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2018-08-27 19:01:01 UTC

so far I've only seen this one dude being posted

2018-08-27 19:02:24 UTC

There's this one too. But thats all I've seen.

2018-08-27 19:04:01 UTC

this guy ^^^

2018-08-27 19:05:49 UTC

Anyone got that hot take Tariq had about the shooting? If so pls dm it to me

2018-08-27 19:06:34 UTC

you know they are after whites because they can get away with it?

2018-08-27 19:07:03 UTC

I think Germany has just been paying attention to South Africa.

2018-08-27 19:07:14 UTC

finally found more than a few seconds clips

2018-08-27 19:07:25 UTC

"Right. And we're not gonna be next?"

2018-08-27 19:07:31 UTC

"Pull the other one."

2018-08-27 19:07:32 UTC

a 20+ minute periscope so if anyone good in German wants to watch

2018-08-27 19:07:36 UTC

I really don't like this outcome.

2018-08-27 19:07:43 UTC

But I understand it completely.

2018-08-27 19:07:54 UTC

if you have twitter post it in a twit so we can preview it here

2018-08-27 19:08:13 UTC

wont work

2018-08-27 19:08:17 UTC

weird

2018-08-27 19:09:15 UTC

11k viewers

2018-08-27 19:09:20 UTC

thats a success in periscope

2018-08-27 19:17:31 UTC

live I guess

2018-08-27 19:17:45 UTC

Is it the purge yet?

2018-08-27 19:17:48 UTC

In germany

2018-08-27 19:17:49 UTC

nah

2018-08-27 19:19:43 UTC

Yโ€™all are gonna have to catch me up on the German stuff when I get home

2018-08-27 19:20:11 UTC

The soft spoken crackdown on criticism and protest becomes a lot more understandable (though no more agreeable) when you think about the ultimate goal of these governments

2018-08-27 19:20:46 UTC

Whether it's attempting to shut down protests over larger political issues, or smaller stuff like bullying Tommy or telling Sargon he'll be arrested for asking questions

2018-08-27 19:21:25 UTC

Western governments have ceased to be about promotion and protection of Western ideals, and have instead been about keeping the boat as still as possible

2018-08-27 19:21:29 UTC

Yea Sargon has to be careful about what he says

2018-08-27 19:21:47 UTC

```telling Sargon he'll be arrested for asking questions```
Whoooaaaaa

2018-08-27 19:21:48 UTC

What happened?

2018-08-27 19:21:56 UTC

I'm completely out of the loop evidently. What?

2018-08-27 19:22:00 UTC

Trump march, he was interviewing protestors

2018-08-27 19:22:03 UTC

Older thing

2018-08-27 19:22:15 UTC

Oh that vid

2018-08-27 19:22:18 UTC

... Oh. Okay.

2018-08-27 19:22:38 UTC

But then we also had a similar thing with Lauren in Aus

2018-08-27 19:22:49 UTC

Because these governments no longer exist to protect rights

2018-08-27 19:22:50 UTC

They wouldnโ€™t let him into the counter protestor(?) lines

2018-08-27 19:23:13 UTC

He couldn't go to the protector side because they didn't want things getting violent

2018-08-27 19:23:16 UTC

Not surprising..there is no 'western' ideal of free speech.

2018-08-27 19:23:32 UTC

You can't talk to violent bigots because those violent bigots could break the law

2018-08-27 19:23:35 UTC

Free speech is murican thing and that's it

2018-08-27 19:23:44 UTC

No it isnt

2018-08-27 19:23:50 UTC

It was just codified in the 'States

2018-08-27 19:23:59 UTC

Which was the smart thing to do

2018-08-27 19:24:08 UTC

But free speech as an ideal predates America

2018-08-27 19:24:11 UTC

so dennis, tell me, what is the western ideal of free speech?

2018-08-27 19:24:20 UTC

๐Ÿ˜›

2018-08-27 19:24:55 UTC

I don't think the US is immune to this either

2018-08-27 19:24:59 UTC

Fwiw

2018-08-27 19:28:31 UTC

I'm sorry but it's not just about whether it is codified as in the US. There was never free speech in most of the Europe until very recently and that's only a pseudo free speech. Ergo I wouldn't call it western tradition.

2018-08-27 19:29:01 UTC

or ideal or what you said..

2018-08-27 19:29:04 UTC

This guy from a long time ago..

2018-08-27 19:29:13 UTC

Has predicted the escalation of mass killers.

2018-08-27 19:29:17 UTC

And he places the blame on media.

2018-08-27 19:29:34 UTC

The philosophy of the founding fathers was born of a prior European tradition my dude

2018-08-27 19:29:48 UTC

As long as the media does these things, they glorify mass killers and create more copy cats.

2018-08-27 19:30:07 UTC

The media sensationalism of mass murder encourages more incidents

2018-08-27 19:30:27 UTC

Exactly.

2018-08-27 19:30:36 UTC

Also English Common Law is what the founding fathers based the constitution on

2018-08-27 19:30:40 UTC

Born of but it is not European tradition arguably. When your freedom land was established most of the Europe was still under rule of monarchy. Wanna tell me they had free speech ?

2018-08-27 19:30:48 UTC

They just put into documentation

2018-08-27 19:31:16 UTC

The media is to blame on this... as long as they do the things this guy says, they pretty much have no right to cry those crocodile tears.

2018-08-27 19:31:19 UTC

>philosophy has to be politically enacted across a continent or it doesn't count

2018-08-27 19:31:56 UTC

Media is unintentionally creating copy cat killers just for ratings.

2018-08-27 19:31:58 UTC

By that logic national socialism is western ideal.

2018-08-27 19:32:11 UTC

No, it's a historical German ideal

2018-08-27 19:32:18 UTC

It pertains specifically to the German people

2018-08-27 19:32:30 UTC

Going to go play Leaque of Legends.

2018-08-27 19:32:36 UTC

I just started playing, very easy to get into.

2018-08-27 19:32:39 UTC

^_^

2018-08-27 19:32:47 UTC

You just proved my point

2018-08-27 19:33:08 UTC

Free speech specifically pertains to America on a definition-based level?

2018-08-27 19:33:13 UTC

I don't think that's the case

2018-08-27 19:33:39 UTC

Free speech comes from England

2018-08-27 19:33:54 UTC

Free speech as an ideal descends all the way back to the Athenians.

2018-08-27 19:34:02 UTC

They had multiple concepts of it too.

2018-08-27 19:34:17 UTC

The idea of freedom of speech, the press and assembly is an English ideal.

2018-08-27 19:34:27 UTC

It may come from England, but England has abandon free speech with their censorship and hate speech laws.

2018-08-27 19:34:41 UTC

The modern version in the US is based on the English customs. But the philosophy dates back to England.

2018-08-27 19:34:41 UTC

That's moot re: the topic

2018-08-27 19:34:45 UTC

*Greece.

2018-08-27 19:34:57 UTC

They even had the "freedom from consequences" fight back then too.

2018-08-27 19:34:57 UTC

that's not the point. At least we had the right idea. This is a blip in history, it will be fixxed.

2018-08-27 19:35:25 UTC

Yeah, that's my fear too.

2018-08-27 19:35:29 UTC

And yes, Europe has had a long history with freedom of speech as an ideal, which was my core point. Codifying it helps but it doesn't solve the problem

2018-08-27 19:35:43 UTC

Free speech is anything that isn't a CALL TO ACTION

2018-08-27 19:35:51 UTC

Like shouting fire in a crowded theater is a call to action.

2018-08-27 19:36:02 UTC

Fire in a crowded theatre is protected

2018-08-27 19:36:05 UTC

Under the constitution

2018-08-27 19:36:07 UTC

The action is "holy shit, a fire. Run swiftly away!!"

2018-08-27 19:36:37 UTC

That analogy and ruling got btfo'd like 40 years later because it was utterly ridiculous

2018-08-27 19:36:38 UTC

Which can.. trample people.

2018-08-27 19:36:42 UTC

Yeah I know.

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