i heard about B and the beta but never had an urge to try and watch

Absolutely worth it.

I'm very much aligned with Matt but sometimes...Blonde has a point

I actually do like when they test each other's position on something

I like watching people in general test ideas.

One of the reasons I'm rooting for a Donut Operator - Tim Pool crossover.

Oh good lord Dankula's an asshole!

Dankula is hilarious

Please be patient, he has autism

Jeremy's on the phone with the police, and Dankula says as loud as he can, 'Jeremy can you pass the cocaine, please?'

Hahahaha

Lol

Wikipedia describes UKIP as "having an ideological heritage stemming from the right-wing of the Conservative Party". That means it's somewhat illiberal on social issues. UKIP are also populist in their rhetoric, claiming to represent "the people" and dismissing dissidents as de facto "enemies of the people". They're not very accepting of pluralism and have a slightly nasty, authoritarian streak in them.

I don't think they're compatible with Sargon's Liberalist principles but perhaps he aims to use his influence to liberalize UKIP.

@RyeNorth yeah bearing and dankula are trolling the fuck out of him

Please tell me why I'm wrong on UKIP, anyone who disagrees 👍

Only my subjective opinion.

I mean, I would consider Wikipedia to be a poor source on contemporary issues, given their often blatant bias. That said, Sargon has said that he basically sees it as an opportunity to fight for specific issues

Same way Dankula does

lmao the coke shit

they trolled jeremy good

Yeah, so what they're doing is entryism in a way, which is normally frowned upon but I see it as a positive in this case. UKIP was on the decline, quite markedly so, and yet I trust Sargon and co. to put it on a much better path now.

UKIP's direction was up for grabs anyway since Brexit, the longstanding single driver, had been achieved.

Isnt farange coming back?

Wouldnt that be a huge plus?

A political party is the product of it's members.

first point.

No idea what his qualities are

Farage has quite harshly criticised the current UKIP leader publically so I think it's unlikely for now.

Whats the currentvleader?

Second point, that is a very poorly cited Wikipedia article.

I guess probably why you are seeing the intellectual dark trio join in

He's called Gerard Batten. Farage spoke out against Batten criticising Islam.

He did say subjective. Wikipedias camped on by people with political agendas

Why shouldn't it be criticized?

Better be some damn horrible. Criticism

Farage never came of as a leftist to me

Why shouldn't Christianity be criticized?

Why shouldn't Atheism be criticized?

Nothing is sacred

Everything is mocked

even if it, by definition, is.

“I think this gets to the heart of not just the positioning of a political party, but of judgment too. And judgment really, really matters. Tommy Robinson is seen to be a hero by many. But actually, what the bloody hell was he doing outside the court?”

“These are the people we spent years trying to keep out of the party, and so this isn’t making a lot of people happy. It’s really upset what you might call the more old-school party members.”

- Farage.

Is it because he hates division? Tommys good, but his actions divided the nation on one issue. Is he expecting everyone to get along?

So he's annoyed at Batten's association with Tommy Robinson too. All considered, he's unlikely to return to the party with Batten there.

It's a guilt by association fallacy that it creates.

Tim is a Lefty, let's not forget.

Does that mean he's associated with the farthest left groups?

Cant do nothing if he does not get himself elected head again

Tim interviews some of the most despicable people out there.

Does not make him a supporter

I recall that racist nyt called tim out. Saw that on kia

The trick about the UKIP party, as I understand it, is that it's based around a principle. Basically, around a specific policy. It's not based around a full platform.

I agree btw. I was just quoting Farage, I think he's wrong though.

the problem i have with sargon is he's a fucking follower not a leader

In regards to Ukip?

Sargon isnt one to lead something, but he can help garner a crowd

i know he has a family and shit but why did he have to wait for dankula to say hes joining ukip

Or pjw?

he was all like when tommy got arrested and the media blackout

now is not the time

etdc etc

That doesn't bother me one bit.

i still like sargon but he waited for someone else

Also, wouldn't UKIP be in opposition to Tommy Robinson?

Is it possible the way they joined UKIP was a pre-meditated stunt rather than the spontaneous action it was presented to be? Perhaps I'm being cynical.

Are they pro free speech?

Pretty sure it's in their bylaws that no members, current or former, of the EDL are allowed.

@RyeNorth not anymore they made an announcement for tommy when he got released

Well, I am being cynical.

if you ask me , I feel dankula is pretty smart

he's just lazy

like i think he should run for PM

and sargon could be his steve bannon

He's more clever than he acts

@Real Spicy 100 agree

Ping 😔

😁 Sargon as Bannon!

dankula seems like he's really cunning and smart

@Sarah Jessica Farter sargon matches the weight class

Sargon plotting away in the background.

lmao

Aside from the inherent problems with the organization mentioned, it'd be like joining the ADL while standing up for a hypothetical Ben Shapiro being arrested.

Bad example, actually, but kind of not...?

there is one more thing that concerns me is that they joined to late .... like if they joined earlier we'd see someone from there be a pm but hey idk

ADL dont you mean the EDL ?

No, Anti Defamation League

Unless there's another ADL

Naah, I meant the Anti Defamation league.

Speaking of other orgs actually, when are you guys getting a replacement ACLU. You know, now that the current one gives 0 fucks about civil liberties

Unions suck.

They're too damn prone to going off on their own and doing shit for their own explicit benefit.

>we have to defend the KKK on principle
>we'd rather not defend this gay Jewish troll
🤔

You couldn't ever get an UKIP PM. In their history they've only ever had one elected member of parliament. Farage was never elected once despite multiple attempts. UKIP at their strongest are about trying to infuence the big parties by threatening to steal some voters from them with certain policies. The big parties then often look to adopt those policies to try and shore up the voters being tempted by UKIP.

Parties change.

So UKIP's role is to try and maneuvre the big parties in certain directions.

It wasn't always Republican and Democrat.

Reminder that nobody fucking likes May or Corbyn

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^ ^ ^

The Brexit referendum was only called by the Conservatives due to UKIP pressure, for example.