.

2018-09-12 18:40:29 UTC

Ahh, there it is

2018-09-12 18:40:33 UTC

That you want my company's money for your art

2018-09-12 18:40:34 UTC

Youve probably arrived at what you think is the truth but in reality its just a way for you to keep being mad at the world

2018-09-12 18:40:43 UTC

To further justify your anger

2018-09-12 18:41:00 UTC

perspective. Dunning-kruger effect. ...interesting. Do you really excel at it?

2018-09-12 18:41:00 UTC

"I'm proud to act like a child on the internet"
Ok

2018-09-12 18:41:08 UTC

I'll probably unblock him later.

2018-09-12 18:41:10 UTC

Either that or this is a really dedicated test of the people on this server

2018-09-12 18:41:11 UTC

A child isn't capable of this.

2018-09-12 18:41:17 UTC

Throwing tantrums?

2018-09-12 18:41:22 UTC

A tantrum?

2018-09-12 18:41:29 UTC

They don't have the patience to hold a branding iron in place for as long as I'm willing to.

2018-09-12 18:41:47 UTC

Branding iron?

2018-09-12 18:41:55 UTC

The fuck is that analogy?

2018-09-12 18:42:03 UTC

The one you're stuck with.

2018-09-12 18:42:21 UTC

idk but it's got "anal" in the name so it's probably sinful

2018-09-12 18:42:28 UTC

Does this mean that you're claiming a certain idea as your own or that you think were cattle that you have to controlled?

2018-09-12 18:42:48 UTC

Unless you're talking about slavery of course

2018-09-12 18:42:49 UTC

"And this, is a super tantrum even further beyond super tantrum"

2018-09-12 18:42:49 UTC

It means it's a painful ordeal.

2018-09-12 18:42:55 UTC

Involving hot metal.

2018-09-12 18:43:08 UTC

What the hell is the hot metal in this situation?

2018-09-12 18:43:23 UTC

See, Blackhawk is a better example of a child.

2018-09-12 18:43:27 UTC

hemorrhoid

2018-09-12 18:43:29 UTC

He's the beginning of a Rugrats episode.

2018-09-12 18:43:31 UTC

obviously

2018-09-12 18:43:40 UTC

Mishearing or taking something too literally

2018-09-12 18:43:46 UTC

And going off on a pretend adventure about it.

2018-09-12 18:43:56 UTC

You're throwing out metaphors

2018-09-12 18:44:04 UTC

And then backing out of them

2018-09-12 18:44:06 UTC

or things like metaphors.

2018-09-12 18:44:11 UTC

Yes, and dishonest people will pretend to misunderstand them. πŸ‘Œ

2018-09-12 18:44:20 UTC

Oh allow me to throw some out then

2018-09-12 18:44:43 UTC

are they dishonest or do they just have a sense of humor?

2018-09-12 18:44:52 UTC

Don't you mean the opposite?

2018-09-12 18:44:53 UTC

Your 'hot metal' could be anything

2018-09-12 18:45:01 UTC

Scribble you are embodying the frenchmilitary during operation torch

2018-09-12 18:45:09 UTC

Literally the spitting image of it

2018-09-12 18:45:18 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/463054787336732683/489506811624554497/2229495809cb69056cf6f792801da549.png

2018-09-12 18:45:21 UTC

Or it could just be hot metal.

2018-09-12 18:45:21 UTC

On the current trajectory of meltdowns, Scrib will supernova by 2020

2018-09-12 18:45:30 UTC

xD

2018-09-12 18:45:42 UTC

Likely

2018-09-12 18:45:46 UTC

no, the hot metal will meltdown by then....or not...

2018-09-12 18:45:47 UTC

I assume the hot metal is his standards?

2018-09-12 18:45:55 UTC

Happy Birthday, EU Death Day

2018-09-12 18:46:00 UTC

which hes patiently holding as a basis for the conversation?

2018-09-12 18:46:05 UTC

no thats not right

2018-09-12 18:46:12 UTC

Try to imagine a single action which you can just do constantly, which REMAINS painful the longer you apply it the exact same way.

2018-09-12 18:46:23 UTC

everyone should have a hobby.

2018-09-12 18:46:26 UTC

A poke of red hot metal is the archetype.

2018-09-12 18:46:28 UTC

Perhaps the conversation as a whole is hot metal?

2018-09-12 18:46:44 UTC

Trying to have a conversation with you?

2018-09-12 18:46:44 UTC

I just find it funny and a little sad

2018-09-12 18:46:49 UTC

Tbh

2018-09-12 18:46:51 UTC

Normally you brand things other than yourself though

2018-09-12 18:46:54 UTC

How any of you missed this, is exactly why Trump thinks so little of CNN.

2018-09-12 18:47:00 UTC

Stop pretending not to know what I'm talking about.

2018-09-12 18:47:15 UTC

It's **embarrassing.**

2018-09-12 18:47:27 UTC

"Bad hombres" "OH WHAT DOES HE MEAN!??!"

2018-09-12 18:47:29 UTC

You're doing this.

2018-09-12 18:47:36 UTC

You can pretend you're not doing it, but you are.

2018-09-12 18:47:39 UTC

Cut the shit.

2018-09-12 18:47:39 UTC

Just because something makes sense in your mind doesnt mean other people dont understand it to the same degree or at all

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